Your favorite torrent site might even have the exclusive remastered version that was only released dubbed in another language remuxed and retimed with the original audio!
Because what I want to watch is spread across 17 different streaming services. Of course you can buy digitally... But then there's no guarantee they won't take that back out of your account. Or edit it later on when they decide something is offensive like happened when I bought the office on Vudu.
Edit: guys, I'm asking a question. Why the downvotes? Also, I'm not talking about PAID streaming.
How you dare to go against Jellyfin in Lemmy, not even Plex stands a chance /s
To answer your question, you actually can use both, as I do.
Plex for more "obscure" content and to enrich my own TV m3u playlist with DizqueTV and Stremio and Kodi with Real Debrid for everything else, if I have a legal streaming service is because it is being borrowed to me lol, I'm more than served with my means.
Because you can control exactly what is on your server. I do the same thing via Plex. I want to watch a movie and it got pulled from the half dozen streaming services I have access to? Fuck it, just download it and add it to my own personal server. Now I have it forever and ever until I decide I’m done watching it.
A decade ago, there was like, Netflix and Hulu. Netflix you paid $8 a month and you got stuff from Paramount, Starz!, most television networks, Disney, the various permutations of Fox. You could watch Friends, Penn & Teller's Bullshit!, Star Trek TNG, and Mythbusters for the same $8/month in one app in one interface.
Now, nearly every network or channel wants their own bespoke app on your device, they EACH cost more than $8 a month, and now you have to remember who makes what content. And still stuff randomly disappears. Or, if there's a "purchase" system like on Amazon where you pay a price per movie/episode/whatever, some contract falling through could mean they get to unilaterally decide how long "forever" is.
I ripped my DVD collection to my NAS and I use Kodi on a Raspberry Pi attached to my (non-smart) television. I don't pay a continuous fee (or nine), I don't scroll endlessly through shit I'm not interested in, stuff doesn't randomly disappear, and it's not going to decide to start playing ads even through I paid for this.
As for torrenting? Don't need the heat. I can buy used DVDs or blu-rays from eBay or my local pawn shop for pennies apiece and have all the content I actually want, legally and conveniently. My ISP doesn't get mad, and everything continues to work.
Plus my NAS does a few other things not related to media consumption, for example it's attached to my UPS and it will send signals to several devices including the UPS and itself to shut down when it's too low on battery. It's kind of nice to have that kind of thing.
I was watching a show and they dropped the rights in my country (no one picked it up), the only option was to steal it via a torrent or steal via VPN…then they blocked VPNs
There's basically four options when you want to watch a TV show without paying money for it. You can borrow someone's password to a legal streaming service, you can use an illegal streaming service, you can torrent the show and watch it locally on your machine, or you can torrent the show, put it on a private server, and access it from anywhere.
The first two options are the easiest and legally safest, but you don't have total control over what you get. The services might not have every episode, they might have awful compression, they might take the show away while you're watching it, etc.
The latter two options are legally less safe, but you have more control over what you get. If you only watch the shows you download locally (either on the computer it was downloaded to or from a flash drive), there's no reason to set up a server at all. If you want to be able to access your shows remotely, setting up a server offers the benefits of streaming legally (watch it anywhere, let your friends watch it anywhere), with the benefits of illegally downloading (you decide what's available to watch, it's in whatever quality you want, no one can take it away from you, etc.)
For most people, just streaming is the best option. Most people don't actually care about quality that much–have you ever met someone who doesn't skip ads? Who can watch a youtube video with the mouse on screen? Who doesn't mind the blighted notch taking away part of their phone's screen? That's most people. Not to say streaming is that bad for those of us who care about quality, just saying that if animeflix or watchcartoononline offer good enough quality for me, they offer good enough quality for 95% of the pirate population
In my case I use a Emby server and not "free" streaming options because I can choice the quality, subtitles and on which device I want to watch. Or download it on my phone for offline watching.
basically, data hoarder. i'm scared of not being able to watch a certain show in the future, even on illegal sites. so i take control of the files myself at very little cost. i had an old computer laying around, and a 4TB HDD is like 60€
This is why I only get into old, long finished shows. Who tf is gonna cancel Witch Hunter Robin before I finish watching it? Is Sunrise gonna find animeflix's server rooms and light em on fire?
Recently been trying to introduce my partner to Doctor Who while he's staying in Australia. All the episodes used to be up on BritBox because it's a British show, but they dropped it earlier this year. Now the options are:
Binge (season 4+)
Amazon Prime (season 5+)
Stan (all new seasons, but also the only streaming service I don't have access to)
We had that happen to us the other day, it was announced a series was available dates X to Y so we figure "Ok, it's the last day, they'll pull it at midnight, we'll just binge it"...
