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Version 0.19 Upgrade - Done!

[Update - March 3rd 2024 , 21:14 CET]

The update seems to have worked well. The database migration took some time, but after that it looks everything works as far as we tested. Let us know what you think! And if you like our work, check the donations links in the sidebar ;-)

(As you might notice, the new comments are shown YELLOW, that's not a bug, it's apparently a new feature in Lemmy...)

Hey everyone,

We wanted to announce that we will be attempting to upgrade Lemmy.World to version 0.19.3 on Sunday. The update will start at 2024-03-03 1900 UTC and should hopefully take no more than 2 hours. In the event there are issues, we will roll back to 0.18.5. In the event of a roll back, any data created by users will be lost, so we'll try our best to avoid this!

Hopefully downtime should be minimal <3

During the upgrade, please feel free to make yourself at home on our Matrix and Discord chat rooms.

Lemmy.World Pub

Matrix

Please follow Lemmy.World (@LemmyWorld@mastodon.world) - Mastodon for updates.

As usual, status can be tracked by visiting https://dash.lemmy.world and https://status.lemmy.world

Thanks for your patience in waiting for us. Stability is king for us!

-LW Tech Group

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For those out of the loop, 0.19 brings nice features to Lemmy World like:
Unbroken ampersands (&) in titles.
Improved 2-factor authentication, which will disable it for those using it, so you'll want to reenable it after the upgrade. I think in turn this may sign people out, so be sure you still have your login info around, and if things are acting kinda odd, maybe clear your cache.
Scaled sorting to help surface less active communities.
Instance blocking via user settings, so if there's an instance you don't enjoy seeing communities from, you can block them. This does not block all users from said instance.
Import/export account settings, which includes your bio & various settings like show/hide bot accounts/NSFW content, default sort settings, etc., subbed communities, saved posts/comments, and blocked users/communities/instances.
- Scaled sorting is gonna be huge I think. Really looking forward to that
  
  You can try it out on other instances right now, but really the effect it will have on Lemmy as a whole when applied to its biggest instance is the exciting thing.
- Finally instance blocking, goodbye politics
  
  goodbye lemmynsfw, with its' somehow constant stream of different types of kinks showing up in hot no matter how many communities I block from it 🙈
- Afaik this should also fix the linking to deleted comments, if anyone else cares.
  
  And eating html in code blocks
  And sometimes not resolving Lemmy links
  And many other broken things
  
  I'm not familiar with that one, what was going on with it?
- Unbroken ampersands? I thought it was just me! 🤡
- Thank you for the points. Sums up the upgrade nicely.
- Just there are new bugs and issues but they can be easily fixex
- Unbroken ampersands? hallelujah
- And at the risk of being repetitive, the 'Prev' button goes MIA.
  Hey...I use it.
- Users will have to login again or only those using 2-factor authentication? Thanks!
  
  All users will have to login again, 2FA was completely reset, so people who were locked out are now back in.

I just want to tell you both good luck.
We're all counting on you.
- No pressure, then 😂.

If this doesn’t go well I’ll be pursuing a refund.
- How exactly does one refund time spent shit posting on the toilet?
  
  Put that shit back where it came from

- Maybe we could tune the emotion chip a bit.

Hi
Pls check how much traffic you're now sending out for every activity - my server is recording that everything from lemmy.world is being 4 times (e.g. 1 Upvote is sent 4 times to every instance that has a subscriber. Those instances will reject 3 of them for being dupes, but it's still a lot to be sending out).
lemmy.ca had a problem where they were sending everything 3 times, and it was because they were running 3 containers, and they all had the same index number, so maybe it's that.
Thanks.
- Thanks. This made us find out that we misconfigured it. I have now changed the configuration, hope it works.
  
  Edit: FYI, I opened the Lemmy Matrix and see that you were already discussing the the dbzer0 admin
  Hello Ruud,
  Thank you for your work on LW.
  Kind of hijacking this thread, but are you aware that 19 instances seem to be constantly lagging behind? https://phiresky.github.io/lemmy-federation-state/site?domain=lemmy.world
  Among them
  lemmy.dbzer0.com
  lemmy.sdfeu.org
  reddthat.com
  lemmy.nz
  lemdro.id
  slrpnk.net
  I usually use Reddthat, but used this account to make sure that this would go through.
  Slight ping to @Rooki@lemmy.world as they commented on the previous comment
- We will look into this!

What am I supposed to do with my free time in the meantime, do you expect me to talk to people in real life??
- No need to talk to people in real life. You can use another lemmy instance temporarily.
  
  Oh thank God, I was worried there for a second.
  
