‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

Bleh, it sucks to find out about another school shooting this way. I'm glad they do this though.
- Same thought. I see this headline and think, "Oh no..."
  Young teenagers murdering people. So crazy.
- Same here. Had to look up the story. Ugh...
  You'd think I'd be numb to it by now, but my heart breaks every time.
- You can just assume that since it's a day ending in "y" there has been another mass shooting in America
- But why would it happen at all?

"let's get back to talking about how gay books in the library are ruining our kids' lives!!"
-GOP
- What they need to do is make guns gay, then watch how quick they're banned.
  
  Not too hard, the things are often phallic shaped and you gotta stroke its trigger to get it to release its load everywhere. Just saying.
  
  What's the internet rule that there is porn for everything you can think of? There has to be gun fetish gay porn. All sane Americans need to do is get whoever is more influential than Dan Savage to give the movement legs ala "Santorum"

As a non-American, can I just say: get your shit together and ban guns as you clearly can’t be trusted with them as a country.
Fully expecting to get downvoted by the “but it’s mah hobby” brigade. Get a new hobby, there’s peoples lives at stake.
- America has a gun problem but it also has a fear problem.
  
  And a self-esteem problem.
  
  And a big racism problem.
- They need more regulation. It's easier to get a gun then a drivers license.
  
  What makes it easier to get a gun license if I get a drivers license afterwards?
- The reality of it is we know straight up banning guns is the only way to truly solve this problem. The issue is we like to pretend it is some super complex issue with all this nuance that can only be approached by the best and brightest, but the right people to put that policy together just haven't come along yet. We tell ourselves that because the truth is we are totally okay with a certain amount of faceless death as long as we can have our toys and we don't have to clean up the mess.
- We've been arguing about this in the US for my whole life, and I'm not young. At this point it should be obvious neither of the two faces of our government has any interest in doing anything more about guns than using the topic as a wedge to divide us and as a source of campaign funding. So you want to ban guns. Is that the hill you want your children to die on? How about instead of insisting that's the only way, we enact a solution that keeps kids alive and that both the red and blue team can agree on, like, say, mandatory armed guards (a paid job, not volunteers) at school entrances. Is it in conflict with our ideal vision of a peaceful society? Maybe, but it works. Other countries have done it and it stopped school shootings entirely.
  
  I think the two-party system you've got there has got you by the balls. No offence.
- That would never happen because whichever party does it, they can kiss goodbye to victory forever.
  
  Then all parties can do it.
- And as an American, all i have to say is
  Sure, we will just march on up to the Capitol amidst all the lobbiers and gun obsessed GoP fascists and tell them, "Please stop, someone from lemmy who isn't even American says that's all we need to do."
  If you aren't American, keep your mouth shut on what we "should" do. Many, many of us are tired of these shootings, and on top of it all, our democracy is at stake, along with our ways of life to boot. Our country is failing, and all we can do is VOTE. It's not that fucking easy. Stop accusing our entire country of this bullshit like we want it. The majority of us aren't like this.
  
  Y'all became a country by rebelling and telling England to fuck off also because of the whole "no taxation without representation".

"If only there were 50 more guns for everyone to whip out at the same time with no way of knowing who the shooter is in the sea of guns, that'll be safer!"
- I think I've read a story or two about the "anti-shooter" getting shot for being at a massacre with a weapon drawn, like some kind of murderer.
  
  Drawing a weapon in public seems insane to me. Even if you are the "good guy with a gun" in the eyes of everyone else, you are a potential murderer.

NRA: If only enough 14 year olds were armed, this could have been prevented...
- I'm Georgia they can be.
  
  Hi Georgia, I'm Dead
  
  And the teachers
  
  Not literally 14 yo though.

Thoughts and prayers
Now what about them there mexicans at the border!!!
- Yeah those dangerous illegal aliens coming up and killing our families meanwhile the children are killing more of our families than the aliens. Fuck the GOP, and fuck the 2nd amendment.
  
  I'm far left, but I actually don't hate on the 2nd Amendment. It was a pivotal moment in US history, fortifying the power of the people and its rule over government.
  But at the time the 2nd Amendment was written, the most powerful weapon that the average person would have had access to was the flintlock musket. The flintlock had a relatively short effective range of around 50 to 100 yards and took time to reload after each shot.
  It would stand to reason that much stronger laws are required to compensate for the amount of fire power available to people now.
- I heard there are trans people out there existing.
- Careful. They want your cookie.