Of course theyll pull the first season, how else would the network drive people to go sign up for their separate shitty streaming site that barely works for an additional $9/mo?
Meanwhile your friendly neighborhood pirate has the first, second, third AND fourth seasons, as well as all the extras and the Christmas special, always available all the time...
"A streaming service only has the second season of a show"
The "rival" streaming service that has the first season of the show is owned by the same corporation so it can double-dip viewers on subscription fees.
reminds me of hulu in the early days. What's the point, why would I ever trust your service if you're just going to haphazardly throw episodes up there?
I remember when Hulu first came out and everyone kept telling me it was free. Then I'd try to watch something on it and it was only 15-30 second clips. Then I found out my friends were just stupid and didn't realize they're parents were paying for it
I love how everyone here are just saying to pirate. I wonder if someone made one streaming platform to rule them all. I'm talking no ads, no missing parts, no extra fees, no shitty quality streams. Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?
yeap steam is the best example of a service i'd very happily pay - I've paid LOTS to them and just last month, I downloaded "have a nice death" for yuzu, played 30", loved it and insta bought it on steam. It was 25 euros but having my saves forever and being able to single click install & play is something that I value more.
you don't get to get my money AND fuck me, pick one (netflix, youtube, etc.)
Netflix used to be that and everyone bought the hell out of it. Then it enshittened and all the shows moved to proprietary platforms and now you need 19 subscriptions to get a selection of shows you care about. No thanks.
There are powerful lessons to be learned from the successes of Steam and Spotify if only the relevant people look and listen.
tbf, they’d prefer to be that as you described. What happened was many publishers decided they’d make their own deal, and pulled their contracts. Still the same disappointing situation thanks to greed, but it wasn’t really Netflix’s fault.
There will always be pirates, for some the act itself is a kind of hobby and part of their identity, but I think we can see in the reaction to some current and past, pre-inshitification, services thatt here is a legitimate point where many, if not a majority, would be happy to pay for a worthy service to support the media they enjoy and avoid some of the acquisition and self hosting hassle of pirating.
For games, I still pirate them for a couple of reasons, one of them being monetary. However, if the game is good, I buy the game afterwards to support the developers, and if it's bad, they won't see a dime from me. I might be a pirate, but I have honor.
i would gladly pay for that. the only reason i'm not streaming is the inconsistency of it all. and to watch all of the stuff i want to watch, that would be 60€+ a month. plus the godawful UI. but i'm not entitled to complain, i use jellyfin.
Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?
It's not an either or thing. No matter what, some people will pirate. No matter what, some people will choose to pay. Those aren't even mutually exclusive, some people will pirate and pay.
You are right, not even arguing this. But I ment like the ratio then. Caz I feel like it'd make more people pay, but you can't unteach the masses of how easy it is to pirate, so the damage might be permanent.
When there was basically only Netflix I paid for it and almost completely stopped pirating. Now I have acces to Netflix, Disney, prime(Disney and prime by password sharing) and I again started pirating years ago.
I for sure pay €20 for one service with almost everything, no ads and decent quality. Then I again stop pirating
This was the case when I checked out crunchyroll years ago, there were so many shows that didn't have season 1 in my country and well the selection was abysmal to begin with.
Oh yea, streaming services have never had much of a selection in my country so the high seas are the only option and Plex combined with sickchill and couchpotato are a better user experience too.
My streaming-service readies every movie or episode from everything i love, the moment it airs. And gives me a notification that it did. And then i can watch it wherever i want.
Oh wait, i don't use streaming but sonarr/radarr/prowlarr 😁
Just let me pay for PBS kids without going through Amazon please. I’m a goddamn sustainer ffs. I want my kids binge watching Reading Rainbow. For my kids. Just them. Not because Levar Burton is dreamy. No. Just for the kids. Trust me. If I needed a Levar Burton fix I’d just listen to Levar Burton Reads podcast. His voice is enough for me.
Wait 'till you hear about when a streaming service has season 1 and 2 in the original language, but only season 1 in English, plus season 1 and 2 (dubs and subs) are merged into a single season. This is space dandy on Hulu (I think it's Hulu, mighta been Netflix).
I couldn't tell you how far into the series it is, but that is how I came across Detective Conan. Nearing a decade ago I found it on netflix and had absolutely no clue what was going on but I stuck with the maybe 12 or so episodes they had. I eventually learned that it was pretty far into the series. Couldn't tell you how far, but pretty far in.