Senate Republicans block Ukraine, Israel funding bill
Senate Republicans block Ukraine, Israel funding bill
Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a bill to provide aid to Ukraine and Israel over a lack of border provisions in the measure. Senators voted 49-51, failing to reach the 60-vote threshold tha…
We need to get rid of riders... Someone propose a "one bill-one item" rule already, and stick that motherfucker on every single fucking bill as a rider until something comes along that'll bait em all into that shit.
Obama did something like that. It didn't work. All the little add ons are so each politician in a contested district can get something for their voters to justify all the other parts of the bill their voters don't like. Without that nothing ever gets passed.
"We tried" and then go on recess for 6 weeks
What if I told you that slime ball Matt Gaetz has already proposed this issue multiple times. Not sure how I feel about that but it’s the only sane thing I’ve heard from his side.
Because it would cause gridlock. That's why Gaetz wants to do it. There are too many things to pass one at a time. There are not enough affirmative votes on most single issues to pass anything. You need the little extra things to pull in the politicians who would otherwise not vote for that one thing because their local base doesn't want it.
Don't know a single thing about Matt Gaetz, and Google suggests I really wouldn't care to :)
I'm a moderate, a (GASP!) Jordan Peterson type. Gaetz sounds partisan enough that I wouldn't listen to him for more than about 15 seconds, but I gotta qualify that remark by saying I'm not really part of his opposition either, because not choosing a side is basically not a thing anymore and I do it anyway ;)
And like that you've broken the biggest tool legislators have to negotiate marginal votes into their camp
So, you propose single issue voting in congress?
I'd like to propose a clean energy spending rider to your proposal of single issue voting.
The Putin Caucus at work. (Trump is Putin's lapdog. Tell your friends.)
So I guess Moscow Mitch is back.
He glitched enough times it forced a rebuild of his OS back to Komrad v1.01
Republicans/Conservatives are Russian assets.
As they are paid to do.
Almost as if they where working for china and Russia trying to discredit the us internally but they are or too stupid or too greedy to notice.
Or both
Trump moved billions for the useless border wall from military funding without consulting the House.
Just do that and write an IOU to the pentagon. Although I'm sure they won't mind. The more Russians Ukraine blows up are less our troops will have to fight in the future.
I am happy to say that Cornyn (R-TX) hates Israel.
Texas passed a law in 2022 preventing Texas from doing business with companies that "boycott Israel" can we somehow get rid of Cruz and Cornyn for this? https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/GV/htm/GV.2271.htm
They only are giving a damn about that worthless wall.
They are wall builders, never bridge builders.
Honestly best thing Republicans have done in the past 20 years. Don't get me wrong Ukraine needs US support, but this is the fault of the dinosaurs that decided Ukrainian and aid support for Israel's genocide are synonymous.
Ukraine support was already under fire, they tried to push it through by attaching it to the Israel package.
Well I guess in a way they're standing up for their principles? Anyway I just wish Ukrainian aid could just pass without support for Israel's genocide.
This has nothing to do with Israel. Republicans would nuke Gaza if they could.
This is them holding up broadly popular legislation in order to make some stupid demands on "border security" so they can tell their constituents that they basically built a wall.
Yeah I know. I'm just happy they're fucking themselves over at the expense of Israel's genocide, though it's sad that Ukraine got caught up in the mess.
Anyone blocking fee bombs for israel is based. Good jobs repubs.
Boy Libs sure do love themselves a war. Especially when it's halfway across the world and they don't have to send their own children to die.
Republicans, conservatives, right wing. Those are the stain on our world. Get it right you stupid fuck.
Sure, just seems like libs get pretty excited whenever they can throw support behind a "just" war. Don't get too comfortable calling them "the good guys".
Repubs sure do love a russian world order.
Correct me of I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the president has the authority to send troops to engage an enemy for up to like 60 days before needing to have anything cleared by congress.
If this is how Republicans want to play, we could still still support Ukraine by intervening directly.
Oh buddy, don't wish for that.
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What I wish for is that Putin trips over a dildo and suffers a spinal injury that triggers every single one of his pain receptors so that all he can experience from here on out is pure agony, effectively removing him from power and marking an end to his stupid fucking war.
...but short of that, I'll settle for another option that marks an end to his stupid fucking war; and while we can hope for the former, we can actually accomplish the latter.
The LAST thing we want is to be directly involved.
The last thing we want to do is show Russia that the threat of escalation is their free pass to wipe other countries off the map. The best thing we can do in terms of impact on the US, is to arm Ukraine so that they're capable of winning this stupid fucking war on their own; but republicans are blocking that, because they don't give a fuck about human life.
I don't see any good options on the table... so, what's the least-bad option?
...you want dead or wounded American soldiers? Disgusting.
Edit: just to clarify, my point is that we're all human, no matter the occupation. You shouldn't think of sending troops like moving a chess piece. That's someone's family member.
Speaking as a vet - I understand the implication. I also understand the implication of just letting Russia decimate other countries without consequence. Families are being murdered on your chess board right now whether or not they fly our colors. Russia is currently in a severely weakened state, so a full military response from the US and hopefully our allies would end the war practically over night.
The best option is for Russia to pull out on its own - that's not going to happen. The second best option is for Ukraine to defend itself in a manner effective enough to force Russia to withdraw - republicans are blocking that. The third best option is for the rest of the world to step in to swiftly end wars of aggression.
The worst thing we can do is show Russia that the threat of escalation is enough to give them a free pass to just wipe other countries off the map.
I mean, if it's between people who didn't volunteer and people who did, I would have to say it should be the volunteers (US military)
This isn't /r/NCD
Now that is certainly a take
Good, Both Ukraine and Israel need to fight their own wars.
Every dollar spent on Ukraine is more Russian blood in the ground. And we get to feed the MIC.
Good ROI if you ask me.
Plus, every dollar spent on Ukraine buys a lessened chance of other nuclear powers trying to invade their neighbors willy-nilly. If Russia is allowed to just invade whomever they want with minimal pushback from the world, that just emboldens more wannabe Putins to start wars of aggression or worse, build up nuclear arsenals.
Yes, every country is an island, just like every man.
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How do you not see that Ukraine is fighting not only for itself, but for the entire Western order?
Ok then. When Ukraine falls, we'll send in US troops to stop Russia. I take it you'll be first in line to join them.