My opinions about guns have changed over the years. I used to be of the opinion that nobody should have guns in this day and age, what's the point aside from ego boosting and sport.
Then a cheeto puff did a treason on jan6.
I'll give up my guns only after the fascists give up theirs. Non negotiable.
You want to "prevent tragedies"? fund programs for welfare and healthcare. Tax the rich. Break up megacorps like google, albertsons, nestle. Enact and enforce employee protections. Raise the minimum wage. Ban airbnb and heavily tax empty residences. Universal basic income! Did I mention fixing the healthcare system? More that I'm forgetting to list.
Miserable parents make miserable kids, and miserable kids lash out. For the wealthiest and most powerful nation on the planet, this shouldn't be hard to figure out.
- ... Nestlé...
  But surely it's proper for one company to control the entire food supply. I mean you wouldn't want to be a communist and not let the free market do as it wishes
  /s in case the italics and words aren't enough
  
  i have on occasion been accused of being a communist. Usually when I point out that people deserve rights.
- also fire every single cop in the country and replace them all with people who actually believe that they're supposed to protect and serve.
  
  The problem is that all of those ex-cops would still exist and still be American citizens. They'd 100% create a far right militia, at the very least. No doubt about it.
  Unless we shipped them off to Russia or something.
- Yea, you could totally win a gun fight against the US military 🙄
  
  oh absolutely. I have the power of god and anime on my side.
  
  Read the rest of the thread. They're not talking about the military.
- That is such stupid logic. "Oh people want to violently overthrow the government? I want them to easily get guns" The fascists should be the exact reason you want to have strict gun control
  
  It doesn't work that way when they already all have guns. If you wanted to do it your way, you'd have needed to start on that gun control about 100 years ago.
  Because the cops are not going to take the fascists' guns, even if they were outlawed. They are vastly outnumbered by armed citizens, and they are scared of them, and many of the cops are the same fascists too.
- So much to unpack here. Your last 2 paragraphs are lucid, but the previous 3 are unhinged.
  
  Am i wrong though?
  
  Unhinged how? Or do you just have insults and no substance?

Fuck this is the way I learn there’s been a school shooting!
- Pretty sure there's a school shooting in the US nearly every day now... We only hear about them during election season
  
  It's only about one per week, if you average it out over the whole year, including when there is no school.
  2022 had 51: https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2022/01
  If you are just talking about "mass shooting" events, it's closer to 2 events per day in the USA.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023#List
  
  There is a mass shooting everyday (on average), school shootings are a bit less often.
  
  There are (on average) around two mass shootings per day, but only (ugh) about one school shooting per week when you actually average it across the whole year. For instance, 2022 had 51 school shootings, but had 647 mass shootings total.
  The high number of mass shootings is because anything over 2 victims is considered a mass shooting. So when an abusive dad drunkenly shoots his wife and kids before committing suicide, it’s considered a mass shooting. Drive by gang shootings are frequently considered mass shootings if more than two people are hit. It’s not just an active shooter firing into a crowd, (though those definitely qualify.)
  
  How come there were none last week? Eh? Eh? Can't answer me that one! Trick question! Everyone was out on vacation! But we did have one day without a shooting, the first day. I can't imagine a situation where it takes two days to get someone angry enough to plan something like this though. It's so sad and stupid that we let things like this happen.

This might be the most evergreen article The Onion has ever published.
- be me
  doom scrolling international news on my death bed in 2064
  this article shows up
  goodbye my old friend
  
  It's depressing that this will likely be true in 2064.

School shooters still thinking they're going to become as infamous as Columbine. They're just getting added to the huge pile of names.
Nobody will remember you.
- Locally they will very much be remembered.
  
  Also, I don't think being remembered is the main point. It seems to me to be more about a violent release of frustration and getting back at the people who "wronged" them, usually combined with suicide by cop.

It's "funny" that there's conspiracy theories that these are all liberal psyops to force gun control. Surely the deep state would realize by now that no amount of dead children will change people's minds.

