Kim Jong-un bans hotdogs for North Koreans, cooking them an act of treason
Kim Jong-un bans hotdogs for North Koreans, cooking them an act of treason
It's one of the most popular items around the world. Now it's banned in North Korea.
Not the hotdogs!
For the record:
- The New Zealand Herald is a credible source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-zealand-herald/
- Radio Free Asia is a credible source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/radio-free-asia/
- Kim Jong Un is a brutal dictator who starves the people of North Korea, and news stories that document his atrocities aren't racist.
- If you want to come to this sub to argue in favor of fascist regimes, don't be surprised when your account is banned and your content is removed.
- The story stays. It's from a legitimate news source, and it's a very bizarre, Onion-y headline.
For the record, "arguing in favor of a fascist regime" also appears to mean questioning if this article is actually true. Admittedly, they didn't do the best job. This "brigade" from .ml was an astounding two people, plus one who responded to me with a snarky comment.
Given the originating article was actually from The Sun, a right-wing tabloid, I'm a little skeptical. The Radio Free Asia bit was in reference to a November 2024 article about the crackdown on the other mentioned dishes. Not coming from a tabloid, I'm much less skeptical there.
Also for the record, I commented once in a .ml "Fuck Cars" post. Looking forward to seeing if browsing by all makes me a pro-fascist North Korean supporter.
Questioning the story is fine. Brigading isn't, and failing to actually attack the credibility of the reporting isn't.
Yes, the origin of the story is the Sun, but until there's a reason not to trust it, the fact-checking by other, less tabloid-y outlets that have also carried the story seems trustworthy.
The story is also well within the norm for the behavior of the North Korean dictatorship.
Do you have an actual reason to suspect the story is false? Post it here. I won't delete it if you credibly back your claims up.
Just a heads up, I submitted this in World News and it got taken down because of "rule 3" even though it's as you say. It also fairly early on got brigaded by "counterpropaganda" from hexbear, and the alts coming out of the woodworks, ignoring any other community content, just to defend King Jong-un and North Korea's character was ridiculous.
I guess lemmy.ml and lemmy.world have more in common than I thought.I got in contact with one of the mods and they confirmed it was wrongly removed and restored it, so it was definitely not a unanimous decision - I take my comment back.Budae-jjigae is literally made from hot dog sausages, and the ban is tied to maintaining the cultural divide between North and South Korea. This news shouldn't be making as much noise as it is, if it wasn't because of weighted agendas seriously getting concerned. I'm sure you are probably getting a lot of spam to coerce you.
"No you guys, North Korea is actually a utopia!" - Hexbear probably
Ah yes and I'm sure this "media bias fact check" is based on researches by legitimate scientific institutes with credentials in political science, philology and the media landscape /s
Just kidding it's a dude in his basement lmao
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-van-zandt-09421b169/
The guy is an attorney and have zero expertise whatsoever to evaluate political biases. Science matter, idiot.
According to reports,...
It is claimed that....
According to Radio Free Asia (RFA)....
According to RFA,....
Yeah this is fake.
The hotdog looked at you?
How so? Genuinely asking. Is that not a credible source?
It's a piece of media that's critical of a fascist regime, and the person who says it's fake is a .ml
if they ever answer, it'll be dismissive about how all western media is biased against china/nk/Russia. That's as close to an explanation of "why it's fake" as you'll get.
You should always be critical of any media that doesn't have a concrete source though. I don't personally know anything about radiofreeasia, so fuck if I know how reliable they are to begin with.
It is absolutely a credible source.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/radio-free-asia/
I'm not sure what Porcupine is going on about.
Based on what? That you don't know it?
https://www.rfa.org/english/I don't see anything particularly wrong with it on the surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia
The service, which provides editorially independent reporting,[6][7][8][9][10][11] has the stated mission of providing accurate and uncensored reporting to countries in Asia that have poor media environments and limited protections for speech and press freedom.
6 references to the Independent reporting part! Seems pretty OK to me.
If the best RFA-apologia source you can come up with says they "published anti-vaccine misinformation", they're not credible.
6 references to the Independent reporting part! Seems pretty OK to me.
Did you just count the number of sources and call it a day?
- The DW source (which @Lumidaub@feddit.org casts doubt on) says "RFA is funded by the US Congress but with a mandate of editorial independence."
- The Washington Post source fails verification – it does not mention anything about editorial independence
- The Atlantic source just says "The Daily was not the only organization targeted. Radio stations broadcasting Radio Free Asia and Voice of America, U.S.-backed services that provide independent news to many rural Cambodians, were shuttered, as was the U.S.-funded National Democratic Institute."
