John McWhorter: Columbia protests are not peaceful because there's a drum being beaten
John McWhorter: Columbia protests are not peaceful because there's a drum being beaten
I do not believe that the Columbia demonstrators are driven by antisemitism, but their actions have gone way too far.
Last Thursday, in the music humanities class I teach at Columbia University, two students were giving an in-class presentation on the composer John Cage. His most famous piece is “4’33”,” which directs us to listen in silence to surrounding noise for exactly that period of time.
I had to tell the students we could not listen to that piece that afternoon, because the surrounding noise would have been not birds or people walking by in the hallway, but infuriated chanting from protesters outside the building. Lately that noise has been almost continuous during the day and into the evening, including lusty chanting of “From the river to the sea.”
I did some easy googling and it's likely that John Cage would have wanted students to listen that way: “The powers-that-be have become more and more repellent,” he said in 1966. "Look at us in Vietnam. It is indefensible.”
Back to McWhorter:
I thought about what would have happened if protesters were instead chanting anti-Black slogans, or even something like “D.E.I. has got to die,” to the same “Sound Off” tune that “From the river to the sea” has been adapted to. They would have lasted roughly five minutes before masses of students shouted them down and drove them off the campus. Chants like that would have been condemned as a grave rupture of civilized exchange, heralded as threatening resegregation and branded as a form of violence. I’d wager that most of the student protesters against the Gaza War would view them that way, in fact. Why do so many people think that weekslong campus protests against not just the war in Gaza but Israel’s very existence are nevertheless permissible?
And what if John McWhorter were not a professor of linguistics, but actually a professor of cannibalism? That'd be pretty fucked up. What if, instead of writing books about language, he wrote books about how to cook and eat babies?
Favorite part:
The other night I watched a dad coming from the protest with his little girl, giving a good hard few final snaps on the drum he was carrying, nodding at her in crisp salute, percussing his perspective into her little mind. This is not peaceful.
I thought about what would have happened if protesters were instead chanting anti-Black slogans, or even something like “D.E.I. has got to die,”
What if, instead of being against bad things, the students were against good things? Really makes u think
What if, instead, they chanted "I like lemon merengue pie"? Then that protest would be absolutely nonsensical. Really makes you think.
If you think John Cage would not want you to listen to 4'33" while there's chanting and marching going on outside, you know absolutely nothing about John Cage. He would consider that one of the best renditions of 4'33" ever played.
I thought about what would have happened if protesters were instead chanting anti-Black slogans
This is the only retort libs ever have to defend their position. "I know my position is reprehensible, but what if instead hypothetically my opponents were the ones doing something cartoonishly evil?"
What instead of calmly speaking to me you were screaming and punching me with fists?
Or even more accurate to the times we live in: what if it wasn't just some tweet on the internet but something you shouted at me five inches from my face?
Swear to God the internet has broken so many brains
just the absolutely most fragile people, thinking drumming is oppressive psychological coercion:
I watched a dad coming from the protest with his little girl, giving a good hard few final snaps on the drum he was carrying, nodding at her in crisp salute, percussing his perspective into her little mind. This is not peaceful.
This is actually entirely peaceful?? This is a thing my husband did with our kid when he was very little, and he has a deep appreciation for rhythm (and human rights) to this day. He used to fall asleep to metal music, he fucking loves that shit.
Drumming is magically peaceful! What a fucking idiot of a fascist.
McWhorter is an ”anti-woke” dipshit who thinks anti-racism is as bad as racism.
This guy wrote an article telling people to stop protesting the U.S. funded genocide so he can listen to fucking silence for 4 minutes???
L M F A O
We will not be silent, John
It's actually so he can listen to show tunes.
I thought about what would have happened if protesters were instead chanting anti-Black slogans, or even something like “D.E.I. has got to die,” to the same “Sound Off” tune that “From the river to the sea” has been adapted to.
Oh fuck off please, what a fucking whiny baby
McWhorter is another one of these people like Neil Degrasse Tyson, Steven Pinker and Sabine Hossenfelder, who are exceedingly knowledgeable in their fields but seem to think that that automatically makes them smart in other fields where they're not qualified to speak at all.
His podcast Lexicon Valley was one of the first podcasts I got hooked on years ago, and despite his weird obsession with obscure and annoying show tunes, it taught me so goddamn much about linguistics. His voice and cadence may be exactly what I think a bowtie would sound like if it could talk, but man could that guy make me rethink my conception of language.
I was disappointed when he handed the feed off to some other guys and just up and left, presumably to write "[controversial topic] is not what you think"-type essays for The Atlantic, or to be the conservative's favorite based lib talking head.
