Also might be the most unethical coffee in the world too.
I read once that a major reason the coffee is supposed to be good, is that the animals (in the wild) tend to seek out the ripest, healthiest coffee beans to eat. They're abundant (prior to human intervention), so why settle for less?
But then we cage them and force-feed them whatever, so they're just medium (or low) quality beans to start with. So even if you look past the cruelty, it's not even the quality of coffee the reputation suggests.
Iirc correctly the monkey cats ( or however they are called ) actually just prefer a specific coffee plant that is more rarely used as the ones used for the vast amount of coffee in the world ( e.g. robusta or arabica). However, if the beans of this variation are used directly, it tastes exactly the same. There is a scientific paper about this. Long story short: people are drinking shat out coffee for no good reason. What is even worse, it is tried to hold these monkey cats in cages to produce more of this coffee. Again for no good reason. But people fall for the marketing pr gang that the coffee is handpicked by those animals, digested and shat out and they would not go for "yeah we need just to use another plant" because it wouldn't be so exklusive anymore...
What do you mean? Force feeding caged animals to shit coffee beans isn't ethical?
Vast majority of it is just cheap coffee labeled to be this and marked up for tourists / gift market. Have tried it, just tastes like cheap old coffee. It's not something genuinely sought after by coniseurs.
I ate at a restaurant that sold this stuff. It was $85 a cup. I can appreciate a good cup of coffee but never at that price (monetary or cruelty).
I saw it in a torréfacteur in Paris, it was about €70 for 250g of beans
They must've taken you for a right mug 😂
Yep! I first learned about it from The Bucket List...
Kopi luwak, also known as civet coffee, is a coffee that consists of partially digested coffee cherries, which have been eaten and defecated by the Asian palm civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus). The cherries are fermented as they pass through a civet's intestines, and after being defecated with other fecal matter, they are collected.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak
It tastes smoother and is good. Their digestion of the beans strips the outer layer of the bean and changes the flavor.
Is it better? Not really. I have had it in Bali from a farm and it was very smooth. Turkish coffee is better.
It's also animal cruelty.
It’s no more than animal cruelty, then any type of livestock farming. What the fuck do you think you get your bacon from? You think the pigs are happy in overcrowded, dirty farms? Do you think the chickens that lay eggs are happy to be confined inside a tiny cage covered in their own shit? You think cows like to eat feed corn day in and day out shoved full of antibiotics? Do you think any of the animals that we use for any type of products are happy to be slaughtered after being fattened up?
If you’re gonna argue animal cruelty, you better stop eating all animal products, and become a vegan. Better yet why don’t you farm your own food and don’t buy anything that comes from modern agriculture because all that shit is covered in pesticides, GMO’s, and all kinds of other nasty shit.
Two droppings, one cup.
Its a legit thing
You can make some for yourself.
Step 1) Eat a bunch of coffee beans
Step 2)
You can make some for yourself.
Number 1) Eat a bunch of coffee beans
Number 2)
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Certified coffee snob here: We laugh at the people who think Kopi luwak is good.
I'd imagine that's mutual
Nah, whoever drinks that shit (no pun intended, really) has lost the right to laugh at anyone.
That's some major shit 😐
Honestly, I wish I could lay a snake half the size of my body just to say I did
The coffee was surprisingly pretty good
Granted I don’t exactly run in the conspicuous consumption crowd, so maybe I’m out of the loop. Cope Luwak was a thing I heard about in the late 90s but have never seen in the world, ever.
I suppose this is one of those products that has a reputation for being expensive so rich people buy it to flex and that creates some demand. Like gold pizzas or whatever other dumb shit gaudy nouveau riche assholes are doing to get attention.
I’m sure there are places in the world where you can forage the shits and have something unique, but I highly doubt that what makes its way to fintech bros in manhattan has any real value at all. Just a cruel gimmick.
Stephen Fry gave some to Prince Charles iirc
Edit. It was weasel vomit according to this
https://www.tumblr.com/whitepajamas/1491643197/alan-davies-is-it-true-that-you-gave-prince
Apparently I’m behind on the latest in coffee trends
I wish it was the latest. This animal abuse has been going on a long time.
It's actually pretty old, now. I just can't believe people are willing to drink the stuff, better or not.
Curiosity
At least by a few decades
Sometimes I question myself if we are really intelligent beings. Who the hell thought of making coffee out of a monkey's butt? or whatever that is.
My guess is, since they eat coffee cherries, some farmer had his harvest ruined and washed the seeds out from the shit in desperation, just to get told it's the best coffee somebody has ever had.
Lol that would be dumb af, of course it's a cat.
the story I heard (from an Indonesian dude) was the colonial plantations didn't allow locals to drink coffee. They noticed the civits only ate the ripest coffee berries... bla bla bla, shit coffee was the only choice and it was really good?
The "who made beverage X from Y's excrement" has been a question for ages.
to be fair, koalas do it so... maybe the great ancestor we lucked out with were avid koala watchers.
Same energy as the people who invented birds nest soup
How can a creature have shit like that?
I don't know the history of the photo, but I know some Kopi Luwak 'producers' force feed the civets coffee cherries to maximise production. So I can't say this is a natural shit for a civet, because it could be human induced.
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite comment on lemmy.
"Hey! Everyone! This website discriminates against the poor!"
Eat a bunch of whole coffee beans and you probably will too.
It actually comes out more like coffee grounds
Man looking at that shit I bet it feels amazing after pinching that out
I have a bag of this stuff but I hate coffee and poo so I haven't tried it.
I always thought coffee already tasted like shit, so....
Maybe the shit cancels out the coffee flavor
How "Pearson's Original Salted Nut Rolls" are made.
I've had this coffee before. Doesn't taste any different than regular coffee
Ah yes, the cat-poop-cino
I've had it. It's pretty tasty.
Poopi luwak
Disgusting! Hipsters and other coffee snobs will really do anything just to feel more distinct, lmao.
Edit: Comment confirmed by down-voting hipsters ...
"Hipsters and coffee snobs" aren't the target audience and the vast majority have probably never tried it. It's a flex for rich people that have more money than sense.
It's not that expensive for one time test thing. I doubt anyone is drinking it as their daily drip coffee or something lol
Tried it in Bali and it wasn't that expensive at all for a cup. It tasted weird though, could tell it had the taste of something that had been digested. 4/10 if I'm being generous, the teas there were great though.
