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Why do most Americans use an iPhone?

Okay, this is not an iPhone vs Android Phone debate. I respect your right to choose whichever platform that you want.


I mean, iPhone seems so antithetical with the idea of freedom. You have to connect it to a server to even use it, all apps have to go through a centralized server, no option to install whatever apps you want, which means, you literally cannot have any third-party apps without an online account.

Most of my fellow americans seems to love the idea of freedom so much, yet just buy into a closed ecosystem with no freedom? šŸ¤”

Like almost 60% of Americans use iPhone, kinda weird to preach freedom when you cant even have an app without a corporation's approval. If it were any other country, I wouldn't find it weird, but for a country that's obsessed with the idea of freedom (so much so that they disobeyed mask mandates), it's really weird to be using a device with zero freedom.

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  • when you cant even have an app without a corporationā€™s approval

    Apple has successfully positioned themselves as ā€œthe good guyā€.

    • Apple broke the monopoly of phone provider locks, and still prohibits phone provider bloatware.
    • Apple seems like the only provider with any care for privacy, and many of their features and policies are privacy focussed
    • Apple puts more effort than most software providers into usability
    • you might think Apples constraints on the App Store blocks legitimate opensource and personal projects, but it mostly blocks commercial exploitation. It blocks behaviors that abuse customers or their privacy, that will give users a bad experience. Iā€™ve read the requirement for a fee with a real credit card is actually the most effective strategy against malware
    • every major app is available in the App Store
    • its just a phone. My phone needs to just work, unlike my computer which needs to do whatever I want it to.

    So maybe the root cause is lack of consumer protection in the US, but my experience with iPhone is much better than with Android phones. Iā€™m not blind to corporate shenanigans but I do feel better protected in the Apple ecosystem. I do have freedom to choose almost any legitimate app, and Iā€™m not particularly interested n futzing around with my phone anyway

  • You have to connect it to a server to even use it

    That's also true of the versions of Android that 99.99% of people use

    cannot have any third-party apps without an online account.

    Most people don't care. They'll use the suggested app store and have an account already.

    Right or not, it is what it is.

  • Because an iPhone isnā€™t ā€œthatā€ expensive when you buy it on a plan. I mean itā€™s only $38 CAD for the new iPhone 6e on a Contract. Thatā€™s with my paycheque to paycheque budget. /s

    Though honestly thatā€™s the mind set of these users. Sure they are literally paying $100+ CAD more than MSRP. But to them since it includes the data itā€™s a good deal.

    Now bellow is my view as a guy who manages and orgs fleet of Samsung phone, developed apps for both Android and iOS, and is the defacto IT guy for my family.

    I think the lean towards iPhones comes from budget Android being crap, and peer pressure from those around them. Get a cheap A series Samsung or a Budget Acer and you are just asking for a slow and buggy experience where the mic will just stop working after 2 years. Or itā€™s running Android One.

    Even an older iPhone like the 6s is still supported by many apps. Plus since it once had flagship specs. The soc has more power and runs better than anything new from Android. Itā€™s the same logic that if you get an older iPad for the same price as a new Fire Tablet the iPad will be better than a fire tablet.

    The solution is to get a more expensive Android. But once you get to the price point of a Samsung S series, you might as well get an iPhone. The price is comparable, and you donā€™t loose out on features like the App Store (google play is a steaming pile in comparison). Plus iMessage and FaceTime is seamless and Airdrop ā€œjust worksā€.

    My relative had Android for years and struggled to use them. I finally convinced one of them to use an iPhone XR by the time the 14 was coming out, and now my Nan is texting and doing FaceTime. They couldā€™ve done this before with the budget Android their carrier gave them. But the work Apple did to make it feel intuitive is brilliant. In fact because of the confidence boost from the iPhone, sheā€™s even gotten herself an iPad to do her crossword puzzles.

    On top of that, unlike Apple. There is no guarantee that if you pay more for you Android that Iā€™ll keep getting support. Most phones struggle to offer more than 2 years. And with the fiasco around the Pixel 4 battery, itā€™s hard to believe the biggest players ā€œpromisesā€. Compare that to Apple and while the promise 7 years, realistically it can be 10 years.

    For me the reason I swapped over was the Play Store being hot garbage. And the disgusting amount of uninstallable bloat on it. I tried for years to install custom ROMs and midrange Chinese phones to get around it. While it works, I grew tired of the work required just to keep my phone up to date. And the loss of built in features since I was going u official. Like the loss of 2/3 cameras in the app (trying to find a cracked gcamera which enables both is a chore), and contactless pay (evolution x worked sometime, and locked me out other time).

    Donā€™t get me wrong iOS isnā€™t better than Android. I miss my headphone jack, FDroid, side loading my own apps, the ease of adding custom ringtones, and custom launcher. Oh and being able to use 3rd party web browsers that arenā€™t skins of Safari (WebKit). But when updates come through Iā€™m not concerned. My contactless pay works. Ad blocking is possible and I canā€™t complain about the cameras.

  • Honestly, at this point, the only reason to go with either ecosystem is that Android, for now, allows you to escape Google, to some degree depending on how much work you're willing to put in. IOS/apple doesn't allow that

    But, Google is trying hard to get to the same place.

    But, ignoring that, apple got there first. That's what it amounts to. The first real smart phone was by Apple, and that gave them a leg up

  • unless you're going to crack your android and install a custom rom (which, with limited exceptions, is extremely risky to do,) your choice is to either use an apple product, or a google-based OS.

    Apple has a slick design, and while android (and many of he devices it runs on) aren't awful, it's hard to change. and virtually every mainstream mobile device manufacturer is using some some form of android os with a custom UI, including Huawei (which no officially a fork, because of sanctions.)

    everything that's not android or apple is pretty much going to have to be installed custom. (there's a few linux-based things that aren't android, mobian, for example is a mobile-version of debian.)

    I'll leave it to the other to rant about why apple might be better than android for privacy and useability, given the caveat of not hacking a custom rom.

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