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‘There is no intel’: Trump’s attacks on Iran were based on vibes, sources say

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'There Is No Intel': Trump's Attacks on Iran Were Based on Vibes, Sources Say

Following Trump’s attacks on Iran, an admin official tells Rolling Stone, “The intelligence assessments have not really changed”

After Donald Trump’s decision to strike three Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday, administration officials are barely bothering to pretend the unprecedented — and potentially calamitous — attacks were motivated by new intelligence suggesting Iran was on the brink of having nuclear weapons.

Just months ago, Trump’s Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified to Congress, in her opening statement, that the U.S. intel community “continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon” and had not reauthorized its nuclear weapons program.

While Trump recently publicly disputed Gabbard’s testimony, according to two administration officials with knowledge of internal deliberations in recent weeks, the president’s decision to strike was not driven by any new U.S. intelligence on Iran.

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Israel asked him to do it
- Seemed pretty obvious that Bibi wanted Trump to win and intentionally stalled Gaza ceasefire agreements to make Biden/Harris look bad.
  This may have been Trump returning his end of the bargain (or Trump is just a shortsighted and stupid piece of shit).
  
  Bibi's got kompromat on him, Epstein may have been Mossad
  
  Well Biden/Harris could have pulled the plug for doing that. Instead they let Netanyahu publicly humiliate them by defying any requests, knowing they would send more weapons as a reward.
  
  Seemed pretty obvious that Bibi wanted Trump to win and intentionally stalled Gaza ceasefire agreements to make Biden/Harris look bad.
  And biden/harris fell for it. they looked weak and complicit because they're democrats and that's their brand.
  
  It can be both. And yes bibi did not stop the ceasfire, I believe trump requested not be stopped to let him win
- Probably to pull the spotlight off them killing a bunch of people in their beds while they were sleeping
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassinations_of_Iranian_nuclear_scientists
  https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-iranian-nuclear-scientists-killed-225846643.html
- Told
- He’s trying to get ahead of a mob and call it a parade.
  See how his last one went to figure out how this will go.
- "asked". I'm beginning to think it is a lot more direct than that.
It’s interesting to note that Biden didn’t bomb Iran.
- Or Obama.
  
  So many missed opportunities for O-bomb-a jokes
  
  He only bombed Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. With Iran he only flew over illegally to bomb the other places.
  
  Or Bush.
- This is the Democratiic parties election platform 2024 (see P82/P83):
  Through aggressive diplomacy backed by U.S. military power, the Administration has worked alongside our allies and partners to deter and defend against Iran and its terrorist surrogates. President Biden has postured U.S. military forces in the region and authorized precision airstrikes on key Iranian-linked targets tied to attacks against U.S. troops to deter further aggression by Iran. President Biden has also continued to protect the American people from terrorism, authorizing military strikes that took out ISIS emirs and the leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri. In response to brazen attacks by Iranian-linked Houthi forces against international commercial shipping, U.S. naval vessels in the Red Sea, and Israel, President Biden ordered military strikes, alongside key allies, against Houthi targets and organized Operation Prosperity Guardian, a coalition of more than 20 nations committed to defending international shipping and deterring Houthi attacks.
  When Iran launched more than 300 missiles and drones against Israel in April 2024, President Biden led an unprecedented defensive coalition – together with partners from Europe and across the Middle East – to defeat the attack, protect Israel, and stop the spread of a wider war. Through direct defensive action by the U.S. military and its partners, Iranian munitions did not cause significant damage, demonstrating both America’s ironclad commitment to the security of Israel and our unrivaled ability to leverage growing regional integration among U.S. partners to counter Iranian aggression.
  All of this stands in sharp contrast to Trump's fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility.
  They are literally calling Trump "weak" for not engaging militarily enough. There is no indication Biden would not have jumped at the first order from Netanyahu to do his bidding, like he did all the years before.
- It's almost like the former presidents didn't think it was a good idea.
- Did netanyahu tell him to?
But women are "too emotional" to be president. Fucking hell, just choke on hamberder already.
The Intel probably came in the form of a new deposit clearing in Trump’s bank account
- Who uses bank accounts anymore? They probably bought a bunch of $TRUMP. Doesn't every US President have their own private currency?
  
  Antiquities scholars of some future alien race thumbing through hard drives like Roman coins
They were based on Trump being pissed that his little birthday parade was humiliating.
- "maybe my military parade sucked because I haven't actually started a war yet"
What a year, first we got vibe coding and now vibe bombing... I wonder what's next
- Don't forget about the vibe-based deportations
  
  We've had vibe-based rape for ages. "She says no, but she clearly wants it"
- Hopefully vibe-heart attack.
  
