An r/neoliberal user goes through the most horrific experience imaginable
An r/neoliberal user goes through the most horrific experience imaginable
I used to be like these types, and then I realized a lot of leftists, or more specifically Marxists base their entire political ideology off of theory that’s like 200 years old. Marx was writing at the peak of the Industrial Revolution probably when capitalism was in its most grotesque form (child labour, no regulations etc.) there’s no way in hell Marx could have ever imagined the complex world we live in today.
And also evolution is false because On the Origin of Species was written 200 years ago and there's no way Darwin could've accounted for all the complexities the molecular biology revolution revealed in trait heritability.
Also why do liberals like to pretend their own theory doesn't predate Marx by decades or centuries. Marx was literally building on top of existing liberal theory
They have guys like Hobbes, who died in 1679. They'll regularly quote Plato or Aristotle too. Ask them what western society is based on and they'll start saying nerd shit about the Manga Carta or ancient Rome. Liberals are so unserious
God can you imagine if we lived in a hellishly cruel and exploitative world of industrial genocides, child labor and deregulation, like in the dirty stinky past? Then those communists might have a point, haha
base their entire political ideology off of theory that’s like 200 years old
Meanwhile they base their ideology off of the prolonged vampire euphoria that ensued after the collapse of the Soviet Union and never let that go like some boomer nostalgic for that one winning touchdown that one time during the homecoming varsity game.
capitalism was in its most grotesque form (child labour, no regulations etc.)
The more advanced bazinga form of that outsources the grotesque to the poors in distant lands
the Pythagorean theorum is outdated because the ancient Greeks would have fainted in terror at the sight of a protractor
It's wild how the people who approach capitalism like it's a religion are able to sort of just state between the lines that there isn't child labor or how there supposedly are functioning regulations in global capitalism today. Completely ignoring the exploitation their neoliberal world order requires to maintain itself.
It's not that complex, they are calling it complex the same way they call the Middle East complex. Understanding it would require engaging with something that takes some work. And if we ask a lib if a lib will "lib or not to lib", the lib will always lib. Because it takes zero effort to keep on libbing.
Also child labor is still a thing in burgerland
All the people who post on reddit are pretty much just evil demons. They're aware of how things work. How could they not be when they're constantly saying "Pfft. All these MARXIST tankie McTankersons talking about value and workers and whatever. It's like, hey man, stop harshing the vibe!" They read the random paragraphs and instantly their brain sections it off so they can cope in real time. We all do it with information we don't want to internalize. Like horrifying news, whatever else. You read it, process it, "know it", but it's pushed off somewhere in your mind beyond real comprehension because it directly opposes your chosen beliefs.
Anyway, so that's one type of person basically beyond help. The posters who are open neolibs.
Heavily generalizing, I think there's two groups. The reddit demons and the "truly ignorants." And I don't mean ignorant of western, American, exploitation of China, etc. Everyone knows about that. Maybe they'll deny it, but, yeah. I mean those who know about it but sort of accept it because this is the life and world they born in to and they were told all along the way that the people of China, etc. must suffer in order for this world to keep existing. Or the implication was made clear anyway. Every single American knows it in their heart. So in that way, that they all know the truth, every single American is complicit in ongoing exploitation. And benefits from it. However, the part that I argue makes them truly ignorant is they were never told, of course, and never bothered to look much into it that... it doesn't have to be this way. It hasn't been this way for all that long historically. And this total outsourcing of labor has only become so ubiquitous since ~1970s.
Anyway, my only point here was yes you're right. They do ignore it. I don't know how many of them are doing Mr. Burns fingers while thinking about exploiting people to enrich capitalists, but it also doesn't matter. If you even lightly pay attention to "politics" even the sludge Americans call politics, there's no way to be a moral person and walk away with anything other than an anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and really, boiled down, broadly anti-USA as a nation outlook. All the excuses of "brainwashing" and such ring hollow to me when these "people" see children and other obvious innocents murdered by the thousands, even millions on the bigger timeline, and still support their own Nazi state. I was born and raised in the USA and I came to see it for exactly what it is. Someone else just as "online" and exposed to reality has no fucking excuse in my book.
These are probably the same people that smugly go "uhm whatabout Uighur slave labour? :smuglord: what about Muslims enslaving people? Heh didn't think so, tankie :smuglord: "
Something something "my life is good and if yours isnt its your fault"
Damn thats crazy how i don't buy stuff produced under the command of capitalists anymore, its a very different system cause they got flatscreens. Interestingly they only produce stuff that brings them profit, another mystery why they do that
just different i guess.If someone were to say this about their beloved constitution.... And why are they acting like we aren't facing climate crisis and potential overshoot?
