Yep it's down a lot. I think it's because it's just memes and also quite hard moderation and downvotes. It feels like a reddit clone that has the exact same mindset as reddit. I get annoyed when I see people being moderated for having an opinion that is not popular.
I saw a post being locked yesterday for asking about moderation. Doesn't anyone else see the problem with that? Your channels rules are not more important than making people feel they can talk and express what's on their mind.
I hate that so much. Stop treating people like they are just resources to moderate.
I don't see much discussions. But I'm sure there is a few here and there.
Yeah the aggressive mod removals on a platform that is starved for interaction is dumb as fuck. I haven’t had much of my stuff removed, but when someone replies to me and it’s removed before I can see what they said it irritates me to no end. Let dude make his shitty point so I can engage in toxic online dick wagging stupidity like I want to god damnit.
Voyager, at least, will still let you see deleted replies in your notifications — it's only tapping on them that will show they're deleted.
Turns out the shittest people from Reddit came here and became mods, who woulda thought lmaoooooooo
Accurate, except Lemmy mods are more the shittiest tankies/libs of Reddit. The vast majority of conservatives don't seem to have come here; probably to truth social, 4chan, and other established strongholds where they don't have to ever see opposing opinions.
I've been getting some flags to mod remove some stuff. I read them and look into each one, but I need a damn good reason to take action and I rarely see that. I see some stupid, but everyone has a right to that, or a bad day. There are lots of things I don't like or agree with, but only a terrible mod enforces their opinions or is unable to separate themselves from the role of a mod. A bad mod is a visible mod. Feel free to point them out. People can change, and admin should be made aware. Heck, if it is me, I want to know where to adjust my biases or how to better explain my actions.
IMO the "replicate reddit, but decentralized" approach will be the downfall of Lemmy. You sound like you're trying to do the right thing, but there is significantly more moderator centralization and authoritarianism on Lemmy than there was on early reddit. Most of the early reddit mods were people who genuinely had an interest or experience in that subs topic; not the tankie or excommunicated from elsewhere simply "domain squatting" dozens of popular community names and then dictating over them once they grew popular; trying to carve out their own personal safe space soap boxes. I have seen dozens of mods who'll debate someone and when they lose they just delete all of the opposing comments and ban the user they disagree with. Often they are the one and only mod of that community.
Users left Reddit because they didn't wanna have to deal with continued enshittification and unaccountable bad faith mods on a power trip. Lemmy only solved the former, and doubled down on the latter, while fragmenting users across numerous duplicate communities about the same topic; leading to significant post duplication amongst a sea of inactive duplicate communities.
If Lemmy doesn't solve its core issues I don't expect it to last long and will move elsewhere sooner than later. I feel like users should be able to join a group of communities about the same topic, and moderator control should be both diluted and distributed amongst them. As in, redistribute moderation across the user base by randomly showing a group of users a post/comment and using the average rather than relying on whoever created the sub to act in good faith. Decentralized services should be built as trustless/adversarial; expect and account for bad faith actors. I wouldn't have any problem being required to moderate a post/comment for every post/comment I make, I just don't want the responsibility of being a permanent mod, nor having to review every single thing myself.
I second that. If you express unpopular opinion in the most civilized way, engage in the discussion defending that opinion you will still get banned/downvoted because mod was in a bad mood. I've blocked many big communities because of that.
I think it's because it's just memes and also quite hard moderation and downvotes
Could this be specific to the American election?
I feel like I've seen more items in the moderation queue recently. I can't say I've had to act on more items though
I don't know, I guess it's possible. I just get so annoyed when posts are locked or removed entirely. There is rarely any reason for that except removing work from moderators. If we optimize for as little moderation as possible, I think it means that everyone remaining are just agreeing with eachother and the others left.
Feel free to report such behaviour on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I love the name. :)
It's also because there's sooo much dross and very little content.
Yeah because first of all, content had to be spread out across 562826 different communities for no reason other than that reddit had lots of communities, after growing for many many years. It started with just a few.
Then 99% of those were created on Lemmy.world, and every new user was directed to sign up at Lemmy.world.
I guess a lot of people here are younger than me and didn't experience forums, but we had like 30 forum channels. That was enough to talk about anything at all. And I believe it's the same here, it would have been enough. And then all channels would have easy to find content.
Yeah I always personally hated the idea of locking posts. Let people wage their war, every party can disengage at any moment.
If anything discussed is illegal or borderline, just start banning those who break those rules.
If someone has a shitty opinion, people can learn from the replies as to why it's shitty. Every stupid comment has the potential to teach.
