Only 35% of Americans trust the US judicial system. This is catastrophic
Only 35% of Americans trust the US judicial system. This is catastrophic
American confidence in the courts has hit a record low across party lines. This is worrying – if not surprising
Summary
Trust in the U.S. judicial system has hit a record low, with only 35% of Americans expressing confidence, according to Gallup.
Criticism centers on the Supreme Court’s conservative majority, accused of advancing right-wing agendas, eroding rights like abortion access, and lacking accountability.
This judicial capture, orchestrated by conservative groups like the Federalist Society, ensures Republican dominance in key policies for decades, regardless of future elections.
Democrats just pardoned a judge selling kids to jails for cash. I understand he was old, but he should have died in jail from covid, those kids had their lives sold like slaves, we fought a war over people owning slaves for just cash - prison is a form of slavery, but theoretically it should only be used as punishment for guilty, so innocents going to prison is literally an unregulated slave trade. This isn't a "Republican" issue. This is Democrats too. When was the last time you heard about a rich kid getting the same treatment as a poor kid? Or when was the last time you heard about any judge selling warrants to innocent peoples homes, lives, and existences, in order to have the police/feds go searching for illegal material they HOPE is maybe there. If you haven't yet, you will. Pay real close attention to the ethics of judges over the next 5yrs, they are poised to anchor themselves as an unelected ruling class, not just stuffy bastards that don't have touch with the real world, let alone can get their heads far enough out of their ass their nose might get cold. If AI is good for one thing, its replacing judges. End of story. Then, if AI is programmed with hundreds of years of precedent, and each law is coded in to be applied equally, then and only then can we hope the rich bastard drunk driving gets the same as Jo Bob. An that the courts aren't just a playground for the 1% to pay a fee for their crime, while we face cold hard reality. You want us in prison? You rich fucks will be standing right next to us, wearing the same pink jumper, and we hungry. If all the feds can do is investigate you hoping harrasment will get you to commit a crime, they already lost, they just haven't had their asses kicked on the side of the highway to prove it yet. Their 1% masters will be next.
This reads like an opinion piece and not an article .
The real article he based his opinion on is here
https://news.gallup.com/poll/653897/americans-pass-judgment-courts.aspx
It's always that same 30 to 35 percent and yet it's the immigrants they want to deport.
Democrats just pardoned a judge selling kids to jails for cash. I understand he was old, but he should have died in jail from covid, those kids had their lives sold live slaves, we fought a war over people owning slaves for just cash - prison is a form of slavery, but theoretically it should only be used as punishment for guilty, so innocents going to prison is literally an unregulated slave trade. This isn't a "Republican" issue. This is Democrats too. When was the last time you heard about a rich kid getting the same treatment as a poor kid? Or when was the last time you heard about any judge selling warrants to innocent peoples homes, lives, and existences, in order to have the police/feds go searching for illegal material they HOPE is maybe there. If you haven't yet, you will. Pay real close attention to the ethics of judges over the next 5yrs, they are poised to anchor themselves as an unelected ruling class, not just stuffy bastards that don't have touch with the real world, let alone can get their heads far enough out of their ass their nose might get cold. If AI is good for one thing, its replacing judges. End of story. Then, if AI is programmed with hundreds of years of precedent, and each law is coded in to be applied equally, then and only then can we hope the rich bastard drunk driving gets the same as Jo Bob. An that the courts aren't just a playground for the 1% to pay a fee for their crime, while we face cold hard reality. You want us in prison? You rich fucks will be standing right next to us, wearing the same pink jumper, and we hungry. If all the feds can do is investigate you hoping harrasment will get you to commit a crime, they already lost, they just haven't had their asses kicked on the side of the highway to prove it yet.
Why would I trust a branch of government who, amoung other things, said; president's rule like kings; money is speech; rulings from the 1600s supercede any modern day interpretation of law.
I wouldn't invite a person like this into my house non the less let them rule a branch of government.
Maybe catastrophic for democratic norms. But it's perrrrrrfect for fascists and their schemes.
That sounds bad indeed.
Comparison: over here in Estonia, out of the general population, 71% trust the courts (an increase from 55% as measured back in 2013). Out of lawyers, 88% trust the courts here. A bit north of here, in Finland, 83% of the population "think that the courts are independent or very independent" (I failed to find a direct question about trust).
I mean y'all also generally dont need to worry so much since if the courts do fuck up, you dont have to worry about being tortured, raped, and murdered in your prisons.
Thanks for the perspective!
Well, it’s kinda like they’ve given us every reason not to…
Luigi Mangione has a higher favorability than the US justice system.
That's where we're fucking at.
Trust in law enforcement has been plummeting for a long time too. Prosecutors are going to have a much harder time convincing a jury of much of anything.
Hence the popularity (on the corporate side, at least) of binding arbitration.
The US justice system has gone out of its way to make itself not trustworthy. It's surprising it's that high.