Abruptly stand up and challenge the speaker to a debate. Your opening statement should be a 15-minute monologue that invokes your IQ, your depth of knowledge of Milton Friedman's literature, and your immunity to simple emotional appeals. Leave the ball in their court. But they'll simply be too stunned to respond with anything but silence and awe. They'll concede, and you will likely get a standing ovation and a few phone numbers.
Everyone clapped
15-minute monologue that invokes your IQ, your depth of knowledge of Milton Friedman's literature, and your immunity to simple emotional appeals
and you will likely get a standing ovation and a few phone numbers.
Which is why neoliberals in the same community advise each other to lie about their politics to try to get laid.
this has to be satire right? the invoking iq part cant be serious
The entire post is tagged as a meme.
Doing the John Galt speech irl and getting spitballs fired at you the entire time
https://archive.is/wip/dN7Lk Fresh archive of what needs to be a site tagline:
I just attended a Marxist lecture for extra credit and had to sit there while the guest condoned not voting, claimed Obama didn't end the war, and called the 2009 loans bailouts. Please make me feel better before I puke.
I'm not joking my more immediate coping mechanism was the catering provided so I had a lot of cookies.
the cookie catering is socialism, it's right there!
One of the top comments is telling OP to lie about their politics to sleep with people
They really do like Obama.
It often doesn’t work because they think idpol is all they need to be correct on and can’t be fucked to read enough theory so that they can bullshit through it
They want to screw leftists in more ways than one.
Count on neoliberals to start relationships with lying.
I just went to a lecture where the lecturer told me a bunch of true things I don't like and now I'm shaking and crying uncontrollably
You did it! You broke down CHUDs to their bare essentials!
Two top comments is how deep I'll let myself go, and both of them mention reading Dune, one of them as theory. Liberal injokes are lame.
I don't get it, Dune is a critique of everything they stand for.
Are the libs irony poisoned too, or just media illiterate?
a little bit of column A and a little bit of column BI think that it’s a “Bro it’s just a book/movie bro. Don’t take it seriously bro,” type of joke. See if you analysis media critically you’re a real nerd, just as dweeby as those leftists telling you to read theory. Don’t they get that theory is just books?
Dune is my favorite book of all time but some very credulous bazingas (and reactionary fash) get the worst possible conclusions from it.
Honestly I'd argue being open to feedback is the primary requirement to succeeding at...well most anything long-term. So it's not exactly a small difference
i think people of almost every political position like to flatter themselves by saying they're uniquely receptive to feedback and new information and therefore a superior critical thinker. like, saying it does not make it so.
Most "open office" corpo schemes have a "welcome feedback" policy that just determines who gets fired and who gets promoted based upon invisible court intrigue shit.
This is a thread about needing a coping mechanism because someone told them two factual statements about the Obama administration that they didn't like. We definitely get ahead of ourselves about this stuff too but NL is just page after page of
What war did Obama end/not end?
Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen
I imagine they're talking about Iraq? Which Obama eventually pulled out of past the timetable Bush set. And only after many successive parliamentary votes by the Iraqi people for the Americans to leave. And then during his second term it collapsed into another civil war and Obama went back to Iraq.
He waged 13 of them, so the choice is broad.
“The.” Oh you don’t know which war was “the”? Shame. Sounds like someone hasn’t been keeping up with their news.
Obviously, “the” war is the one most prominently covered by US media. The other ones are only sparkling wars.
/s
Vietnam.
That lecturer was actually me.
"They insulted Obama. OBAMA. please make me feel better and coddle my insecurities, reaffirm my biases plesae"
Actual adult children. neophyte brainage. how are these people real
They watch lots of treats that tell them that they are cool, calm, and collected pragmatic Adults In The Room that Make The Hard Decisions and Get Shit Done
They never have to experience humility because of their bubble of treatbrained privilege. Consequently, they go through life like edgy know-it-all teenagers, forever.
I'm glad I did kickboxing as a teen, the experience of having to keep a neutral face after getting beaten up in front of a crowd that includes your parents will humble a person.
How is Dune like scripture to these people? I don't get it.
I think it's an in joke satirizing leftists, but I really don't know
Oh ok. Seems pretty unserious because it makes no sense, but I suppose that fits too.
also curious
Dune is really most obvious message of "do not trust the prophets, tyrants, monarchs" but a lot of people don't get it and idolize figures like Leto or Muad'dib or Leto II. I mean, they are even named "Atreides" that had to be thickest hint ever. Even Frank Herbert himself was annoyed by them.
They had to see a homeless person?
Users of that subreddit would better serve the planet as fertiliser.
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