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From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.
- I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well
  
  And Russian and North Korea for some reason
- Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?
  
  100% just indoctrinated people, lemmy is too small to catch anyone's attention.
  
  Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.
  
  i really doubt any major organizations are paying for bots, at least not on lemmy. we're just not big enough methinks
  if there are any it's probably a smaller operation done by a few people max.
- yeah but there's tankies too, so it cancels out

Dude. The Russian propaganda flows freely around here.
- You don't have to interact with .ml instances, you know?
  
  If you think it's contained within one instance then you are the exact type of mark they are after.
- Dont worry, if you put propoganda of opposite polarity together they cancel eachother out. /s
  
  No no no. Propaganda is inherently Russian.
- I mean, freedom means all propaganda is welcome, so that should cancel out, right? Right?
- Unless you mean saying the truths that Ukrain is Fash, and that Ukraine is loosing and will lose is state funded propoganda (My bank account says otherwise) I do not know what you are talking about

does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that's what people really care about these days
(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption...)
- I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it's actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn't a big deal since the issues are only occasional.
- I haven't checked it out yet but "loops" is supposed to be that
- I don't understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can't get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that's the point..
  
  Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It's easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can't find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.
  
  I mean, that's just two different purposes of two different formats.
  Short form content is not made to be played in the background while you work, nor is it made for intricate and detailed analysis or essays. It's made to have something occupy your mind during short breaks like toilet or smoke break or while waiting for the bus or something.
  Long and short form content don't compete but compliment with each other. If you don't like one or the other, that's totally fine, then you're just not part of the target audience.

We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.
But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis' of alignments:
Impossible to place on left vs right.
Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
cannot align with a specific country's interests
How about this: "Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us"
- Impossible to place on left vs right
  Not possible unfortunately 😅
  What you've come up with there would be considered "left wing" 😂
  
  Ok, let's add some war hawking in there: A pro-colonialist stance in regards to invading Bouvet island.
- Sorry, but I cannot abide the Dutch
- lol the British flag in the bottom right
  
  After Brexit they just wanted to be part of something... anything.

Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.
That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me
- Depends heavily even then, but Lemmy is pretty okay as a community and I think it's been the most successful fediverse experience so far
- Not just right leaning people, but also centrists and people who aren't far enough left
  
  My god, where will the centrists turn to without lemmy :'(
- That's so sad. Anyway
- raises hand from a popular and politically agnostic instance
- Cool!

Linux propaganda 😎👉

I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)
The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.

Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance's admin and the only recourse you'll have is to join another one instead...
- "The only recourse you'll have" is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.
  
  And you're just jumping from one instance to another with admins that can censor you again and again. You create your own instance and other instances' admins can censor you by defederating from your own instance.
- That's pretty big recourse though.

The UX here needs to drastically improve for more people to see it as an viable alternative.
- I use Sync for mobile app and Photon for a web interface. But I think most people are not okay with having to search for these options.
  
  Exactly that yes, it took me a while to find Photon, and I'm someone that's passionate about tech and works in tech.
  Your average new user is going to give up long before that and never use the site again.
  It's also confusing to pick which instance to start with (users need to be guided more)
- I mean, the web UI looks clean enough for me. 🤷‍♂️
  
  For you yes, I'm also okay with it. Bit it's not great as smooth and nice as what the vast majority of people are used to

We got https://loops.video/ right?

We already have American censorship on the top ones, which will get worse once Project 2025 is enacted...

Crossposted to !fedimemes@feddit.uk

Seems like there's suddenly a lot of shills for other platforms here.
- There are no bots on Lemmy, bleep bloop.

For the average consumer it just isn't the same without being screwed by big companies.

I honestly don't think the fediverse will ever take off - and that's a good thing. If it was to get too mainstream, eventually it would need to be standardised and controllerd to accommodate the average person, which would defeat the point of the fediverse as a whole. Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken
- Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken
  That's like saying: "Imagine every country just got rid of monarchy became Republics"

The masses will always be attracted to the opiates offered them by those seeking to control them for greedy purposes.

Imagine the hacker news userbase getting drowned out by redditors and bots on a massive scale never seen before. Anybody coming back to the site will scoff at the idea of yet another board wasted by enshitification.
impractical, yes. But the point still stands.

You can still have your comment censored/removed.
I don't see how this is any different from Reddit

Fediverse: extremely USA-centric, extremely left and queer. Dissent is punished as hard as posting Winnie Pooh on TikTok.
- Downvotes hurt, I get it. But remember, it's only an attempt to remind you you're an asshole. It's up to you whether you believe them or not.
  
  How does that work here anyway? Is there a FAQ or something to explain? Do downvoted comments get hidden or pushed down?
  
  Meh, you're just building an echo chamber. Everyone around is of the same opinion, everything against is downvoted to hell, sometimes bans are handed out.
  And you are starting to believe you're normal and you're keeping your space clean of all the "assholes". But instead you're just way too far up your own ass most of the time.
  Your downvotes don't hurt. It's just sad that this ambitious project that could've easily replaced reddit, turned into a circle-jerk. The content and opinion-diversity on everything that's reachable from my current instance is approximately /r/antiwork. I could just go back and spend all my days browsing that one sub without any loss. But such pompous name "fediverse".
  You got nothing folks. Every community is about USA only and all the top posts are "trump bad", "capitalism bad." Like nothing else exists. You sabotaged yourselves. There's no fediverse. There are 20-40k people chanting together "fuck trump, fuck musk, fuck capitalism". On every instance, in every thread, on every topic.
  And you know what, I agree with all three. But even to me you look pathetic. And as my multiple tests confirm, you do not accept any disagreement, and you cannot brin any rational argument to the table, you can only echo.
- But it's not usually the people running the platform doing that. You can also find instances that go full on 4chan style freeze peach and only delete explicitly illegal stuff, but most of those are probably defederated from the big instances by now.
- Imagine wanting to exist without automatic persecution and being told you are "extremely left"
  Lmfao eat shit bitch ♥️
  
  Centrists are nazis these days 😅