When I had braces as a kid, my mum would hit me with a wooden spoon in the mouth, because the braces would cut my cheeks and wouldn't leave a visible mark. Corporal punishment is never about punishment, it's about cruelty and adults unable to control their temper and violent impulses towards those who can't fight back.
should only be used on adults who think they should be allowed to hit children
useless.
Useless and fucked up
Thoughts on hitting small defenseless vulnerable humans who are still developing?
Not only is it cruel, it also makes children fear their parents
Should be illegal and considered child abuse
It is in my country
Same, but that law is not enforced at all.
I think there has been some cases with American evangelical psychos living in Norway being very butthurt and very loud because Norwegian authorities takes child abuse seriously and stepped in to protect their children.
I'm 32 fucking years old and I still don't know how to cope with panic attacks without yelling at or hitting things. It's humiliating.
And in hindsight I'm pretty sure Dad was the exact same way. Just passed down the family.
As a person who's father had some anger management issues and I'm pretty sure some of that I inherited/learned as a kid, this isn't exactly what most people mean by corporal punishment.
Though, if we were in a position where we'd get to decide on applying corporal punishment and what that would look like, depending on our mood it would definitely not make things better.
I got whooped as a kid and I turned out alright!
(THE DEMONS IN MY BRAIN YEARN FOR ESCAPE. AHHHGAGAHAHEHEHHFFUCKKKK)
Yeah, I turned out alright.
I don't see a need for it
Lenin banned it for a reason
I think Corporals need to get punished if they break the rules. People of higher ranks need to be held accountable to the rules just like lower rank soldiers. I'm in favor of general punishment as well.
Hate it. Pretty sure its why I dont like to be touched, or be physically close, hugs, etc., among other things I struggle with, like mental health.
If I ever see my dad again I'm going to beat the dogshit out of him 😊 what goes around comes around 🤷🏿♂️
Researchwise, it can be as effective as other disciplinary choices in preventing behaviour but has a higher chance of trauma, hatred of parents etc. So there's no real reason to keep it in a parents toolbox. Ethically, no. Kids are still people, just inexperienced and vulnerable and largely unable to care for themselves. If you consider other people who fill that category, we don't want to build a society where we treat those people like that.
Reflecting on the circumstances where corporal punishment was meted out to me and other kids I knew, it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you'd want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community.
I wish. I remember reading the manifesto and then looking further into the communist views on family, and I feel like communism clicked so hard so fast for me, because it reflected the views I already had, which helped prune my defeatism from existing in an uncaring world into wishing to fight for what the world can be, as proven by AES countries.
it was usually when a parent was disrespected or humiliated by their child, or the parent was in a tense situation and angered by the child somehow. This sort of reactive behaviour is not what you’d want even if you did believe corporal punishment was valid
This, so much this- either that, or they'd just be taking out their frustrations from life on their kids. A lot of people do that.
My ideal model of parenting is where the community raises a child and the onus is less on an individual parent but rather the community. This would also mean (possibly) that a child is less of a source of pride and denigration to one parent, reducing a source of that reactive behaviour.
Marx's call for the abolition of the bourgeois family comes to mind. Children all too often are still treated as property, and exploited, abused, and controlled as such, even in the west.
Unfortunately, I feel like this is one of those things that would change quite slowly post-revolution
No excuse for it with kids, shouldn't be used against adults either.
Probably not great and shouldn't be encouraged.
I don't see a good argument for it needing to exist.
Kids these days just don't know discipline... back in my day we used to get beat up by our parents and I could beat my wife no questions asked... tired of this Vladimir Marxist bull shit... I can fart whenever I want... but I need to find a bathroom before shitting... land of the free... yeah right
Nah fr though, should be considered abuse deadass. Negative impacts all around. Everyone here touched on it all already. Don't mean to make light of it
Found Caleb Maupin's account
Back in the 1990's when they made it illegal for parents to assault their children in my country, the far right was pissing and moaning about it, calling it "a monstrously socialist law" and warning about anarchy.
The ban passed and no normal people felt any desire to go back to the barbarism of the past. The far right then began changing their opinion from "we want to hurt children" over "hurting children was fine when we were just white people but now that we have all these Muslims here we have to ban it because they're so violent and they can't control themselves" to "we don't hit our children here which proves how much more civilised we are".
It's CSA.
I'm intrigued by your answer, I feel like you have some articles to share.
"And spanking IS sexual abuse.
"While the buttocks is not a sexual organ, it is a sexual part of the body, similar to women’s breasts. Children are not sexually mature, but that does not mean they are incapable of feeling sexual sensations. Spanking can greatly interfere with a child’s sexual development, modesty, and their understanding of bodily autonomy. Spanking an adult would be considered a sexual offense and it should be the same for children.".
This is just an opinion piece. I read a much better piece about it before, but I'm having trouble tracking it down.
I don't necessarily agree that spanking is always sexual abuse, but there are accepted practices in modern evangelical Christianity centered around spanking that very much are.
Sorry to disappoint. I'm just giving my thoughts.
The only time I ever got slapped by my parents and felt justified was the time I crossed the busy street running like it was just a funny game.
We need more incorporeal punishments. Take the rod to Thatcher's ghost.
It's strange to me that in America it is still fairly common in school environments. I've been majoring in secondary ed and the only thing I've heard about corporal punishment is how it does not work and there are decades of research proving that it does not work. Discipline should be used with children but hitting is not discipline.
I'm willing to accept that it may be necessary, but I also think it is overused. IMO it should be a last resort.
