AMD has been taking so many W's, they're just giving them away

GPU prices being affordable is definitely not a priority of AMD's. They price everything to be barely competitive with the Nvidia equivalent. 10-15% cheaper for comparable raster performance but far worse RT performance and no DLSS.

Which is odd because back when AMD was in a similar performance deficit on the CPU front (Zen 1, Zen+, and Zen 2), AMD had absolutely no qualms or (public) reservations about pricing their CPUs where they needed to be. They were the value kings on that front, which is exactly what they needed to be at the time. They need that with GPUs and just refuse to go there. They follow Nvidia's pricing lead.

AMD's your friend now, but they're only undercutting NVIDIA like this to get on top of the market. Once they've done that, it will be NVIDIA doing the undercutting, and AMD will be the one clamping down and exploiting their position.

It has happened time and time again.

Don't simp for corporations. They'll never return the favour.

There is no doubt that AMD is a better company than NVIDIA in OSS terms.

But don't simp for a company, vote with your wallet and always look for the best and consumer friendly product.

For now, not gonna lie AMD is pretty rad, but I hope next generation Intel GPUs are competitive.

AMD's had some buggy drivers and misleading graphs, but they're overall infinitely more consumer-friendly than Nvidia

AMD is the only real option for those of us using Linux. Nvidia's weirdnesses regularly fill up support tickets on Linux forums it's not even funny

Big corps are not your friend, but as a wise man once said, fuck Nvidia 🖕

Am I having a stroke, or does that actually say "here's the our source code"?

That is what you have to do if you're behind the competition. Don't think they'll keep this up for long if they happen to be the industry leader.

As an AMD fanboy, I approve of this.

And now, for a serious note: been running linux daily for almost 20 years and AMD machines are, per my personal experience, always smoother to install, run and maintain.

Keen to see how FSR3 ends up looking, if it comes within decent parity to DLSS3 it's going to be amazing, considering it's hardware agnostic so theoretically console devs can use it to boost framerates.

I just bought my first Nvidia card since the TNT2. Up to today I always looked for the most FPS for the money.

This time my focus was on energy efficiency, and the AMD cards suck at the moment. 4070 about 200w, 6800 about 300w. AMD really has to fix that.

Regarding DLSS: I activated it in control, and it looks... off? Edges seem unsharp, not all the time, but often, sometimes only for a second, sometimes longer. I believe it is the only game I have that has support for it, but I'm not impressed.

At OP: Brand loyality is the worst. Neither Nvidia nor AMD like you. Get the best value for your money.

Btw, Nvidia needed an account to let me use their driver. Holy shit, that's fucked up!

We've come a long, long way, baby.

I'm still using my EVGA GeForce 1070. When it's time to upgrade, I'm going with AMD.

Corporations aren't your friend.

My rig is full AMD (5800x/5700xt), but that's purely because they happened to be the better value at the time. The second they get a lead in the consumer GPU market (which they likely will since nvidia simply doesn't care about it vs the ML market now) prices are going to rise again.

And don't pretend that these prices are anything resembling affordable. That would be when you could get a legitimately mid-range card for ~$150 (rx580).

AMD has been great and all buy their prices are NOT affordable. They've been jaking up their prices like everyone else in the last years. Don't paint them as the heroes.

I like AMD but they're still overpriced, nothing compelling in the $200-300 range since 5600 XT and RX 580, and I keep hearing stories about unoptimized drivers (can't confirm myself cause I'm still on 5600 XT with mostly older games). They're the lesser of two evils, but they're far from chad-doge behavior at this point.

I am super happy with my 7950X3D. However, their GPU drivers still need some work for the 7900XTX.

Have I just had bad luck with my AMD products?
I've had four Nvidia GPU/Intel CPU computers with no issues.
I've had three AMD GPU/AMD CPU computers and they all have been loud and hot and slightly unstable. A bit cheaper sure, but I rather have a silent and stable experience.
This has made me see amd as the inferior lowbudget crap. But maybe I have just bought from the wrong manufacturer or something.

Where I can find the source?

As far as I searched what is free software is the Vulkan implementation that runs on top of the intrinsic GPU and drivers (that have DRM and no source code).

The intrinsic GPU drivers on the kernel are still close source. So basically AMD and NVIDIA are the same. They both have source for some engines implementation but both kernel drivers are close source.

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/

amdgpu is a blob.

I'm missing something?

My problem when buying my last GPU is that AMD's answer to CUDA, ROCm, was just miles behind and not really supported on their consumer GPUs. From what I se now that has changed for the better, but it's still hard to trust when CUDA is so dominant and mature. I don't want to reward NVIDIA, but I want to use my GPU for some deep learning projects too and don't really have a choice at the moment.

I have read many of the comments in the thread, but there is a very basic question I hope someone can help me with: what does the OP even mean?

I know what AMD is and what they do, but "taking W's"? And "giving them away"?

I get it, however when I'm paying $1000+ for a GPU, I want the best for my money now. Not take part in some bigger than me ploy to even out companies.

Government regulations > a few people buying a worse GPU

The current gen consoles having pretty weak raytracing will play for AMD quite a bit here. It means that games can't demand anything higher than a PS5 can do, and since AMD provide that then their stuff will still do for modern PC games.

The frame generation is a red herring in my book. A quick look at a few videos shows similar artifacts to what my 4K TV made if you leave the awful motion smoothing settings on. 40-50fps with VRR is a much better "make the poorly optimised game playable" goal.

i can't encode my video with amd gpu, this is why i stay with nvidia and his Nvenc. When amd will propose this kind of use, maybe i will change my gpu

*peek

I’m sorry, is a $1000 now cheap for gpu? I remember when an 80 series cost $500 and it felt expensive.

I'll never go for Nvidia ever again.

I've been a Linux only user for over twenty years now and Nvidia is the fucking devil. Their drivers range in quality anywhere from "ugh" to "wtf!" and my current Nvidia card (it's a loan) gives me continuous screen artifacts and kwin (screen manager) crashes. AMD drivers just work.

RIP cheems

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They're open sourcing them so I can finally fix the audio bug my Lenovo Ideapad 14API gets on any drivers above 21.8.1. Maybe. Idk shit about software. But i know this is good

I wish AMD offered solid hardware ray tracing... Nvidia has a near-total monopoly on GPU rendering workstations, because there's simply no competition.

Thought I was on !linuxmemes@lemmy.world for a second

The fact is DLSS is really good and weird naming convention aside DLSS 3.5 (which works on all RTX cards, unlike DLSS 3) looks fantastic.

I bought my last two cards solely for DLSS support and unless AMD steps up my next card will likely be Nvidia as well.

Which License?

In a somewhat related note. Would anyone be able to recommend a upgrade/sidegrade option to go amd over my 3080ti? Just been meaning to be done with Nvidia

Intel does the same thing with drivers

Nvidia is only now catching up

I recently bought a used Titan xp and found out it doesn't support DLSS, but much weaker and only 2 years newer 2060 supports it

Amd has been a shitshownof a company since their beginning. Don’t believe they wouldn’t be gouging if they could.

Still everyone uses Nvidia and everything has better Nvidia support than AMD. I love AMD but not being able to use my oculus connected to my PC without screen tear is pretty annoying :/

Wait, does this mean the adrenaline software is finally out for linux? Can we undervolt/set fan curves now? The interfaceless free driver is so freaking noisy with my gpu.

This is a super hefty dose of copium.

AMD has never been a serious competitor. They might have been the choice on a few SKUs through the years but they produce trash compared to Nvidia.

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