Happens once per thread

Sounds like something a bot would say

Bots are using the narcissist's playbook: accuse others of your shenanigans.
- Sounds like something a bot would say
- bots evolving by projection, and you know what projects, MACHINES. its been in front of us all along.

Adding the Lemmy logo was really what this meme needed

Third times a charm.

This same idea was posted with this same meme template within the past day, right? I'm not having deja vu? I can't find it anywhere.
- In PoliticalMemes, but it was removed for not being political(?)

Kids these days and their AI accusations. Back in my day, we assumed people who disagreed with us were uninformed, stupid, or evil.

This is exactly what an AI would say.
i (Pepperidge Farms) remember
Hey now, we have a rich tradition of calling one another paid shills. That goes straight back to the colonial era. Don't sell it short.
"oh you listen to Iron Maiden? You clearly worship the devil!"
- "If you think metal fans are actually devil worshippers, you're stupid."
That's because we all know there are bot nets for sale and it would be incompence for political campaigns to not use them.

A classic

.ml
Of course lmao
- Would you prefer my hexbear or lemmgrad account?
- Tons of them infesting this thread
Or a "hive mind".

dead internet theory 2, electric boogaloo (solipsistic edition): i am the only real person on here
- Excuse me I'm the solipsist
- wrong im a real person.
  Ask me a question only a real person would know the answer to.

old reliable:

Funny, they said the same about .world!
- No no, .world has the power hungry admins/mods.
Damn .ml users! They ruined .ml!
I’ve always found that rhetoric hilarious because I’d say 95% of the users I block for being shitty are from sh.itjust.works
Not all ml users
- That's the joke lol.
  So many comments complaining about .ml users with no .ml users in sight

Don't normalize this shit.

Opposing viewpoints are fine. Disingenuous viewpoints that conveniently show the egregious fallacies of that viewpoint and ignore them when pointed out deserve all the criticism they get.

And we know what one specific viewpoint we're talking about. Lemmy is so deeply infested with it now with the exact same bend that it's a disgustingly obvious disinformation campaign and voter suppression tactic.

Again, don't normalize this shit.

And we know what one specific viewpoint we're talking about.
Dang it! I'm always out of the loop.
- As am I. I'm a bit curious as to which viewpoint they're discussing.
  I don't think it's bad for people to be somewhat suspicious of bots/misinformation campaigns that occur online. We do know they occur.
  That said, I believe we should still try to communicate on the various media platforms in the event that there is in fact a human behind the screen.
- They are either lying or deeply overexposed to only one portion of the platform lol. While a lot of it has to do with US electoral stuff, that is far from the only context I have seen bot accusations thrown around. Seen it on some gaming-related communities, some vegan places for some reason? It might be fair to say the mindset stems from the anger of the political subs but that’s just a guess. (:
And we know what one specific viewpoint we're talking about. Lemmy is so deeply infested with it now with the exact same bend that it's a disgustingly obvious disinformation campaign and voter suppression tactic.
You're doing the thing in the meme
Mfs never heard the word epistemology.
Sorry I legit don't know who you are talking about
The other important point to make:
It’s normal to view wild ideas like troves of automated users with some skepticism. But consider: Foreign entities would likely have a huge incentive to destabilize domestic elections. If you were them, and had plenty of spare personnel, and A.I. resources…what would you do?
- If I were Russia or China and I had the ability to influence US elections, I would try to stabilize the country. I'd want someone predictable who I can negotiate with and reasonably expect to have agreements last more than 4 years. This is what Putin said to Tucker, by the way, explaining why he'd prefer Biden over Trump, so that he can negotiate a lasting treaty. China, with all its economic ties to the US, would likely feel the same (though with all of Biden's jingoism and saber-rattling, I don't know that there's much difference from that perspective).
  Geopolitics is not a zero-sum game, and the world is more complex than moustache-twirling cartoon villains. Destabilizing the US means the most militarized country in the world acting completely unpredictably and lashing out randomly to distract from problems at home.
  Also, like, it's easy to make a bot but it's harder to make a bot that actually sounds like a human being and is able to make coherent arguments. Throwing around accusations based purely on a person's stance, even when the format isn't bot-like at all, is pure paranoia. It's just a way to categorically dismiss everything you disagree with without consideration.
  Also also, what about the US intelligence community? Surely they'd have both means and motive to influence political discussions, moreso on both than foreign governments. Why aren't you concerned about that? Or what about the possibility of corporations hiring people to say stuff? Wouldn't it be way easier for entities that are based on America who could hire Americans directly?
  It's really a nonsense belief that falls apart under scrutiny. But what it really is is a symbolic belief. It's obviously not true but by saying it you can performatively demonstrate your loyalty to the US government and hatred of the Other. There's no evidence for it and it's unfalsifiable.
~~People disagree with me~~ Lemmy is deeply infested!!!
You would enjoy reddit.com a lot more than this place. How about some r/worldnews?
Wait what
Disingenuous viewpoints that conveniently show the egregious fallacies of that viewpoint and ignore them when pointed out deserve all the criticism they get.
Nice try, Russia. But I'm not falling for it.
And we know what one specific viewpoint we’re talking about.
turns to the camera conspiratorially
Big wink
Giant thumb pointed at Joe Biden
Large okay symbol with other hand
Thumbs up with penis

I can't blame people for thinking others are bots, especially when they make cookie cutter comments identical to so many others in nature and content. We live in a world where people have invented bots which mimic human writing to a degree of accuracy most cannot tell apart from real humans. Some of us are bots, get used to it.