If you take away my unfettered access to guns, how will I support the government when they trample the rights of people I don't like? /s

The new face of violent radicalism in the United States: aggrieved, rural, white "Future Farmers of America" Trump kids raised by white, rural, aggrieved Trump parents that don't keep their guns secure.
Edit: yes, he was part of FFA. He was "member of the month" last month.
- Maybe don't go around posting pictures of the kid.
  
  I couldn't believe that they released his name like that. Totally out of line by whatever department decided to do that.
  
  It's on their Instagram.
- Correlation is not causation.
  
  your statement is true however that doesn’t mean that correlation does not imply cause.. the cause is fucking obvious to anyone that has more than 2 brain cells to rub together

Now I know emotions are all running high, and we’re all shocked and scared by yet another senseless act of violence (or mental illness if white, act of terror if brown). However, now is not the time to start talking about things like “gun control” and “approval lists.” How about we schedule sometime on March 31st around 7:30am EST and we can all sit down for 15 minutes and discuss ways to prevent the next tragedy. However I cannot stress it enough that NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO POLITICIZE THIS.
- Before we say the words “gun control,” can we think about the poor ammunition assembly line workers, who have to work mandatory overtime due to the demand, each time those words are said?
  
  No, we have to pray first. Give me your thoughts. They’re needed before we make the monthly (weekly??? Daily???) sacrifice of children in this country.
- It's telling that they even mention politicizing it. Like... why would something like that even need to be "political" at all, unless...?

Every bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun yesterday.
- what if he was a bad guy with no gun yesterday

Must suck to be the person that has to write this every time. Do you think it's one person or do you think they have to take turns?
- I imagine it's just a form they fill out with a few fields: city, number of shooters, number of dead, number of wounded. The rest of it stays the same each time.

Can't believe it's over ten years since John Oliver's Gun Control Trilogy
- It says there are no videos in the playlist. They have been removed? Where can I still watch them?
  
  It says there are no videos in the playlist.
  The videos are there for me. Maybe you're in a region where they're blocked?

This is the 37th time they've had to use this headline. I'm not sure if the repetition makes me more sad, or angry, or if it is now simply becoming numbing. Thirty-Seven. :-(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_to_Prevent_This,%27_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens

- On track for record profits this year! This is a wonderful graph for a business but horrible for what it actually is. Fuck the GOP and fuck the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendmenters don't think of the children, just the fetus.
  
  A little behind the past couple years actually but there's still 4 months.

Our self-inflicted suffering is evergreen.

"get him away from the video games"
Was the police's suggestion to the father last year when the kid threatened to do this. I don't even know what decade I live in anymore.

This is the fault of republicans and their insane, murderous legislation.

Honestly the fact we have enough of these to be able to make distinctions is even more depressing.

This is one of those articles that should both be in !theonion@midwest.social and !nottheonion@lemmy.world

repeal the 2nd
- We as a people, culture, and society are frankly too selfish and horrible to do something as decent as that. Not our fault, we've been and continue to be conditioned by the owners to be a nation of irredeemable wannabe sociopaths at each other's throats, but the fact remains that's who we are.
  Enjoy the cesspool, where greed/sociopathy is our only practiced value, and watching our poorie kids kill poorie kids (because this never happens at the nepo baby private schools) is our national pastime.
  Not like we became horrible or anything, we always were. We're a nation built by slaves owned by religious zealots on top of a genocide(of people who lived in homeostasis with the earth instead of actively setting it on fire) who's top exports are tools of volume murder and blueprints for other nations to better exploit their citizenry for their elite's private profit, not like there was ever any grace to lose.
  Oh but hey the Axis sunk our pacific fleet once and we fought back after we were attacked which apparently makes us virtuous heroes(?) or something.
  
  aussie has very similar bloody genocidal history, but we still banned most of the guns.
  you can do it too.
  big job though, good luck ❤️

Stupid freakin reposts.

- I genuinely think that improving access to mental health resources would do more good. Find out what is causing a small subset of kids to want to shoot people and usually themselves. Guns are a symptom not the core issue imo
  Were they bullied? Did the faculty care? What did the family situation look like? Were requests for help ignored?
  I think it would help with the overall trend of more depressed/suicidal kids too.
  
  And until we're done completely overhauling our mental health system, maybe we just give the children... bullet proof vests?