Hamas enjoyed popular support for precisely those reasons in the early 2000s. Many Palestinians viewed them as extremist, but capable at building things like school systems and mutual aid societies without the baggage and corruption of the PLO/FataH.
Two million people on an area half the size of Hamburg with no possibility of trading goods or services. Good luck building anything under such circumstances.
But Hamas is famous for their social services they provide in Gaza? I guess this lib didn't mean that kind of civil society, he means they should open a small business or some shit. Regardless why bother building anything when Israel will just blow it up once you are done?
I think you're confusing which country you're talking about, let me fix this for you:
Imagine if Zelenskyy government used their power to create a thriving Ukrainian civil society, fight corruption, or benefit people to show the path to a successful Ukrainian state
Instead we get kidnappings and throats getting slit on film
Revenge for WHAT exactly? Doesn't someone have to be wronged in the first place in order for them to seek revenge? What was the wrongful act against them, Zionist?
99% of people with Ukraine flags in their display name or PFP have had some form of fantasy about what will happen to Russian soldiers or Russia as a whole.
Time isn't a thing to these people. They only see the immediate story put in front of them and think they're nuanced enough to not see bias. Without questioning why this is making the news in more places than the the events leading up to this.
with what resources exactly? Israel literally just steals Palestinian tax money, what the fuck are the Palestinians supposed to build their society with, hopes and dreams?
They spent decades trying every possible way to get a deal or some kind of accommodation that would let them live and build something, and all it ever got them was more settlers and more death. Shit, it wasn't that long ago that they tried a Ghandi style peaceful march to the ghetto walls , the Israeli's shot 8000+ of them and the world hardly noticed.
I took a long time to get to this point. Conditions have to become completely intolerable before the average person decides that a fight against jets, drone swarms and automated machine guns is preferable to life under occupation.
imagine if hamas built schools and hospitals and ran apartments for gazans so they can be housed and then imagine if isreal bombed and sabotaged these things
Oh look, it's that youtuber twat that just got back from doing war tourism in Ukraine. What a shock he has a fucking garbage take on this.
create a thriving Palestinian civil society, fight corruption, or benefit people to show the path of a successful Palestinian state
Yeah they'd have a great and productive time of that with israel actively colonizing and killing them the whole time.
The shitlib pseudo-leftists of north america and europe can only support marginalized and downtrodden people on the condition that they remain marginalized and downtrodden.
When the world's underdogs actually show teeth, when they snarl, and especially when they bite, these fucking worms feel that existential fear shoot up their ass, and they remember who they really identify with: the colonizer, the settler, the racist oppressor, the side that deserves to lose everything and die violently.
yeah fuck this person's shit. i'm choosing not to seek out the fucked up images/videos but war is hell and modern media/internet exposes things that were previously kept sanitized.
when a Palestinian apartment building is vaporized full of women and children we just don't get to see it go down
yeah true. or just swallow whatever propaganda is spoon fed to them about how it was a hamas hideout or those women and children were making bombs or some shit
omg so true bestie although I wonder if there are any inherent impediments to creating a thriving Palestinian society when living under constant occupation and regular blockade
"The status quo is good, even when it means some people become victims of genocide, thats a necessary evil."
"The world is also a just one where the power of friendship and the free market can get you anywhere no matter what."
"Ergo, when the victims of genocide fight back, they are always worse than their oppressors because they shouldve just economically developed bro."
DYELan (Legohead) burns
Technically the removal of Israel from existence is a prerequisite for Palestinian "civil society" to thrive. Its like doing a cancer treatment program without removing the tumor via chemo. These neoliberals just want a genocide of browns/poors and do mental gymnastics this way and that to conceal their hideous intentions. Evil, brainless pieces of shit, the lot of them.
Remember seeing some videos from this dweeb a few years ago when he was basically a nobody but had some fans on /r/breadtube that posted him. His arguments were shit then and they're somehow even worse now. Pretty sure he was in Ukraine doing "reporting" at some point as well getting led around like a tourist.