I'm not sure that lemmy users are different in this from user of Reddit/HackerNews/Facebook/etc.
It's never been about reading the post/ articles. Mmm?!
I like the discussion about the topic.
I read the TLDR bot at least…
Seems like that gives 90% of the relevant info, then I view the article if there’s anything missing.
Not that it makes a difference, my opinions are formed before I even read the title. I’m dug in, and I’ll never change 😎
I always read the top comment first, because often they have a better article or explain why the article is misleading
The real truth!
I generally do this because the articles are often behind paywalls.
I'm dug in, and I'll never change 😎
'Cause we don't have to! 'Cause we're AMERICANS! We won't change our minds on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before us.
Rock, flag, and eagle! Right, li10?
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modern websites are a pain to navigate with popups, paywall, ads, heavy tracking that slows down navigation, autoplaying video ads etc
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modern journalism = let's just report whatever the person or company says without fact checking, contextualizing or taking a stance. I believe this is done because it takes less effort and because it makes sure that the news org doesn't anger any of the persons/organizations it has tides with (for ads or direct funding)
The comments solve both problems, as lemmy is ad- and tracking-free and the people in the comments are mostly real people usually without any vested interests in the things they're discussing.
So OBVIOUSLY I only read the comments. I'll get the content of the article indirectly as it's being discussed.
Also you can use the comments to determine if the article is even worth reading so you don't accidentally give a click to some hack journalism.
This is absolutely true. I get more information and understanding from the discussion in the comments than I do the article. Using other platforms I want to read what people are discussing about the article than the article itself. Brings more depth to the conversation and the article.
When I see a lot of 💩 on the site, I use Firefox's reader mode.
archive.md, 12ft.io or the "Bypass paywalls clean" extension for paywalls
I have Ublock origin to block the tracking.
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Well, we've got the very useful tldr. bot.
I remember seeing that bot make something longer once, super useful.
I don't want to read the thing. I want to discuss the thing that i didn't read with other people who didn't read the thing.
Did you read the thing? Because I didn't and I don't like your opinion on that topic!
Why would I read a long, padded, ad-riddled article when I can get a quick and accurate TL;DR in the title and expert commentary in the comments?
I prefer to only read the top line of a meme then post. And no that's not a Lemmy user, that's squidward
Right!? Everyone but us is so stupid for talking about Lemmy (who ever that is) in here, while this is obviously squidward. Sheeple are so stupid!
This is literally the entire internet.
I read comments first mostly because a lot of posted articles are behind a paywall or i have to turn off my adblockers and maybe someone posted a tldr
Shoot, they won't just be posting a tl;dr, but a commentary on it, and sometimes really good context from their field or experience. It's basically the article, but written by a more intelligent journalist who is a part of whatever is being reported on, not just observing from interviews and phone calls (and lame corporate website 'about us' pages).
Exactly - no fluff or dancing around, they get right to the point and make concrete assertions. Then if they're wrong, people will correct them, and you get a debate that (hopefully) brings up various subtleties and connected issues for a more holistic view.
Then if I'm still intrigued, I read the source
So, what's the meme about?
If it's paywalled, yes. I'm just reading the title.
Yeah guilty as charged
Give me an archive link and I'll click it every time. Otherwise, almost never.
Tldr?
Too long didn't read.
I won't waste my time reading your comment, but i'll waste a lot of time talking shit about how i think you commented!
Not necessarily a bad thing though.
Think of it this way: There's value in having access to a list of curated content others have deemed "worth reading or looking at". But there is just as much value in engaging in some banter, provided it doesn't lead to outright war in the comments.
I admit, it is tiresome trying to seriously discuss a topic when people haven't actually read the article, but there is still an upside to a topic triggering at least enough interest to where people actually want to engage.
I want peoples opinions on what they read. I ain’t got time lol
Maybe give us a not paywalled link next time?
I feel personally attacked
YUP. So make sure your title is good.
Kinda understandable for articles from sites that pester you to disable adblocker or pay for a subscription (WSJ/Wired/Guardian type news sites etc).
I'll do it again!
I thought it was standard operating procedure on the Internet.
I tried to read the article but it was paywalled. Or it wanted me to turn off my ad blocker before I could read the article. Or it was a video. Or the source was something like
www.patriotusaeaglenews.ru.The first two can often be thwarted by turning off Javascript. And if it still doesn't work, it probably wasn't worth your time anyways.
You ever used the web with javascript disabled? How do you do this on a mobile device? Are you sticking to this setting?
Lemmy is awesome to me for this reason: Mostlikely the bot comment is either at the top, or at the bottom. Former tells me that bo expert has yet entered the conversation. Maybe I have meaningful insight (I haven't yet. My shame). The latter shows me I need to read the tldr first, before proceeding to read the conversation. Or maybe I have already cosumed the article and I am still looking for other views on it.
Anyhow, I think it shows that the internet nowadays does no spread information, but user data.
[insert question directly answered by article here]
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I've seen just the opposite. The top comment points out all sorts of problems with the article beyond just the headline.
Take this one on using nitrogen asphyxiation for the death penalty: https://midwest.social/post/7581080
I'm personally against the death penalty, but this article was garbage with garbage arguments. The top comments highlight why. Not only did people read the article, but they were also clear headed enough to point out all its flaws even when they are broadly on the same side as the authors.
Welcome to the internet.
Sir, this is a meme.
I didn't read the text, just came to comments to see what it was about. Now I know, this is a meme.
Same as it ever was
Am i here for newspapers or for community, hm?
This was much more fun in the days of Fark.
Fark is a time machine. The jokes haven’t changed in the slightest.
Why would I risk my psyche, phone, and integrity going to a infested wild media web page, it's like you think this is reddit and I'm a curious teen
There weren't enough tik toks in the article
I think they should copy paste the entire article in text and just link it in case someone need to confirm. I just dont want to open a browser and deal with site . Too much hazzle besides you are aldready going through it anyway.
Much better to just post an archive link. Lemmy’s not really big enough to garner this kind of attention yet, but copying article text wholesale is a good way to get DMCA claimed and that’s not fair to do to instance admins.
Oh i didnt know about that . Seems fair.
