What is even the point. You're not even hunting at that point.
What is even the point. You're not even hunting at that point.
Big strong predator that sucks at hunting so much that they need to lure the deer to stand directly in front of their gun.
At that point you're not even a hunter, you're a slob that might as well be ordering from a menu. Pathetic.
I live in Texas, land of the manly fella.
Lots of ‘canned hunts’ - animals fenced in behind ‘game fence’ with nowhere to go, really. Most hunts here you go to a deer lease, which is a big land area with lots of game, stay in someones ranch home, have someone wake you up, feed you, drive you to a deer blind with corn feeders, and let you go. They come back, pick you up later, and process (butcher) anything you may have shot. Typically you leave afterwards with Bambi wrapped up in 1lb chubbs, some backstrap tenderloin steaks, and whatever else is left of the poor trapped animal that you didnt blow to smithereens with your overpowered deer rifle.
None of what most rednecks refer to ‘hunting’ is an actual hunt. Its baiting and waiting.
Im not sure what video i was watching. But I found it interesting that basically in Texas there is no 'public' shooting infrastructure. everything is private, so to shoot you need to have land or know someone with land and pay. Is this true in your experience?
Thats correct. Either private shooting range, or private land.
this sounds like a stupidly inefficient way to run a slaughterhouse...
one of the funniest short exchanges in True Detective S1, where Rust just casually wipes his ass on Marty's affected and insecure masculinity, while they are tracking Dewall/Reggie into the low country. it's too crass to bring up in polite conversation, but it kills me to even be reminded of it.
"You ever been huntin', Marty?"
"Uh, yeah. Ten-point buck, year before last. Fifty yards."
"I'm not talkin about sittin' in a tree house, waitin' to ambush a buck come to sniff your gash bait. I'm talkin about trackin'."
"Jesus, you're a prick."the greater context is that Rustin's crazy survivalist/vietnam-vet father taught him bow-hunting in the Alaskan wilderness as a youth and Marty is the exact kind of weekend warrior bozo that trophy hunts in the easiest way possible, so now Rust can see the path taken by the killer and disable booby traps, while Marty is useless and needs to follow behind.
Tracking is incredibly satisfying. I'm no good at it, but wandering around looking at foot prints and putting on a serious face and saying "the tracks have soft edges so they might be old, but there was a freeze and a thaw in the last 24 hours that may have distorted them. At any rate, they pressed over these prints of our own boots from when we came to the park last week to pretend to be cool game stalkers, so that gives us a window"
That is one of my favorite shows ever! But only that season, the rest sucked IMO. Oh but the new one with Jodi Foster is good too. I just finished watching it last week.
You're not a real fisher if you use bait. Coax the fish to bite the bare hook.
You know what? No. Not good enough. Forget the hook. Get in there with your hands.
Pshh, you use an atlatl? Fucking scrub, just wish death upon the prey until the gods oblige
Catching fish with your hands isn't easy, but if you know how and you've got pre-industrial devastation fish stocks it's doable. Fishing spear or gig is easier though.
makes perfect sense if you're subsistence hunting. which most American hunters are no longer doing.
man i love this stuff. i can polish off a whole bag in 10 minutes if no one stops me.
Are you a deer? Be honest
using a gun is already cheating. you're not a real hunter unless you wrestle and strangle the deer with your bare hands
You're allowed a spear, but it has to be a spear you made yourself. Deer have had four hundred thousand years to invent spears, they're just being lazy asses growing them out of their heads instead.
I'm willing to make an exception for a flint-knapped biface tool (as long as you make it yourself, obviously)
I think I could take some western white tails.
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You've gotta chase that deer for 10 miles until it drops dead of a heart attack or run it off of a cliff!
I don't think there is anything wrong with it. You are looking at hunting as a sport. I am looking at hunting as a means of obtaining food. I used to go hunting for rabbit and pheasant mostly, for food. It's way more humane than modern livestock for chicken, pork, cows, etc, and for deer, it keeps the population to a manageable level since most of the natural predators were unfortunately wiped out.
Um it’s not more humane, it’s less inhumane.
I think this is interesting. What is the specific thing that makes hunting inhumane? Some might say it's about the act of killing, but really it's about the act of suffering and dying that matters.
And then you have to compare that suffering and death to whatever the alternative is. The obvious answer is less suffering and death. But nobody is reducing that, or really planning on reducing that.