Well 3 of 9 judges supported putting in codified ethics I believe. So that means I'd think 33% of them were trustworthy. Throw in 2% for the people who answered, yes I trust them.. because they trust them to act in their own best interests, and we got to 35% haha
Blatant corruption, even in the highest court, will do that. Get Thomas out of there. Make Trump pay for his crimes. Otherwise, I guess it's plumbing time.
It’s not just Thomas, it’s Kavanaugh. Men who behave like rabid dogs around women are not emotionally, mentally, and societally stable enough to hold that position. Or shouldn’t be considered as such, but here we are.
Replace them with republicans if you must, either way, treating half the population as less should disqualify you. But it doesn’t, the fact that Trump ran and won on it proves as much.
It’s difficult to avoid states of learned helplessness, I think, when this is our system. I think that’s another piece of the Luigi effect. Breaking that mentality on a large scale. (That’s not an endorsement, it’s a recognition of the psychological impact of that day.)
There's at least 2 others worse than kavanaugh...
For the life of me I'm baffled that's it's as high as 35%
Did you see the popular vote?
Yeah I mean that was about 30% of the population, so it tracks
Middle class and dumb peasants.
Dylan Roof kills 9 black people to start a race war. Luigi popped a CEO who was in charge or a system that killed thousands. Which one gets the terrorism charge and why? To send a message, so the serfs don't get uppity. Why would we trust the system? We all know the resources exist, but we still suffer and starve. Fuck the system and fuck the elites.
Dylan didn't have to be charged with terrorism to get the death penalty in SC. NY State law requires the terrorism charge to be able to sentence Luigi to the death penalty. It's precisely because Luigi didn't kill a bunch of people that they have to tack on the terrorism charge, but them being so bloodthirsty is very likely to backfire. They could have gotten the 2nd degree murder charge and life in prison, but it's gonna be damn near impossible to find 12 people that will convict beyond a reasonable doubt on terrorism.
Sure it highlights how bloodthirsty these ghouls at the top are, but it may not work for them the way they want it to.
Dylan is currently on death row. Waste of taxpayer money if you ask me. Life in prison with no chance of parole is cheaper by multiple factors.
The terrorism charge also brings his motivation front and center. If it was a 2nd degree murder only, they might have been able to suppress a lot of discussion about UnitedHealth for being irrelevant and prejudicial. But now they not only have to discuss it, but they have to allow the defense to respond to it. If they aren't careful, this could easily open the door to a jury nullification strategy.
They'll find the 12 jurors they need. If they don't I'm sure they'll have at least 1 that will insist on guilty to make it a hung jury, then it's unlimited do-overs
i trust them to not have our best interest at heart
When you have judges accepting cash for kids 35% seems outrageously high.
And Biden pardoning said “kids for cash” folks when they are actually held to account.
Won't trust it until Trump is in a cell.
There's two justice systems. There's two classes. Until this bullshit ends, it's the same as it ever was.
Supreme Court.
Trump.
Now split this data out by income and you’ll get a much different set of data.
30% lost faith when we prosecuted Trump.
35% lost faith when Trump walked.
Seems to track to me!
yeah, different parties. But Luigi appeals to both party's constituents, so during his prosecution the judiciary is at an extra disadvantage. I imagine the government will try to use some sort of secret closed to the public terrorism court for this so they can eliminate the trial of his peers aspect of it. I'd bet real money on it right now, actually
I was trying to understand why they laid a terrorism charge, since it raises Luigi's profile when obviously they want to sweep him under the rug. I think you're on to something here.
That's my concern and my guess as to why he's been charged with terrorism.
The Supreme Court is corrupted, so every court in the country is corrupted
Catastrophic? I see nothing to indicate they care if they're trusted or that there are ramifications for not being so.
Well, the ramifications is more vigilantism. Trust in the justice system is a requirement for people to assume justice will be done through that system. When people no longer trust it then they seek alternative methods.
Where have those 35% been? It’s been demonstrated rather publicly and blatantly that only power and money matters.
You know how Lincoln said you can fool some of the people all of the time? We now know what percentage.
Marley?
Hard to trust something that is not set up or built to work for or protect you.
Only? I'm shocked that it's that high
Every poll has 30% who have unfathomably odd views. Maybe a statistician could explain this phenomenon, but I wonder whether it's just a constant subset of the population who don't pay any attention at all to news or politics and are basically guessing.
I’ll trust the system a bit more after Luigi is acquitted.
Don't hold your breath. They've thrown terrorism enhancements on his fucking charges.
The dead guy was the terrorist. I am far from the only person who thinks so. It takes but one person to play ball during jury selection to ruin the state’s case. Perhaps, at long last, the people will reassert their power over the state.
I know this is all about optics, but I'm sure for all the people who have had to deal with the criminal justice system they also know how shitty it is. 91% of cases result in a guilty plea, 7% end up in some sort of dismissal and only 2% actually go to trial. The system is built to make being guilty the easiest choice, and your lawyer will do everything in their power to get you to take it
The guardian are corporate shills. This is a GOOD thing. If Luigi wins, that’s precedence. Time to pop some brass.*
* brass, meaning c-suite