  Where shall we all flee to in the meantime?
- Sleep or masturbate?
  
  https://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif
  
  In case anyone needs a reminder
- Review the git commit history and see if there are new features not listed above that may interest you.
  /S
- You can do as @aeharding said, or check out the links in the OP for the Matrix (and Discord I guess) servers :)

Hold on to your butts...
Good luck on your updates. Thanks for all your work. Raise a glass

In the event of a roll back, any data created by users will be lost, (...)
You mean to say : "any data created for these few hours" ...right ? ...Right ?
- YES! During the upgrade window ONLY 😅. Our DR plan is pretty tight, some great DBA's on staff. (Ex Ruud)
  
  Except Ruud? Seems ruud
  
  Thank you for clarifying, I was rather concerned about your processes if a rollback would lose all data hahaha
- No, they mean any data created by users.
  User data created outside those few hours? Lost.
  User data on other Lemmy instances? Lost.
  User data on other Fediverse platforms? Also lost.
  User data on non-Fediverse platforms? Believe it or not, lost.

Good luck - I had no trouble upgrading Feddit.dk to 0.19.3, hope you have a similar experience :)

A local time converter for 2024-03-03T19:00Z
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20240303T19

It looks like the front hasn't fallen off.
Edit: context for those not aware - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM . The front section of a oil tanker fell off and it started leaking crude oil into the ocean off perth and it caught fire.
The two actors are comedians who (then) regularly did send ups of politicians in the last few minutes broadcast each week on an otherwise serious news show.
- That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.

Best of luck and thank you for everything you do!
- TY 🥰

Welp goodbye LiftOff. Hope it ends up getting updated in the future
- Mine also stopped working. What's the alternative?
  
  Voyager ;)
  
  Sync seems to work. Unless you don't see this message then perhaps not
- Oh so that's why it's buggered! Bugger..

Good luck, boss.

We wanted to announce that we will be attempting to upgrade Lemmy.World to version 0.19.3 on Saturday.
I don't regularly deal with converting between timezones but I'm unable to figure out whether this upgrade is happening on Saturday or Sunday. My calendar shows March 3rd as being Sunday.
- Yeah it's Sunday. Someone hasn't had their coffee yet it seems. :-)
  
  Thanks for clarifying! Hope the upgrade goes smoothly :)
- Sorry, I wrote that at midnight last night 😅 It's Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY.
  
  I'll pay for the whole seat BUT ONLY NEED THE EDGE!
- Leap week.

I'm curious about lemmy.world server upgrades. How do you test something like this? Do you upgrade a private staging server and run scripts that simulate user interaction at scale, or is it more like "fuck it, v.73.9.0.367.12.42.0.9 looks safe enough, just deploy it on production"? I'm trying to think of how you would handle any kind of maintenence for something as massive as lemmy.world, and it makes my brain hurt. Frick.
Best of luck with the upgrade tomorrow, gang!
- We do try it ( if possible ) everything out on our dev instance. The automation and upgrading.

Greatly appreciate the 2FA improvement! I can finally enable it now without locking myself out, which happened every time I tried to enable it previously.
However, in true Fediverse fashion, they've made it 122.6% more complicated than it needs to be. Why contain all of the relevant information in a button pointing to a highly specific protocol? I had to manually copy and paste the button's URL into Notepad++ and cut the parts I needed from it. Why not just give the secret or a QR code like literally every other implementation of 2FA that has ever existed? I've never seen such a button before on any other website when I wanted to switch on 2FA, even on Mastodon they use a QR code and/or the secret key.
And no backup codes? 🤔
I sound like a complainy complainer, but I'm genuinely happy/grateful I could enable 2FA. I'm just a n00b who worries about people even n00bier than I am trying to figure it out.
Cheers!
- The fact 2FA has been reset should be bold and center of this announcement. Many won't notice that 2FA wasn't requested on their next sign-in and will be less secure as a result.

"So this is it," said Arthur, "We are going to die."

You mean Imma have to get a life for a whole two hours? Maybe even more??
- sh.itjust.works Managed to finish in only 27 minutes which was much sooner than the estimated time. Lemmy.world might finish quickly too, estimated time is just a maximum, it isn't always going to be the amount of time it will take.
  
  It will take surely minimum 1 hour for us probably just because the database migrations and moving our automation.
- It's tragic, I have nowhere else to go for that long. And the alternative is to socialize? 😥 I'd rather have a third wank.
  
  But where do you find the material for that?
  
  You could completely fuck up your sleep schedule so that you're sure to be sleeping during the update.
  Would only be a couple extra hours for me since my schedule is already so fucked. I'm considering it.
  
  Create an alt account on another instance.