  I'm not religious, but please GOD MAKE THIS HAPPEN
You thought vibe coding was bad? Welcome to the age of vibe bombing...
- Siri, bomb a middle eastern country.
  
  this wouldn't work
  it's 'hey siri'
- Vibe-running the world is the new hotness
- Well, Trump has been an LLM all along, because attention is all he needs.
  
  A Russian and Israeli LLM
"There is no intel" describes the entire regime
- It describes the past 30 years of the USA's Middle East policy. At least it's consistent?
They weren't based on vibes, they were based on orders. Trump's foreign handlers told him what to do and he did it.
- But he was elected based on vibes 🥲
Vranyo.
You know I’m lying, and I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know, but I go ahead with a straight face, and you nod seriously and take notes.
The bald faced lies are like the final insult. Even during the lead up to Iraq they made a show of trying to fake intelligence enough to suit their goals. Now it's just, fuck it we ball, and say whatever, who cares, and who cares if they know we're lying, they can't do anything about it.
- I’m mildly surprised the Trump leaning press is not claiming that Iran is friendly with monstrous tentacled aliens , and that is why, sadly there must be more war, to save earth..
  Many would just believe it
  
  You leave the pastafarians out of this. FSM did nothing wrong!
There is no intelligence in the whole administration, we know.
Why not use the full word? "There is no intelligence" is much more apt.
Vibe waring.
- It's better if Cursor does it
- Aurora farming.
vibe coding and now vibe warmongering
- Ten bucks says Grok told him to do it.
- I guess we're slowly entering the stellaris timeline. It's terrifying
Really nice knowing that Nuke country #1 is governed by absolute senile murderous freaks for over at least 10 years now
“Source: literally my ass”
Vibe Warfare. Where Skynet doesn't have control of the military, but everyone does what it says anyway.
Iran's theocratic regime aside (which the US is largely responsible for creating), why exactly are the US (and a handful of other countries) somehow more worthy of having nukes than others?
It's some bullshit if you ask me.
The question of "do we really want X country having nukes?" seems to come off as: "it's okay for country Y (the US) to have nukes".
I for one, am not a fan of anyone having nukes, but if we're not planning on getting that number to zero, not sure how it's justified to say a certain country doesn't deserve them, other than maybe North Korea who are completely unhinged, but how can we draw the line? The USA is literally just committing acts of war because they've unilaterally decided that Iran has nukes, without evidence, and that means they're justified in doing pre-emptive strikes.
I don't think any country is ever justified in pre-emptively striking another without extremely strong evidence.
I'm thoroughly unconvinced that any war the US has fought other than World War II has been justified.
FTFY: the president’s decision to strike was not driven by ~~any new U.S.~~ intelligence ~~on Iran~~.
Oh FFS. We will know this orange fucker doesnt pay attention in any intel meetings he actual attends. And he can’t read the intel reports. He just makes everything up from what he sees on Fox News and the other conservative “news” networks.
Ship Trump to Iran and let them do what they will
- How about making that "Deport Trump to Iran and tell their president this is the asshole who gave the order to attack the nuclear facilities in your country, and then leave them and get the hell out of there while leaving them to do whatever the hell they want with him"
  
  I mean I think they know….
Who does he think he is? A Bush family member? /jk
I mean, if Israel has nukes, and Iran has nukes, that should lead to peace, right? But peace isn't what Israel is after. This isn't about peace. It's about eliminating all that think and look different.
Maybe the CIA can initiate another coup…ffs.
- He gutted the CIA, at the behest of putin
Wasn't the picture of 1970s Iranian women (dressed like US 1970s women) just floating around a couple months along with the attached comment stating "pictures of places before Muslim rule floating around means the US is about to bomb them" or does that just happen every year
- Iran was a liberal democracy before the US helped topple it and install the Ayatollah.
  The US is complicit in all the violence they did to their people.
  
  Not quite. It was a liberal democracy until the US helped topple it and install the Shah, who was then toppled by Khomeini.
- Those pics are always floating around. Means nothing.
  
  Yeah I swear it gets post every 4 days.
the president’s decision to strike was not driven by ~~any new U.S.~~ intelligence ~~on Iran~~.
FTFY.
There's certainly no intelligence to be found anywhere in the Trump administration.
His whole life is based on his gut feeling and mood
I’ll bet the decision had something to do with trump’s massive ego.
o ok that makes it ok then nvm my furious outrage. gj buddy.
"I'm going to need someone to go over the vibe code. Looks like the vibe drones are unable to capture controller input, and thus unable to engage in vibe strikes."

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