[CW: Islamophobia] .World fully embracing their Islamophobic reddit heritage

In Islam he's another prophet, and Muslims believe Jesus will return in the final days. But they don't consider him a God or the son of God, so no "what will Jesus think of this" because he's not the one that they believe is the judge

They view him as another prophet, not the Son of God.

I me Mekka, two graves are prepared and left empty for centuries. One is for the Mahdi, one is for Jesus when he returns to heaven.

I was just thinking about the Ramy episode, sorry if i gave off the wrong impression comrade

So about the same as christians

I think there's a misunderstanding somewhere but I do know Muslims who give a shit about Jesus's position and doctrine.

As others said, he is considered a prophet, and different Muslims may place more or less importance on him, but by virtue of being a prophet in Islam they can care very much about his position and doctrine. Yes, they don't consider Jesus to be God Incarnate but, outside of the Fourth Gospel, it wasn't Jesus's position either. So they actually mostly accept and believe in the Gospels, particularly the Synoptic ones. Some even believe in the Virgin Birth. Jesus's Divinity is not really relevant to most of his teachings. So you can say, and I know Muslims who say, that they "believe in Jesus."

At least two confirmed sources (himself and his dad) claim that he was actually incredibly unpopular even in rich colonizer school in South Africa.

Dude is so uniquely abrasive that nobody has ever liked him for any reason other than trying to ride on his wealthy coat tails. Perfect specimen of dumbass, yet you are forced to hear about him incessantly because he has all the money in the world for some reason.

I think it was a sub struggle session of the greater religion struggle session

It doesn't help that the "image of Muhammad" that these chuds want to produce is almost always the most vile and racist caricature you could possibly imagine, not far off from the Happy Merchant antisemitic one

I am asking why it's more offensive to say "Mohammed has an annoying fan base" than it is to say "Jesus has an annoying fan base," which the original photo does. I get that both are offensive, it just seems like they are on par for a meme, and both are in there.

Isn't that the same tenet, it's just interpreted differently? That is Christians historically treating it as idols dedicated to other deities, with inconsistent although not completely absent application to Christian figures (like IIRC one Protestant grievance against Catholics had to do with their use of idols, particularly idols of saints).

It also has to be said that Islam is not unique nor monolithic in terms of how rigidly its followers adhere to its tenets nor even what those tenets are assumed to mean, and historically Muslim depictions of Muhammad in religious art did happen and were accepted in some places and at some times. The modern extremeness of the issue is a combination of the unusually hardline and extreme interpretation pushed by Saudi Arabia - which US intelligence has helped it export globally because salafist militants both tend to do the sort of reactionary violence that furthers American interests and have provided a casual pretext for the US to roll in and start occupying whomever it pleases whenever it pleases - and the fact that it's basically just a racist airhorn used by blowhards who want to say "I hate you and hold you in complete contempt, so I'm publicly thumbing my nose at you and daring you to try something" in a way that invites retaliation from aggrieved and impulsive young men who already feel disaffected and targeted by racism.

Not even all Muslims do.

The Christians had a big fight about it as well. It's pretty obvious who won.

Yeah my question isn't why is an image of him offensive. Since they've actually made the choice not to break that tenet in this meme, my question is why is it more offensive to reference Mohammed in the second panel than it is to actually have a picture of Jesus in the first image. Seems like an equal critique of both Christianity and Islam, so I don't know why one is worse, but all the comments are just about the rule barring images of Mohammed.