i torture myself on an oldschool liberal message board and they are very much still in the tank for Ukraine. They aren't really operating in any sort of realm we can consider reality anymore though. They use numbers more than double what even the US says for casualties, for example. I don't think they even know this has happened.
If Ukraine loses and is forced to offer serious concessions to Russia (unlike the deal they already had and NATO prevented), the well armed extremists in Ukraine will go crazy. And they will probably be by far the most powerful faction. We could see terrorist attacks all over Europe from them.
This is exactly what the US wants though. As Europe becomes more destabilized and uninhabitable, more and more people (especially skilled workers and highly educated professionals) will be looking for a way out.
Some will probably go to places like China, but the vast majority of them will end up in the US as cheap labor with H-1B visas, competing and dragging down domestic wages. Literally cheap labor from Europe.
The irony is that this was exactly what the EU did to the post-Soviet states in the 1990s. A lot of brain drain from post-Soviet Russia and Europe practically received a whole bunch of cheap skilled workers taught by a very high quality Soviet education system. This is shock therapy in action.
This is what Western imperialism has been doing to the Global South over the past century, with economic migrants moving to Western countries.
Only this time it is happening to the Europeans themselves.
i really wonder, though, how much of the ultra-nationalist turbo nazis are once again fertilizing the fields of Ukraine as their heros in the SS Galacian division did so long ago. What happens in obviously failed wars like this? Do the ideological troops go in to hiding so they can do terrorism later, or do they all fight to the last and end up dead?
Anyone with it still in their display name is probably pretty committed. It'll probably stick around until the war is actually over, and a little past that.
Depends on how they go about selling it to people. I think it will probably be an "evil corrupt Ukraine tricked the west into supporting them" kind of narrative, so a lot of these Ukraine flaggers will change it out of outrage to whatever the next big thing they're told to support is (probably Israel atm) The NAFO dorks have already moved onto that and the rest of the libs will probably follow suite soon enough.
Love to liquidate my democracy stock for a democracy payout. Smh should've waited on the democracy dividends. It's a democracy bear market tbh. Putin is shorting democracy the dastardly villaine