It is now verboten to mention “Chinese New Year” in the Biden regime

It doesn’t really matter. Focus on eating dumplings instead comrades. Love you all x

a Chinese person

On the one hand it doesn't matter. On the other hand, this is the exact kind of rhetorical salami slicing that western propaganda engages in against it's enemies. I think in the context of rising Sinophobia and Asian people getting hatecrimed on the streets, it is good and useful to push back against this sort of thing.

Idk about you but I've seen stores and restaurants near me brand clearly Chinese things as "Hong Kongnese" or "Taiwanese", presumably to avoid hate crimes and backlash. One particularly egregious example is that news headline that framed 冰糖葫芦 as a Korean snack:

Edit: I think a good comparison is pushing back when Israel tries to claim falafel as its own dish. Falafel won't stop being delicious either way and it's not a hill to die on, but fuck Israel for trying.
filling my guts with Пероги for a heckin slavy the ukraine to celebrate lunar new years
- I mean, they're as much dumplings as crab rangoon is
as a black person...
will do!

It's commonly called "Lunar New Year" among non-Chinese English speakers in Southeast Asia, since it's a holiday in many countries there.

Well that makes sense. Chinese New Year is not called Chinese New Year in China, it’s just the New Year.

When you go somewhere where “New Year” or “Lunar New Year” means something else, for example the Gregorian New Year, the generic term that works in your own country might cause confusion for others, necessitating a distinction.

But within an American context, specifically relating to the Chinese diaspora, the shift in terminology is undeniably due to the political climate vis-a-vis China.
Those are different holidays.

What we “celebrate” in the west is Chinese new year. It has red envelopes and a rabbit in the zodiac, which means it’s not Vietnamese New Year or Malaysian New Year or Japanese New Year, which are distinct and different holidays

Friendly reminder to Liberals that flattening culture and being a “cultural melting pot” is genocide and white supremacy. Culture is defined by its distinctiveness and specificity, the more you broaden it and make it vague the more you destroy it.

The idea of “cultural melting pot” came out of a Fordist-type industrialist making his employees in the US do a play where they go into the pot in their indigenous and cultural outfits and all come out with suits and the same hair cut. This is the process you are attempting to apply to a Chinese holiday to remove it or it’s specific features and erase it

The reason it’s called Chinese New Year and not Lunar New Year is because 农历新年 translates to “Chinese calendar New Year.”

农历 literally means “agricultural calendar” but somehow it was translated into “Chinese calendar” in English. If you want to be literal with the translation it should be called the “agricultural calendar New Year”.

In fact, the name was only changed in 1970 when it was previously called 夏历 (Xia calendar), which refers to a very specific calendar from the Xia dynasty, where as many as 102 different types of calendar have been known to exist throughout the entire Chinese history. The agricultural calendar is built upon and evolved from the Xia calendar to form a type of lunisolar calendar (Yin Yang calendar) that combines the Yin calendar (阴历, i.e. lunar) and the Yang calendar (阳历, i.e. solar), so it’s not entirely correct to call it a lunar calendar, or Lunar New Year.

农历新年 (Chinese calendar New Year) is used to distinguish it from just 新年 (New Year) because the Gregorian calendar has been used in official capacity in China since the late Qing dynasty, and continued by the Republic of China in 1912 and then the People’s Republic of China in 1949.

In China, Chinese New Year is also called 春节 (Spring Festival).

Can people just say "Happy New Year" and move on? Why the need to specify? It's not like people don't know the date, and it's not like "Happy Holidays" isn't an equally ambiguous statement.
- Most people just say Happy New Year but because we celebrate both new years, depending on the contexts you want to specify which one you’e referring to.

I've seen Steam call it Lunar New Year on their sales for years now. They sure as fuck never meant Ramadan, but plenty of Americans are so frothingfash that even mentioning China invites people screaming at you and sending death threats

This seems like its going to be a large struggle session on here...

I honestly don't care if someone calls me a lib online because of me saying "Lunar New Year" or tankie or ebil CCP shill for "Chinese New Year"....

I know this has a geopolitical context but it's like "Happy Holidays" vs "Merry X-Mas" to me again...

Edit: Honestly, could be worse.... it could be Taiwan New Year for all I know

That being said, if they INSIST on saying LUNAR New Year, if I say Chinese, we gonna have a problem...

the barista at starbucks wished me a bountiful LUNAR new year! wokeness has gone mad!
- Active push to use “lunar New Year” due to anti-China sentiment
  
  This is exactly the same as Happy Holidays
  
  Come back when there’s rising anti-Christian sentiment. (And maybe skip the trivialization of casual Sinophobia next time)
Christians aren’t the subject of a racist moral panic. Chinese people are.
- Well, I mean, unless there's footage of people attacking or using racial slurs at people for them calling it "Chinese New Year", because of ebil CCP sentiments, I don't think there's much fuss to be made here....