- I can't get the immigration journal article
- The Hill source mentions that Joe Biden (the President of the USA) had the authority to dismiss the CEO, i.e. they are not independent of the state
- the Vox source is the clearest: it says that the reason these "editorial independence" claims are popping up (in spite of politicians firing CEOs) is coz of the International Broadcasting Act of 1994 PDF, which I suppose refers to Section 305(18)(d)
Anyway RFA have a long-standing awful reputation, CIA links, and the hot-dog story is implausible on the face of it. You're making me do a lot of work to debunk fairly obvious misinformation.
No.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/radio-free-asia/
I don't know why you're trying to claim this is fake, Radio Free Asia is a credible source, and North Korea is ruled by a brutal and insane dictator. This is a credible news story, and it stays.
Mediabiasfactcheck is not exactly unbiased themselves.
They're self-contradictory in their own assessment here. They find no failed fact checks, yet their accuracy is rated as "High", not "Very high". No motivation is provided for this. They also state RFA lists sources, but most articles on North-Korea especially only cite "Residents in the country", thus not providing anything verifiable. It's also why most major news outlets don't use RFA as a source, their stories are not verifiable. It's mostly sensationalist tabloids like The Sun in this instance that uses them as a source.
Additionally, Wikipedia does mention some failed fact checks, especially concerning anti-vaccine misinformation. See the article here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia under Controversies.
RFA is not a particularly credible source for this reason. It's basically impossible to prove many of their claims, so scepticism is warranted.
This of course doesn't detract from the fact that NK is ruled by a nutcase dictator who brutally oppresses his people. But we don't have to necessarily trust a story with as much credibility as some fanfiction here. This story could well be true, but I don't want to assume that this is fact based on the nonexistent sourcing.
Source on the claims about Kim's psychiatric health? Or are you being ableist?
So were the hot dogs banned, or Un-banned?
Goddammit that's too funny.
Kim Jong un-bans hotdogs. 😜
Misread it as "Kim Jong un-bans hotdogs" at first and was confused why cooking them was still an act of treason.
Fake.
Other forms of cooking are fine, but boiling hot dogs should be illegal everywhere (grilling is where it’s at, baby). Regardless, calling it treason is a bit much, and pretty weird.
There is something magical about an all-beef dog boiled in Colorado Kool-Aid.
Never heard of Colorado Kool-Aid before. Just looked it up, and it gets a pass. I’d definitely try one of those!
Ugh, you’re better off putting it in the microwave
"Mmmmmm . . . treason dogs."
With a side of freedom fries.
Hotdogs/sausages are the perfect food. They are intestine shaped and that’s smart design. Peak art
Reddit also censoring people who question the RFA story: https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/worldnews/comments/1hvbo9i/kim_jongun_bans_hotdogs_for_north_koreans_cooking/m5s1grw
But veggie dogs are okay, right
Okay, time to go. If @kescusay@lemmy.world is not even willing to CONSIDER that RFA might be bullshiting on this picked-up Article from The Sun, then I don't want to spend my time here.
This is the same shit as with Tankies, just in blue.
lol. like they could afford hot dogs. only one person over there has ever scarfed down hot dogs.
Don't sneer at hungry people you absolute Westoid.
It's not even true: North Korea is far wealthier than Haïti (where hotdogs are eaten all the time)
Damn straight. Im the ABSOLUTE! The westoid of westoids. All the westoids wanna be me!
the fuck is a westiod dufus?
I looked at the GDP, both nominal and per capita, for both countries. North Korea's is nowhere near Haiti's. North Korea is not wealthier.
This is kind of amazing, I was actually, genuinely interested in what the people calling the story "fake" had to say because it's obviously pretty out there and I have no prior knowledge about the source. Everything I got in response to asking for more information was utter dumbfuckery. Also straight up lies about what I said. Good job with the propaganda, Genossen.
Everybody on the leftist web has prior knowledge of Radio Free Asia.
Even just look at Wikipedia: "Based on Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty....with the stated aim of "promoting democratic values and human rights", and countering the narratives and monopoly on information distribution of the Chinese Communist Party, as well as providing media reports about the North Korean government.... Radio Free Europe was a Cold War anti-communist outlet, "Founded during the Cold War, RFE began in 1949 targeting Soviet satellite states,[8] while RL, established in 1951, focused on the Soviet Union. Initially funded covertly by the CIA..."... Both are owned by "USAGM... considered an arm of U.S. diplomacy."
You can basically say wharever you want about North Korea and nobody is going to fact check you (hard to do by the way). And every year or so they are some news about something outrageously stupid, like mandating haircuts with dead penalty.
Not that it matters since they don't have any food let alone hot dogs
