What the flip are you looking at?

I don't like either candidate, but I'll be damned if trump is going to be president again and project 2025 comes to fruition.

You guys could just overthrow the government, kill the elite and start fresh. Please do that.
- just overthrow the government
  
  That's far easier said than done, and honestly even saying that feels like an understatement
- We could just take out the pharmaceutical manufacturers and the government would expire when they don’t get their meds.
  
  Sun Tzu
- Sooooo, basically what trump tried, but its somehow okay because you said it?
- How's the weather in Moscow today?
Doesn't the USA technically have 6 parties?
- Sure, and a window on the fifth floor is technically an exit. But that doesn't make it a viable option.

Thank you, I’ll spend the entire day rewatching the series all over again

FYI they posted all episodes to their YouTube

The IT Crowd
- Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
  
  The IT Crowd
  
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I'm going to write in your username now.

November Headline: Random Lemmy user declared president of the United States
- Can't be any worse than the current options 🤷

Remember, vote for the guy doing a genocide to prevent the other guy from doing a genocide.

Dear left leaning voters,

There's literally no difference between the candidates so why vote at all? Just stay at home.

Yours faithfully,

Some cunts with a vested interest in making sure Trump wins and withdraws all support for Ukraine.

I think he wants to withdraw all support for democracy

I sure would love to see some some of these memes leveling criticisms at moderates and liberals for being inflexible.

Hard to be flexible when the whole schtick of the right wing is to actively be bad people
- Then it should be easy for liberals and moderates to compromise with leftists and progressives.

cant wait to be able to vote when someone under 60 is running. That's going to be a really cool day. Like 30 years from now.

I would personally be happier with 20 something year old presidential candidates over the current trend of the battling octogenarians. At least the 20 something year old politicians would have to live a long time with the ramifications of their decisions and actions.

Its still not ideal, but I would take it over these incredibly out of touch seniors. They should be out enjoying their retirement and last days on Earth, anyways.
- there is definitely something to be said about the known future impact of legislation for younger members.
The majority of presidents have been under 60. Obama, Clinton, Bush 2, Jimmy Carter, JFK, both Roosevelts...

Only Trump and Biden have been over 70. Regan missed it by like 20 days.
- only one of those have been recent. hillary might've been younger but we all know how that went lol. bush 2 electric boogaloo would've been pretty close though.
You should run
- For president, or away?
- i would run. You have 30 million dollars for a campaign?

I've never heard of such a movement, tbh.

It's an incredibly stupid movement where people are saying that they won't vote as a protest to not liking either candidate.

Usually said by people who have little to lose if Republicans win, seem to think revolution is a viable possibility if Republicans win, and/or think that by not voting something good might happen.

Also people who don't understand that our system is a First-Past-the-Post system and the only group of people who are trying to get support for not voting in this election are people on the left.

So I'm not as many words: people trying to guarantee a victory for trump.
- I'll be voting but it won't be for Biden or Trump. If you want me to vote for him then figure out how to make him listen to the people he's depending on to get elected.
- Again, I haven't seen anything like that. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you aren't dumb enough to be confusing the noncommitted movement of the DNC Primaries with the general election in November. You're not that dumb, right?

Fffffffffffffffffploppers!

Please make more IT Crowd

Please don't, that never works out
- I mean, Ayoade might make it work... then again, his style has changed a bit with the years.

I'm voting for the PSL this year! 😊votesocialist2024.com

E: wow, so much for democracy 😔

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It's easy to understand the leftist claim that liberals always ultimately bend to fascism when you see comments like this that explain the US's turn to fascism is because of leftists(?).

You comprise one of the two sides who blindly vote according to the principle of "he's better than the other guy". I suspect you'd be fine with more genocides in the decades to come only insofar as they're committed by democrats. Meanwhile, actual leftists will continue to imagine better systems, build mutual aid networks, and arm vulnerable comrades. American electotalism isn't going to stop the backslide into fascism or the ecocidal intent of the US ruling class.
- Agreed. And if we look even a decade into the future what happens when leftists and progressives voters suddenly start dominating primaries? Are moderates and liberals going to show up in the general elections then? I think we all know the answer.
  
  Fascism isn't a possibility, it's a guarantee and it will be moderates and liberals who are to blame.
This is obviously absurd. If choosing from the legal options in an election is being part of a "conspiracy" then the whole system is already failed and you yourself are a conspirator for not doing anything about it.

And no, voting one of the same two parties that have brought all this mess in the first place is not doing something. The Reps and Dems are equally responsible for the desolate state of the US democracy. So by your definition of "conspirator" you have conspirated to bring about the conditions in which Trump not only was elected, but has a chance to be reelected.

i'll vote for nobody. nobody cares! nobody is honest! nobody for prez

Today's opinion on voting is brought to you by somebody who doesn't understand how voting works
- today's response to my comment is brought to you by somebody who doesn't understand how jokes work
- The electoral college nullifies a huge portion of votes so I really doubt you have a grasp on politics that would even surpass a high schooler
None of the above!

Both candidates are a joke & without voting reform it’ll stay as a cabal for the donor class, lobbyist, & corporations. It costs about $10 to mail my ballot to my very red-&-ain’t-changin’ domicile… so I’ll just keep my $10 & buy 6 made-to-order meals instead.

Local elections are also very important and really need participation. Like if you wanted that fee for mail-in voting to go away that would likely be a decision made by local politicians.

And without voting there's no hope for change for the better

Congratulations on ensuring our system has a harder time improving
- I would agree but I spent very little time in my domicile & haven’t set foot within US borders in years. Seeing that I don’t pay (local) taxes or otherwise participate in the local community or economy, I would argue it would be unethical if I did vote in a place that doesn’t represent me & I don’t understand too well—like voting straight ticket without looking into any candidates. Last time I did a mail-in, I only checked State-level boxes since those you can easily research online & are more broad-reaching than the local level where only locals should be casting ballets for their community.
  
  If I could vote on issues that actually affect me, I absolutely would—like FBAR reforms where you aren’t seen as a criminal for having more that $10k in a foreign bank where you actually have your address, tax reforms that took TurboTax out of the equation as the only ‘affordable’ option that actually lets you file with a non-US address instead of a no-service error, or Medicare/Medicaid reform that allowed vouchers or reimbursement for using services abroad rather than it being a money sinkhole you pay into your whole life, even if you don’t live there, but can’t redeem any care unless on US soil. These are never ballot measures & instead requires, ugh lobbying or a representative willing to champion these topics seen niche despite there being more citizens outside the US than some States in population.
That’ll show ‘em!

(Obligatory /s)