Nothingburger.

Chinese games that aren't afraid to place Chinese culture forward call it Lunar New Year in the west too.

My hometown has a lot of Chinese people and a lot of Vietnamese people. Lunar New Year seems appropriate.
Genshin impact is made by libs who will submit to whatever bullshit the west comes up with to make more money.
You can still celebrate Chinese culture, you just have to make it clear you’re not “connected to the PRC”.

Chinese people having to change the names of their holidays in the west because of this is not a “nothingburger”.

Calling it Lunar New Year is more inclusive. I can't tell if this is a bit or not.

It is not “more inclusive”. Unless you think it’s also more inclusive to stop calling Ramadan “Ramadan” and start calling it “the fasting”. In fact, it ignores the diversity of different lunar new years in different cultures.

Chinese New Year is a distinct, Chinese holiday. It is not the same as the Vietnamese Lunar New Year, for example.

In order to conform with the new extreme anti-China zeitgeist, references specifically to the Chinese Lunar New Year are being replaced with the generic term “Lunar New Year”.
- My impression is that they're using Lunar New Year as a way to include all the cultures the celebrate it, not as a way to be Sinophobic.
  
  Do you think they should just list all of them?
  
  I find it hard to accept that saying Lunar New Year is more Sinophobic than not saying Tet is exclusive of Vietnamese people.
- Hilarious there are libs in here arguing with this and supporting sinophobia under the guise of “inclusivity”
The problem is that the US's conception of Lunar New Year is basically Chinese New Year, so it's very obvious that the push has more to do with malding over China than being inclusive. For example, giving kids red envelopes is largely done in Chinese New Year and Vietnamese New Year (Tet). For Japanese New Year, they have a totally different style of envelope and for Malaysia, the envelopes are green. So, if your "Lunar New Year" is just giving out envelopes of a particular design with a particular color, then it's more whitewashing than inclusivity. Different Lunar New Year has different traditions. Chinese New Year and Tet might share the same color envelopes, but the Chinese zodiac and Vietnamese zodiac are different. Last year was Year of the Rabbit in China but Year of the Cat in Vietnam, so if your "Lunar New Year" celebrates the year of the rabbit last year, then "Lunar New Year" isn't Tet because the rabbit isn't part of the Vietnamese zodiac. And as a final point, the Lunar New Year isn't universal, meaning it can fall on different days depending on what country you're talking about. So, it isn't a given that Chinese New Year and Tet fall on the same day and if your "Lunar New Year" perfectly matches the date of Chinese New Year, then "Lunar New Year" is just Chinese New Year.

You can see this in the 2023 Lunar New Year article from CNN: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/lunar-new-year-2023-illustrated-guide-hnk-intl/index.html

"Saying goodbye to the Tiger, we enter the Year of the Rabbit on January 22, 2023." Goes back to what I said about Tet being the Year of the Cat, so they're already excluding a particular lunar new year.

The first graphic is just the basic aesthetics associated with Chinese New Year. Red is only the definitive lunar new year color for Chinese New Year and Tet. It's not particularly relevant for the other lunar new years. Eastern dragons aren't that prominent in the other lunar new years either. Some of the other zodiacs don't even have the dragon.

The spring banner graphic. I mean, it's just stuff written in Chinese. People in Korea aren't hanging up red banners with Hanja lol. I don't even know if those Chinese phrases are meaningful in Korean Hanja.

The food is just Chinese food. Every lunar new year has their own particular set of dishes to consume with their own particular symbolic meaning. Like, it would actually be inclusive if they had a dish for each different lunar new year, but it's just Chinese food for totally-not Chinese New Year.

Going back to what I said earlier about red envelopes, that's largely a Chinese New Year and Tet thing.

Xin nian kuai le and gung hei faat coi are just greetings in varieties of Chinese. One Japanese greeting during Japanese New Year per Wikipedia is kotoshi mo yoroshiku o-negai-shimasu. For Tet, Vietnamese people would say Chúc mừng năm mới. It isn't really inclusive if you only have traditional Chinese greetings in your article about not-Chinese New Year.

Goes back to my earlier point about different Asian countries having different zodiacs. You can't really have a one-size fits all zodiac, so they settled for the Chinese zodiac.

At the end of the article, we finally have acknowledgment that other Asian countries other than China exist. Like, they had a grand total of two sentences devoted to lunar new year traditions that aren't related to Chinese New Year.

