YouTube has found a new way to load ads | AdGuard Blog

The article makes it sound like a new concept, but it's a very old approach for adding ads to video streams. I mean, it's essentially how regular TV works.

Let's make an actual useful AI that detects ads and muted/blacks out the screen during ads. Haha

So if YouTube is now serving up the ads directly to me, does that mean they're finally liable for the content of those ads? Can we have them investigated for all the malware, phishing, illegal hate speech, etc.?

Ads will always be detectable because you cannot speed up or skip an ad like you can the rest of the video.

If they do make it so you can speed up or skip the ad sections of a video, mission accomplished.

If all else fails, I'd enjoy a plugin that just blanks the video and mutes the sound whenever an ad is playing. I'll enjoy the few seconds of quiet, and hopefully I can use that time to break out of the mentally unhealthy doom spiral that is the typical YouTube experience.

Oh well.

YouTube can be past-tense. There's a million places to post a video these days. Spill out some whiskey and read a book. Fuck em.

So, instead of iterating the ancient concept of frontal assault ads towards something less intrusive and more engaging, they go the black mirror path of force feeding ads?

Sounds about right regarding the decision makers have as much creativity as a Vogon.

Man I really hate those suit MBA circlejerk idiots in positions of power.

Only if premium did not have ads. They show you ad videos as if they’re part of your “recommendations”. They also allow creators to get sponsorships within videos. So even the premium experience isn’t really ad-free and they tout that shit everywhere.

Imagine all the cool stuff we could be doing if we weren’t wasting the time of hundreds of engineers figuring out how to shove ads in people’s faces.

I'm getting tired, man. these people are truly just the shittiest individuals ever.

There was a brief point in YouTube’s history where there were little-to-no ads, and creators weren’t expecting to make a living off the videos they made. Somewhere down the line, it feels like the wrong turn was taken from a content consumers perspective.

Yes, hosting is expensive between the infrastructure and bandwidth requirements, but there already was a model in traditional web hosting where the hosting provider charges for the hosting infrastructure, as well as storage and bandwidth costs. While we’re all so accustomed to accessing sites for free and fast, I think that there should’ve been a “free” tier for uploads which could’ve been kept at 10 mins or w/e and rate limited, while offering paid tiers for longer, higher quality/fidelity content , and larger bandwidth buckets before rate limiting which could help offset YTs costs, as well as temper expectations of what it means to create and watch.

Heck, there could even be a paid tier for viewers that could even allow viewers to watch “free” uploads without being limited, and the viewer would be supporting as well.

Yes, that means that large scale, Mr. Beast style productions would be a lot less feasible, but I feel like it’s not just the platform that being enshittified, but also the amount of aspiring creators who’ve also come out of the woodwork copying or re-uploading other creators content in hopes of getting blessed by the algorithm for a free payout.

I know these are 2 separate issues, and the ship has sailed long ago, but I can’t help but feel like this whole business model is being done wrong from a sustainability perspective.

[Enshittification intensifies]

Imma start subscribing to the RSS feeds of torrents made for specific channels before i watch ads.

If youtube wants to make their website so hostile its easier to get better versions of youtube videos without YouTube then those games will be played.

Honestly, I've kind of always wondered why they didn't just do this. It's always seemed like the obvious thing to me.

I mean, I hope it doesn't work, because screw Google, but I'm still surprised it took them this long to try it.

When Twitch this I rented a VPS in Russia that costs me $3 a month. I now route all my traffic through it and have no ads in Twitch (and im assuming YT too now?)

If YouTube offered premium without music for a discounted price I'd probably be willing to pay for it. But I just want no ads, not a bunch of bundled stuff.

I just want the Temu ads to stop

I'm surprised it took them so incredibly long to crack down on adblockers.

I'm really getting the push I need to finally get rid of the last couple Google services I still use

Seeing as these ads will be targeted and of varying length, I wonder if a SponsorBlock-like extension with the ability to accept training data from users to help identify ads.

The Plex server application has a feature which scrubs videos and identifies intros so you can skip them like you can on Netflix. Wouldn’t it be sort of like that?

Seems like a good use of AI/ML.

YouTube alternatives?

I'm really curious if they can make video injection of ads cost effective.

It feels like mangeling video streams into one, potentially re-encoding the video as they go... sounds expensive

Well it sounds more scary than it realistically will be.

YouTube must pass to the player the metadata of where the ads start/end. Why? Because they need to be unskippable/unseekable/etc. If the metadata is there it is possible to force the seek 🤷‍♂️

Just matter of time

The best adblocker is to stop using youtube 🤣

So AdGuard works on the YouTube website. I haven't been there for some time - I use 2 other methods to watch YouTube ad-free.

1. Newpipe - Android app that works by parsing the website, will probably be affected?
2. YouTube Kodi add-on - works with Google YouTube API, I was wondering when this loophole is going to be plugged..

Anyone with knowledge of the matter care to comment? So far my YouTube watching is still ad-free.

I also run pi-hole in front of my WiFi. Nothing gets through. Or will it?

I noticed some podcasts these days have random server injected ads - usually the same ad repeated 2 or 3 times, is this going to be my video stream soon?

The fact that they can do expensive, on-the-fly video processing like this, and still make a profit, proves that video hosting costs are not an insurmountable barrier for the open-source internet. We need to make hardware accelerated peertube ubiquitous, and get creators to move over.

The arms race continues.

On my phone I use youtube revanced and adguard dns, kiwi browser with ublock origin. On my PC I use just ublock origin. So far** I havent run into issues

MythTV solved this long ago. We already have the tech to bypass this shit.

I've been getting around it by setting my frontend to use an embed request, that way YouTube thinks it's a third party embed and the ad injection doesn't work. I've also in the past geospoofed to Russia and that works to block ads too.

The battle goes on and on.

I read about some sucker that paid for YouTube premium and still got ads in his pause screen. Lol.

Crowdsourced "tagging" of the affected area of the video timeline (like Sponsorblock) would fix this, unless Google get really devious and randomize the placement of the ad for various users.

It's like Alphabet hate guaranteed money.

"How can we boost the next six months of investment for sake of stable income over the next decade?"

"More ads. Studies show everyone with internet access fucking loves them."

*Brilliant! Welcome to entry level lower senior-ish management, Jenkins."

"YESSSSS! I can't wait to tell the family about this when I'm on leave from this wonderfully accommodating work campus. All hail, G."

"All hail, G."

now I need to move away from Telegram & YouTube at the same time.. oef

Happy I left google 90% and I am trying to leave the services that I cannot change my email or require a Google account

Wouldn't that technology make them easy to rewind fast-forward?

reply to me with youtube URLs videos, channels or playlists that you find interesting.

Ive been archiving for years and this looks like it may be the final clean batch I can produce. Feel free to specify other tags that may be useful and I will add them.

Huh? Hasn't Youtube been doing this for like 10 years?

Quick! Everyone! Hurry up and climb over one another to proclaim your hatred for YouTube and their practices so that you can have more time to go watch more YouTube videos!

😆

Can I ask why people act like YouTube is so evil for trying to make money off their site? They provide a service I value and it costs money to do so. No disrespect to anyone who doesn't want to watch ads or pay (like I do, I use it a LOT) but I don't understand why some people seem to be personally insulted by the idea that they can't get it for free forever with no strings attached.

Honest question, please don't flame me 🙏

Sponsor Block Addon does it fine.

However I have bigger complains for my Firefox cannot handle most videos anymore. Affected are those with many ads. It starts with a still image and if I don't quit the video within 10 seconds, my desktop environment crashes, bouncing me back to the login screen. 💩