It's really fucking frustrating when a guy who shared so many insights that are still relevant to me as a language teacher decides to pivot and become a both-sideser turbo liberal who panders to whomever is willing to pay attention to and quote the smart linguistics professor man.
Sabine regularly shoves her entire foot in her mouth wrt physics by making huge, unjustified assertions and generally ignoring or completely misrepresenting any counter argument thrown her way. Anyone who was tangentially part of the physics community wasn't the least bit surprised by her YouTube absurdities.
He is supposedly the author of the book "Woke Racism" which has very predictable Amazon reviews. He seems to come across as an educated black guy giving libs permission to be angry about anti racism having "gone too far".
I don’t even know what to say about this lol. These fuckers are so out of touch
I understand this to a point. Pro-Palestinian rallies and events, of which there have been many here over the years, are not in and of themselves hostile to Jewish students, faculty and staff members. Disagreement will not always be a juice and cookies affair. However, the relentless assault of this current protest — daily, loud, louder, into the night and using ever-angrier rhetoric — is beyond what anyone should be expected to bear up under regardless of their whiteness, privilege or power.
“These protests are not anti-Semitic and I understand that protests will be provocative. But interrupting my music class is taking it too far and is akin to assault.”
I wonder if there are any other "relentless assaults" that might involve bombs and starvation that phrase might evoke
aaaand PRINT
40,000 dead
Why do so many people think that weekslong campus protests against not just the war in Europe but Nazi Germany’s very existence are nevertheless permissible?
All Atlantic contributors will go into the Atlantic.
the beating will continue until the genocide stops
I had to tell the students we could not listen to that piece that afternoon, because the surrounding noise would have been not birds or people walking by in the hallway, but infuriated chanting from protesters outside the building.
I can't believe the pro-palestine camp would be as uncivil as shudder birds chirping. I'm sorry, but I have no choice but to become a Zionist.
can somebody smarter than me explain why i or anybody who doesn't go to columbia should give a shit that they're protesting? like obviously it's bad the university is so pro-zionism and it's cool the kids are pro-palestine but students have no leverage over capital and in fact pay a fortune to be at university. why would the capitalists not just let them continue their tempest in a teapot? is it just to prevent protests from spreading into the working populace?
Death to America
why would the capitalists not just let them continue their tempest in a teapot?
Perhaps because Zionists have successfully hijacked the meaning of anti-Semitism to mean any sympathy with Palestine, and the administrators are reactively still terrified of being called anti-Semites.
Either that, or they recognize that the radicalization of university students is potentially explosive and has historically lead or contributed significantly to many revolutions. Of course this would require the administration to have a level-headed understanding of revolution, which I don't think any lib is capable of having.
I think it is to prevent solidarity fermenting between the future administrators of capital and empire and the oppressed; the administrators maintain and manage the operations of capital and empire.
In other words, If college students from an Ivy League - future leaders of industry and state -have solidarity with marginalized and oppressed groups beyond liberal handwringing sympathy, then their concerns echo with their contemporaries, middle aged elders, et cetera. Solidarity forms solidarity, and unrest threatens to create a mass movement. And unlike BLM or Occupy, this genocide in Palestine is impossible to coopt, diffuse, or deescalate from. It's obvious to people what this genocide is, even those that sympathize with Israel.
Alternatively, the focus on these students comes from a desire to deflect from the discovery of mass graves under hospitals in the Gaza strip.
i mean it's noteworthy that they're not just letting them continue. they've already sent in the cops to arrest everyone once. student protests contributed to the divestment from apartheid south africa, and these universities are deeply embedded in the arms industry. getting them to divest would be a major hit to the war machine.
but yes, the disproportionate focus on universities and not the genocide that they're actually protesting is a distraction.
The alternative is that none of these rich kids do anything and the bitches supporting genocide get to peacefully sleep at night and listen to their music. It may not do anything but why should they be at peace while they kill people? You don’t have to care, but zionists and centrist obviously do. They should be reminded that no one likes them.
Have you considered that the drum is antisemitic though?
Wasn't this same anti-drum argument made in like 1700?
This guy is dumb
Why do so many people think that weekslong campus protests against not just the war in Gaza but Israel’s very existence are nevertheless permissible?
ideology levels are off the charts
it's incredible to me that someone would write all this out, affix their name to it, and put it on a platform with international impact.
"protests on a college campus with drums are not peaceful" just incredible. this is the kind of bozo that absolutely inspired cultural revolution struggle sessions in academia. show me someone more deserving of a public humiliation.
Cut off a few of his fingers as punishment for writing this fucking shit