Liftoff is dead because of this right? It is for me at least.
Oh well, voyager seems cool so maybe it's a win I was forced to try it.
- Liftoff hasn't been updated since July 2023, it doesn't look like this issue is getting fixed anytime soon. See https://github.com/liftoff-app/liftoff/issues/517
  
  Kinda surprising the dev just abandoned it without a word given it was so popular. You'd think they at least announce they're done. Wonder how long before it gets pulled from the Play Store.

Quiblr web app updated 😇
- oh, I love how that looks. Such a clean UI.
  
  You did not know about Quiblr? The BEST web ui of them all?
  
  Thank you! It’s been my passion side-project!

Oooh, excitement! 🤩

Thanks for all your hard work, LW team :)

Got logged out of both the browser and Sync. Logged back into both. Other than that everything seems fine.
🎉
- Same here
- Did sync tell you or did you have to manually log out and back in?
  
  Not op but pretty sure it told me. Being logged out was expected behaviour IIRC.
  
  I had a popup that my session expired. Logged back in, and all was good!
  
  Got a popup about my session expiring.
  Screenshot below:

I'm looking forward to it. I've actually been cutting back my Lemmy waiting for a the scaled sort. To keep my feed fresh, id been subscribed to mostly memes and I have been getting tired of it. It wiltbe nice to seey niche community getting more love from my feed at last

Let's hope for a smooth upgrade and many thanks to all of you making this possible to all of us users!
- We try because we're users like everyone else!

Thanks for your service. I enjoy it over here. Keep on with the good stuff!

Best of Luck! Really hoping this works out well so Voyager can move forward with deprecating the old auth method

Whoa, trippy. Your comments all have an orange-brown background?

edit: oh wow, mine too.
- Yeah its a lemmy thing now. Every comment that is younger than 5 minutes it shows like this
  
  Is there a way to change the color and/or transparency in the options? It's a bit... much.
  
  The hell?
  I don't get why comments younger than 5 minutes need highlighted in the first place...?
  If you're gonna highlight anything, it should just be new comments after a refresh, but if that highlight falls off after 5 minutes, what's the point?
- Those are "new" comments.
- I'm using the darkly-compact theme. I don't see this.

I am guessing this is why Liftoff is down?

Good luck lads.
🫡

let's goooo. golden age of lemmy here we come

Congratulations and good work! Thanks for all your efforts.

I was able to enable my 2FA now :-)

0.19 also introduced a /sitemap.xml endpoint, but it responds with a 404 on lemmy.world. 🤔
- Thanks for bringing it up, it works now :)
- I’m curious, what is the sitemap endpoint used for generally?
  
  Used by search engines for listing which pages should be indexed.
  Google's documentation

Exciting times, best of luck with the update!

Posts removed by a mod and by creator is still showing up. Before the update, they would disappear from the feed.
- Yeah thats good though, it means that if someone deletes their comment (or is removed by mod) the rest of the comment tree isn't nuked along with it.
  Lemmy could probably hide leaf node comments tho
  
  Good point.

oh man, this yellow highlight is literally the worst
- Someone should build a Lemmy client so we don't see that ugly colour anymore! And give it a StarTrekkie name!
  ;-)

Commenting from the latest version of Jerboa.
As far as I can tell so far the update went well. I was a little disappointed that I had to log back in again, old login token expired or whatever, but totally understandable.
- Same thing with Boost, logging back in fixed it.

eta: 27 minutes. The end is near!

Test comment
- Test recieved!

Good job, boss.

If it matters, tested out Scaled sorting across a couple different apps (Boost, Summit, Connect, Thunder). All working good.

I had to logout and login again on Boost for Lemmy because I was getting HTTP 401 when I tried to comment. But now it works 👍

On the login page, if your existing password is less than 10 characters, the password-validation script will not let you log in.
- I would recommend then to try "forget password"

Congratulations! 🎉

Looks like it worked!! Congratulations!!!

Think this fucked up the mod log tho
- How?
  
  Click the mod log button, a bunch of info is now missing.
  At least on a web client

Hi, all my bookmarks got totally messed up: I lost some bookmarks and for new bookmarks I never asked for.
This happens for instance on the "Traditional art" Community.
Could you please have a look?
Thanks
- Ps: On Android apps, this problem is fixed after logging out and logging in again
- Bookmarks?
  Are you talking about your saved posts?
  
  Yes

Woooooo!

It may be an issue with the app Memmy, but I now have a score of zero, not three thousand. It’s not a huge issue at all, just something I noticed.
- Those "scores" were just "accidentally" a feature, removed after 0.19

🫡
see you on the other side

What is the status regarding 0.19.5?

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