I can only speak for myself:
I'm here, still reading and voting, but I haven't posted/commented as much recently.
Life got a bit busy, should be back to normal in a bit
The irony is that those those that aren't here can't answer why they left.
Mostly making sure I didn't miss some new drama thing or whatnot. Usually those have peripheral observers that will speak up. Friday nights (SoCal) are kinda hit or miss anyways, but we've been trending down a good bit recently.
Contrary to certain self-victimizing sentiments, I think that the problem is that the platform is more and more overtaken by the topic of the election (and Israel in reference thereto) and it just results in interminable arguing in circles that accomplishes nothing but wasting time. Regardless of the outcome of the election, I think less-annoying activity will increase afterwards.
A lot of users on here have an unhealthy obsession with bringing up awful events everywhere all the time - donating and raising awareness is good but turning every topic around to be about specific conflicts and political happenstance in a forum already saturated with that content isn't encouraging for other people to engage and probably isn't conducive to mental wellness either
The_piccard_manoeuvre is in holiday.
For me, life is happening and I just have less time
I've been wondering how much of that is back to school. I have the sense that Lemmy has a lot of younger users. I can't judge though as I've been inactive for long stretches due to life. I've been trying to contribute more now
I always get the impression the average user is a millennial
Well, my guess is people got depressed discussing who is the less genocidal candidate to govern the most military powerful country on Earth.
It feels like everything in All is about an election in the USA, and that's really not very engaging to the rest of us. So I mostly hang out in Local for the most part.
Eh, I usually just lurk, unless I have something meaningful to contribute (which is rare, my mind is blank and tired most of the time)
I'm trying to break my long habit of lurking, I'd like to see the platform grow so I help where I can
Don't worry, I'm still here
i'm glad you're here :3
federated platform splits userbase into a million little fiefdoms, only somewhat interconnected, all differently starved for interaction
Yup, checks out
Instances run like communities with communities more like hashtags seem fine.
Walking the dinosaur.
Was (not was) - Walk the dinosaur featured on the live action Flintstones movie.
Down down to goblin town.
Start of school breaks in some countries in Europe. Could have an impact as people are busy with their kids
i wonder how many ppl on lemmy have children
Life is full of cycles. I’m traveling these days but I’m still here.
Was immensely busy and focused to finish my university meanwhile trying to get bit of peace through reading books and gaming.
Also nowadays mainly use rss-feed for everything (Blogs, News, Reddit and Lemmy).
Depends on the instance. Hexbear, for example, is still quite active.
For me, there's just been less posted that I feel I have something to say on. If I see something about programming, networking or tech that I have (probably) some useful info to contribute I will do so. Likewise if there's a general subject I have anecdotal points to make, or I'm just genuinely interested I will comment too.
But otherwise, I just read and move on. There's been a lot more read and move on lately. Maybe because of the upcoming US election for which by and large beyond the fact I don't want the orange shitgibbon (As a fan of the west wing, I like that the spelling checker suggested shibboleth to correct this "typo") to win, I don't have much interest. Mostly because I'm not from the US.
Just not getting the interesting questions as often afaict.
People made too many power user praise posts and all 3 of them decided to take a break
Considerably less powerful users, rise up!
Also feel free to join !casualconversation@lemm.ee
Just for me personally - I've tried going back to traditional forums. It's irritating that when I sign up and contribute to a board a few times, I get a temp ban for potentially being a bot
Just left Reddit and noticed the same thing, sucks since I'm shadowbanned on Reddit, can't go back even if I wanted to.
Shii idk what u talkin about i deleted my old reddits and migrated fully 😁
The entire front page is filled with Trump sneezing. Psyop is too obvious.
I mean, it's the ml. People, including myself, have had very bad experiences in ml communities and what I've seen is a general consensus to avoid them. As I type this I even expect it to be removed or at least down voted to hell for daring to say this, as ml does. I can accept the community just isn't for me, but the question was asked.
What are you talking about? This is about overall activity.
There was no context given. They didn't say site or community. How do you know it's about overall activity? You seem to be assuming as much as I am.
Also you, you specially are actually big problem in the ml community. I've seen you interact with enough people who all seem to suspiciously be censored.... Hrmmm.... I've also heard plenty of people reference you. You personally have done a lot of damage to the ml community.
Edit: that might have been extreme in calling you out. I won't remove and try to hide it, but I apologize. To clarify, I've seen people who interact with you often been censored, which really discourages conversation, a big part of this platform.