Taken by itself, you could chalk this up to dumbass white people thinking Asia is just China, but given the geopolitical realities between the US and China and the role of MSM as a component of the state apparatus, as shown in the ridiculous weather balloon saga, we absolutely cannot give these dumbass white people the benefit of the doubt.
- I would personally chalk it up more to the liberal language of inclusiveness rather than Sinophobia. I bet most liberals in the US are aware that the lunar new year is celebrated in other cultures, but know very little about those other celebrations. In this light I can see the instinct to be inclusive and then getting details wrong. I expect they see it as a "I should say happy holidays rather than Merry Christmas" sort of thing.
  
  What's the adage? Never attribute to malice what could just as easily be attributed to ignorance?
  
  Little personal anecdote: I used to live in the Bay Area and the town would put up banners that said "gung hay fat choy (sic)" on the lampposts around new year. Tonight I was coming home from the airport in my new city which has a much larger Vietnamese population and the little traffic advisory sign said "chuc mung nam moi".
Except the Chinese calendar is not lunar, it's lunisolar. Also, dozens of other regions, cultures, and religions have their own lunar calendars which have new year's at a different time.

So by being "inclusive", not only is the term inaccurate, it also erases the lunar new years of other cultures.
I don't get it either. I'm from one of these countries that celebrate the Lunar New Year but live in the imperial core, and I've been to parties or gatherings with a mix of East asians celebrating and I don't think anyone there took issue with it being called Lunar New Year as a quick reference to the different holidays around the same time. You can phone your parents and use your own lingo then but when returning to English it really is no big deal?

I get the "Chinese" in CNY being a boogeyman thing for western whitewashed people, but personally as someone from East Asia I think Hexbear who think this is 100% a Sinophobic thing should log off and go to a new year party.
No it’s specifically made to de-Chinafy it and is clearly done via sinophobia due to the recent push.

Using “inclusion” to bulldoze and destroy culture is disgusting. It’s more inclusive to make Hanukkah non-Jewish amirite? Why don’t we just call it Candelabrah and make it non-denominational for everyone to be more inclusive :)
- In this case, it's about an astronomical event. The Muslim calendar also uses it.

Guy whipping up a moral panic about "the woke left's war on Chinese new year" could be a funny bit.

I like it lol

You cannot outrun the euphemism treadmill.

They did the same thing last year

How was last year my 2 favorite animals and it still sucked so hard?
- Or maybe, it was WAY better than it could have been?
how can it be year of the rabbit AND year of the cat
- China and Vietnam have different zodiacs.

uncle-ho-2

I've noticed this for a while too, the more gusano-filled a city is here the more they call it Lunar New Year instead of Chinese New Year

Most every other nation that celebrates it bases it off the Chinese New Year. It's been going on for thousands of years. It isn't something Mao invented. Good grief empire get a grip.

It's not even just the White House or whatever. I've seen a lot of mentions of "Lunar New Year" this year over "Chinese New Year." One need only look at the individual sales over on Steam. It's "$company Lunar New Year's Sale" this year. It's...kinda depressing for some reason. Probably cause the shift was unwarranted at the end of the day.

They called it lunar new year on steam at least as far back as 2019 because I have some emotes from then
- Ah. Still makes me sad one way or the other.

It's literally compiled from astronomical observations and the calculations are based off of a specific longitude. Which governments make the compilation? The PRC and the ROC. What Longitude do they use? Beijing. Japan uses western New Years, I'm pretty sure Tet is a completely seperate holiday/date and the Koreans can go fuck themselves and make their own damn calendar.

Vietnamese, Mongolian, and Korean new years all fall under the same day generally. They'll have to start saying that they celebrate Chinese New Year under your standards then.
- Read my comment on this thread. The reason it’s called Chinese New Year has nothing to do with China but that 农历 (agricultural calendar) had been translated into “Chinese calendar” in English for reasons. It literally means “agricultural calendar new year” in Chinese.
  
  It is not accurate to call it Lunar New Year either (阴历新年, or the Yin calendar New Year) because the calendar dates of the agricultural calendar (农历) are calculated based on a combination of lunar (Yin) and solar (Yang) calendars.
- Yes. They should.
- Vietnam does their own calendar calculations (Based off of the Chinese calendar) and the longitude difference makes it fall on different days on certain years. The Koreans don't have their own calendar they literally use the Chinese calendar, specificly the most recent revision of it from the Qing dynasty. Mongolia uses a completely different calendar based off of the Tibetan one. Fuck off with your orientalist bullshit. All these places with the exception of Korea have seperate calendars and they already have different names for their new years. Koreans can call it Korean New Years when they make their own calendar like the Vietnamese did.

I call it "the real new year"

They could at least call it the spring festival like they call it in China.

Uhh, it’s called 新年 in China- New Year.
- 我朋友住在中国和说都”新年””龙年””春节”和其他事情
- The correct answer is that it's both.

There pushing the Lunar New Year stamps pretty hard aren't they?

this is just happy holidays all over again