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Looking over the wikipedia page on this mushroom and all the similar, very edible ones...Yeah I'm never foraging mushrooms.
- Yeah, I carefully read the description of its distinguishing features, studied the photo, and concluded I have no idea what I'm looking at and how to tell them apart.
  
  I'm really good at spotting differences or inconsistencies, I'm totally lost with mushrooms though, and I go multiple times every Autumn with a woman in her 70's. She is very clear about what we are looking for. She throws out at least half of what I gather.
  
  Simple, just eat it and see.
  If you're dead, it's poisonous.
  If you are alive, you haven't eaten enough.
  
  This.
  I'll just trust the dealer.
  
  Mushroom lesson I did says that looking under the cap, spore color, what tree root system it’s growing in, can give you a really solid ID
- Is the main visual difference just the stem or whatever it's called being much longer?
  
  IIRC, the only definitive way to ID mushrooms is by making a spore print - and even then you need to know what you're doing.
  Just doesn't seem worth the risk to me.
  
  Lots of differences but the simplest one would be that button mushrooms would typically have color to their gills—depending on the species they usually start out pinkish or pale brown and move to dark brown as they get older. Destroying angel has pure white gills.
  But button mushrooms are actually not very beginner friendly despite their familiarity since there are other poisonous lookalikes in many areas.
- My wife wanted to take a foraging class and I pointed out all the similarities and said to her, if you don't want to buy mushrooms from the store, we can just grow them.

There are old mushroom foragers and then there are bold ones. There are no bold, old mushroom foragers.
- There are no bold, old mushroom foragers
  Sure there are, they just have to not eat what they picked up.
  Source: friend's mom once gave food poisoning to the whole family by serving them an omelet made with mushrooms she found, but didn't eat it herself. Fortunately it was merely mushrooms of the "fucks up your stomach" variety.
  
  "Once" has no effect on my statement. There are no Bold, Old mushroom foragers.
- Okay, Brown Ben Plumm.

Looks like a destroying angel (e.g. Amanita virosa) to me. This and the death cap together account for the vast majority of mushroom poisonings in the world. Cooking it will not destroy the toxins, nor will acid. Symptoms tend to appear 5-24 hours after eating, too late to pump the stomach. Half a mushroom can be enough to kill you.
I don't recommend going out to pick mushrooms unless you know what you're doing. If you do, stay away from the white ones. You can still get terrible stomach cramps and diarrhea from other colors of mushrooms, but the white ones have the most dangerous species.
- Easiest way to avoid problems I've heard is to never pick any mushroom with ribbed underside. If the underside looks like a sponge, it's usually safe to eat. At least where I'm from.
  
  Might be valid advice for some regions, I don't know. But mushrooms tend to vary quite a bit in appearance. Sometimes ribbed species don't have very visible ribs, or younger mushrooms don't quite have all the characteristics of their mature form. If you really want to get into picking mushrooms, there's often local groups you can join with a resident expert who can tell you which ones are safe.
  
  Easiest way to not die from bad mushrooms is to not eat them because they're fucking disgusting anyways
  
  Yeah, the sponge underside mushrooms are boletes, and I am not aware of any that are poisonous.
- What about a base?
  
  Not sure about this one, but acid resistance is pretty relevant because of the typical stomach environment. In general, amatoxins are just very stable and it's difficult to deactivate them.
  
  i don't think you want to eat it after that anyways.

I love fungi facts.
- This guy sees the most terrifying description of a toxin killing someone and goes "Yep, that's a fun mushroom facto"
  
  To be fair, that is basically what's to be expected from myshrooms
- Fungi are fascinating. Did you know that, if I'm recalling correctly, the largest living organism is a massive fungus?
  
  And reindeer are trained to follow the smell of human piss because they like tripping on amanita muscaria, which transfers its psychoactive compounds through urine.
  Wacky!
  
  It's not the shared root system tree in North America? I could totally see it being a mushroom.

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- Once.
  
  They said you die one or two days after eating. You could definitely eat more than once in that time.
  
  If you eat fast enough, maybe twice!
- Only once. ;)

My fucked up brain goes like, "woah, I wonder what death tastes like."
- Probably bitter and followed by a slow agonizing death by liver failure.
  
  As somebody who has been through liver failure and transplant, it really sucks. I do not recommend it.
  
  Wikipedia says the death cap tastes quite pleasing, reportedly.
- Saute in a pan with butter and garlic. Death will taste fabulous.
  
  That's cheating. Anything will taste great with butter and garlic.
  
  Little salt, little pepper. /~~chef's~~death's kiss
  
  And a tiny bit of white wine, and some salt. Freaking delicious.

2 mushrooms hard to fuck up in America.
Chicken of the Forest.
Morels.
I remember selling like 5 lbs of morels when I was a kid and getting like $200. That was without even driving to the city to make the real money.
- note that chicken of the woods may give about 50% of people horrible nausea for several hours
  
  Sure, if you're weak. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laetiporus
  It's not near 50% of people though.
- Chicken of the Woods is the shit!!!
- What, a wood pilz that is edible?
- There are also mushrooms that look like morels that you shouldn't eat. Somewhat easy to filter out if you know what you're looking for but maybe wouldn't say hard to fuck up.
  
  Can you show me some that would grow in the same areas next to dead elms? I'm unfamiliar with any and I've foraged for them a lot.
  E: Looks like this has some info on False Morels further below. I'd have a difficult time mistaking one for the other myself but eh?
  https://www.bhg.com/news/how-to-find-morel-mushrooms/
  https://www.thegreatmorel.com/false-morels/

I remember being on a wilderness weekend many years ago and being told that when you cut the stem on some poisonous shrooms they discolour a sort of blue tint. I'm lucky, I hate the taste and texture of mushrooms.
- I remember years ago reading you can tell if a mushroom is "magic" by blotting it on paper towel and seeing if it stains blue or purple. Unfortunately, that is also how many things say you can tell it's toxic. Maybe you'll trip balls. Maybe you'll die. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  
  Maybe you’ll trip balls and THEN die!
  
  I wouldn't be surprised if the poison and the psychoactive part are the same thing in different doses, or just function similarly.
- Mushroom haters unite!
  
  Those things scare me.
- Funny you say this, there is actually a mushroom that does this color change but is edible. Allegedly doesn’t taste very good, though.
  Best not to eat any wild mushrooms at all unless a verified mycologist can look at them first.
  
  Scarletina bolete apparently tastes relatively decent. I haven't tried it myself though.
- I hate every mushroom I have ever tried- except shiitake mushrooms, which don't taste like mushrooms and are amazing.
  
  I'm literally 100% the opposite. Give me some morels, porcini, lions mane... anything but shiitake.
  
  Does it grow in shiit? 😅

Adds this to the big list of horrible ways to die
- I wonder if it fits above or bellow the Demon Core.
  At least looks like this is quicker.
  
  I'll take deadly mushroom over radiation poisoning any day. Melted liver is better than melted skin.

Which mushroom is it then? 😱
- Destroying Angel
  
  Sounds safe and yummy!

Thank fuck I don't eat mushrooms

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Is blue sky "instance" just sub-domains of bsky.social ?!
- Usernames are subdomains on bsky
  
  I was confused as these two person are on different sub-domains of bsky.social (url after the @ symbol). Does this mean they are on different instance? AFAIK most mastodon server I see have different domain (specifically, different combination of top level domain and second level domian).
  EDIT: I see, theur user name is the subdomain, and things before @ is their display name. Not the most conventional system, but it makes sense.

Amanita phalloides, if I'm not mistaken?

Is Gemini using the same model as Lens?

Fun guy

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