I definitely get why, but people have been paranoid of interacting with bots, shills or astroturfers for as long as the internet exists. Calling someone either of these without asking to elaborate on their comment is just adding to the polarisation and intolerance of our platforms.
Often when I try to talk to people with wildly different opinions they just come back with those insults because "who can ever disagree with my opinion? They must be trolling."
So I definitely blame people for jumping to the wrong conclusions.
- Yes there needs that be at least a little blame lmao. Cuz the corollary of “everyone that isn’t agreeing with me is [bot, troll, shill]” is that everyone that isn’t agreeing with you may be rightfully treated with spite and abuse.
  Which is generally… not good.
Man, this is the best bot genetated comment i've read in a while. Which software did they use?
- EatMyAIss™
...what if we're all bots and we just don't know it yet? 😶
- That's call Simulation Theory. It unfortunately isn't useful as a theory because the nature of your existence compared to one that is more or less real doesn't have any impact on subjective value of reality or have any effect on decision-making.
You make a valid point about the increasing difficulty in distinguishing between human and bot-generated content. The rise of sophisticated AI has indeed blurred these lines. However, it's important to remember that not all similar or "cookie cutter" comments are the work of bots. Human behavior, especially online, often tends to follow patterns and trends, leading to similar expressions of opinion or emotion.
While it's wise to remain cautious and aware of the presence of bots, we shouldn't jump to conclusions too quickly. Engaging thoughtfully and asking questions can help clarify whether we're interacting with a person or a bot. Ultimately, fostering genuine connections and critical thinking are key in navigating this digital landscape.
- TBH I don't know if the risks of being an incorrect independently thinking human outweighs the risks of being manipulated by bots. Skepticism seems better of the available options. Sorry if that hurts some people's feelings, but this is the internet.
So... is our broken non-native English an advantage now (because one can tell we are real people)? Nice.
- Nah, if your English is good, you're a bot, if it's bad, you're a foreign agent.
Chatgpt is improving so fast. Damm

Don't forget to block them so that you never hear an opposing view again!

Honestly I don't see all this hade and intolerance here on lemmy.world and i've been around since last year. Can you give me some context?

Actual context because the other comment (e: the prettybunnys one) is clearly showing some bias:
!politicalmemes@lemmy.world is constantly in turmoil against itself regarding some US electoral stuff. About once per thread (no joke) an argument gets to a point where one person accuses the other of not being human because they just can't fathom how different their positions are. This also spreads to other communities but I generally find !politicalmemes to be the primary source. (e: This also is common on .ml communities unless I am mistaken. I just am not exposed to that much since my instance does not federate with .ml.)
(Disclaimer: while funny, don't do this kind of attack without real evidence; it's generally frowned on by mods as uncivil.)
- Politics turns nice people into assholes real quick.
- Really? That is kind of pleasing to hear to be honest. I only ever encountered echochamber comments any of the times I went on any political thread here, one sided anchoring and confirmation bias, so I stopped. I'm kind of happy to hear that there are multiple perspectives being discussed at all. Neat.
It's pretty much limited to the Political and Israel/Palestine related subs IMO.
Things can get heated in certain threads.
- Mostly your thread and threads made as a reaction to your threads
Context:
People with overt bias and deliberate messaging are being called out for it.
Those people make posts like this.
- had to scroll quite a bit to find this perspective. I’m on politics all the time, there really are a handful of “bad actors” who follow a clear agenda. yet I’ve never seen this “ur bot” response just thrown around haphazardly, rather directed at that very same handful of disingenuous propaganda posters.

There are no bots on the internet.

HAHA, AGREED FELLOW HUMAN!
Yes we are all definitely humans who enjoy human activities like breathing oxygen
- Yes, I enjoy the texture of oxygen so much
:[Agreed 🤖👍🏻]:

Hey now! Some are probably Russian/Chinese troll farms!

No need for that "probably"

All opinions different from mine are wrong.

Many opinions the same as mine are right, but for the wrong reasons.

there is only one opinion, all of the other opinions about everything else are wrong. Only this one is correct.

Don't worry, i won't tell you what opinion i'm talking about, because that would be another opinion, and it would be wrong, on account of the other one being the only correct one.

Fine, I'll say it. Doritos and peanut butter go well together.
- INFIDEL
- they did say it, whether or not this is the opinion, i cannot confirm, but this is definitely one of the opinions.
It's not our job to educate you people who don't know.
- who is "you people" in this case?

Welcome to the Internet.

have a look around

That’s the internet as a whole sadly

Oh cool another bot post.

I disagree you

I've seen post activity from a certain users from a specific group / social circle on lemmy thats way to similar

Either it's one person with a lot of alts or a coordinated effort by a group of people though with alts you can make yourself appear to be a bigger if you're one person alone

I thought Id get away from the group think when I left reddit. It's probably worse here.

Yeah, it feels WAY worse for me. It's like an extreme version of a filter bubble.
- It feels way worse. Definitely agree.

Found the bot

real

Or ban them from the community outright.

I am the only person I've seen on the internet therefore everything is just bots

Facts.

I mean, on the one hand, absolutely.
But on the other, there are legit a lot of fucking bots everywhere.
I do see engagements that go on for a dozen replies, with links and snark and sleights at the weight of the other's mom, and then at the very tail end of that we get a "Nice Try Russian Computer Program, but I'm not falling for it!" That feels a bit like cope.

Who's the bot? Me? Or you?

YOOOOOOO

Hmm…this sounds like something that better fits on a site with R in its name. I find Lemmy pretty tolerant and diverse, in my experience.

You'd think, but after that man vs bear thing I realized this place can be just as bad. Some instances are tolerant, but other seem to be more combative and less tolerant. The only benefit here is that I can block the less tolerant instances and people more easily.
- I wonder if that's not cherry picking because the man v bear argument was literally designed to initiate controversy and discussion, it's a very polarizing question.
People downvoting this, only because they disagree... But I guess, however dumb it is, it does proves the comment wrong, .