The nature of a wild animal is that they don't write wills and crawl into hospital beds and take morphine and kiss their grandchildren goodbye. Every time a deer dies, it's going out a few different ways or a combination of a few different ways. Those ways are all the worst things that can possibly happen to a sapient being.
Usually they'll break a leg, drag themselves around in constant pain for months, and then slowly wither away in the pure agony of starvation.
Or if there are wolves, coyotes, wild dogs etc, those animals will do heinous torture to the deer that barely any human has ever done to an animal, so badly that doing so would put you in the company of our most infamous sadists. It's slow and agonizing and outrageously disgusting. They ram their heads up the deer's ass to tear organs out as the deer watches, for hours.
The other main option for a deer is to be shot in the heart, sprint 100 yards and keel over. When hunters fuck up or take an unethical shot, they begin to approach the standard wild animal death but are very unlikely to get close.
So if you accept that it's not about the human, and it's really about the animal, nothing about the process of hunting is actually adding any suffering to what a wild animal experiences.
Your pet dog basically does get morphine and head pats and euthanasia, so none of that applies there. If deer were getting morphine and euthanasia in old age, it's pretty bad to shoot them. But if you have no intention of reducing animal suffering, I don't think the deer could, should, or even would give a shit about how "natural" a person thinks it is to be starving and devoured by wild dogs
This is one of the logical conclusions of turning hunting into a lifestyle. Eventually some people will realize that the waiting and stalking isn't really different than baiting in outcome, but it makes things quicker.
This kind of thing is actually less contradictory and is in many ways more honest than Honorable Hunter Culture (TM) even though it's still gross (im vegan). Food is actually plentiful for these people due to industrialization and imperialism so hunting is just a form of entertainment for them. It's not for subsistence and it's not part of any culture that deserves respect. They just like to shoot and kill things and go through the process of butchering an animal and justifying having a chest freezer so they can eat meat they actually prefer to eat less than the stuff they can buy at the supermarket. 90% of what they claim to like about hunting is just camping, too. It also integrates with military/veteran culture in buying a bunch of camo shit and practicing surviving in "the wild" or "off grid" for a short period, something much easier to accomplish with a single $20 bag of beans, $10 of water, and $20 of fuel.
It's all aesthetics, it's a hobby, it's a LARP for subscribers to toxic masculinity.
If I lived in a place with abundant high quality protein walking around pinyata style I'd be tempted. I been broke enough to do worse before.
You have to drop hundreds on the gun and ammo first and then either pay someone to process the carcass or learn how to do it yourself. You also need to cart the thing out, usually meaning you have to buy a truck that costs tens of thousands or pay someone to do that as well.
Makes me recall a native friend of mines father telling us how him and his brothers were getting skunked hunting and as a last resort they decided to 'hunt like white boys'. Sit in their truck with rifles waiting for an animal to walk by.
So you're going to give the venison to hungry people, right?
Right?i thought baiting deer was illegal? or in that case can this be sold because it's not specified to be used for hunting?
That's why it looks like dirt.
It's not illegal everywhere but this is meant to be something you can use discreetly.
It is in TN and they are pretty serious about it if you get caught. You are more likely to get your gun taken by a game warden than a cop. This country makes no sense
Looks like it's illegal in some states. Never knew this because I've seen people set up web cameras to watch the deer they feed, unless that's a different type of feed not used for hunting.
i shuold have known. those plasma people can do everything we vapors and gasses can't
I’m just a deer bait dirtbag, baby,
I’m just a deer bait dirtbag baby,
eat me as dry molasses, maybe,
She doesn’t know what she’s missing
Hunting is the only time these people actually sit in nature.
Just be glad they aren't hunting literal zoo animals.
I didn't even realise this was for killing deer I just upvoted because DIRT BAG is funny and this site has broken my brain
It's about sitting in a tree for several hours getting drunk and shooting something that's less than 10 feet away.
it's not the hunting they enjoy, it's the killing.
I'm not anti-hunting but this kind of shit is pathetic
stops chewing wait this stuff is for deer?
Just spray some mud on your tires/car and say you went hunting
This looks like if Amber Frost started a biltong brand
Amber.
How'd you get a picture of me?!?
Getting food /= Sport.
With property lines and such, anybody who actually wanted to track an animal as a part of hunting it, can't actually (or shouldn't) hunt an animal unless its on a very very large preserve.
The point is to get a bunch of deer friends.
We need the vegan circlejerk to come back
