Litmus test: Are they suddenly getting widespread positive coverage in western news?
But the real answer is that every protest is on a spectrum between the two. What makes a color revolution so effective is that it redirects legitimate alienation towards reactionary ends
Yeah I'd agree with that litmus test. Ukraine is a good example of that, even disregarding their 2004 protest as I'm not sure it always comes in the form of a peaceful protest.
Ukraine was ranked as one of the more corrupt countries in the world circa ~2015.
Then there was a TV show running in Ukraine from 2015 to 2019 starring Zelensky as president of Ukraine. You'll never guess what happened next...
And before everyone gets all "Ukraine good, Russia bad" yes, that was horrible of Russia to start a war. Fuck politicians for using people as pawns.
But I think this paints a clearer picture as to how we got here
Honestly not really. The alternative was allow Ukraine to set up as a springboard for operation Barbarossa 2, which would mean nuclear war. Russia objectively saved the world by destroying a decades worth of western plans in Ukraine. Feel bad for the citizens of the Donbas obviously, but even western Ukrainian citizens only have so much of my sympathy. Now they’re being picked up off the street and suddenly war in the east isn’t so fun anymore.
Potential for co-option always blurs the line, too, especially in cases like decentralized Occupy sort of stuff. That sort of leaderless, ad-hoc angle can have perks, but leaves a fundamental opening for bad actors.
Litmus test: Are they suddenly getting widespread positive coverage in western news?
Came here to post this same thing. More to it than that, and there's a lot of great answers here, but that is a shortcut to at least determine if its sus.
English signs in a country where nobody speaks English.
Anglo media platforms those protests.
Anglo social media does nothing but talk about them.
DemocracyTM
Leaders are all cutouts of some Western NGO.
Leaders speak perfect English.
Memes and symbols that come from the protests can always be perfectly translated into English with no cultural context lost.
There's also some dipshit French public intellectualTM who always shows up right when a color revolution is about to commence, but I forgot the dude's name.
There’s also some dipshit French public intellectualTM who always shows up right when a color revolution is about to commence, but I forgot the dude’s name.
I mean, one big red flag in a color revolution is... uh.. everyone coordinating around a big colored flag.
Can't help but notice a huge fixation on liberal talking points - fixations on "free press" and "free trade" and "no more corruption", particularly absent any tolerance for criticism of western venues. Any time people start waving American / British / French flags, that's a huge warning sign. Insinuations that the current head of state is either a closeted homosexual or secretly about to die are also great signifiers. The hornier the press is for a potential replacement dictator senior executive, the more likely its an Op.
Are there a bunch of British and American flags being waved by the protestors? Do they have a bunch of signs in english for no reason? Are they asking for foreign intervention from NATO or the US? Is CNN and other bourgeois media reporting on it nonstop, and are they described as freedom fighters by such media? It's always kind of obvious when it's a color revolution.
Well most protest movements will be attempted to get co-opted by the us, if they aid the us empires wants, but that's not really answering your question.
If all the signs are in English you might be in a color revolution. If you're demonstrating for vague amaricanized ideals like a general sense of "freedom" you might be in a colour revolution. If you get a lot of attention from us media, despite having a small size, you might be in a color revolution. If your "leaders" seemingly come out of nowhere and all have vibes, you just might be in a colour revolution
The thing about spycraft is you you will never really know for sure. However, if it serves western interests it doesn't matter. You have to treat them like it is
In non-English speaking countries: more signs in English than the local language(s).
Memes relating to Western popular culture, extensively shared on western media platforms (Instagram, Facebook)
Yeah definitely, I guess it's an indicator not a smoking gun. Personally I was thinking the Hunger Games/Milktea Alliance stuff in SE Asia, I'm not familiar with latin American memes.
I was going to say, the protest signs are a good additional piece of data, along with other things. If they’re in the local language, it’s pretty obvious who the target audience is. If it’s in English… a little suspect (in my book)
Vincent Bevins wrote a book on protests movements. I recommend reading it: "If we burn". Weirdly pro-HK protests perspective, but salvageable. The internet gave the US a lot of tools to brainfry people by amplyfing the right protests and messages within large protests, along with the western media empires in general, and especially horizontalist movements suffer from it pretty badly, being not able to out-maneuver ngos or having no idea how to wield power, so that the systemic inertia of western imperialism made a lot of things skew towards western interests without any active subjective input.
Yeah, US State/CIA don't create these kind of protests out of thin air. They usually insert themselves into legitimate protests movements of people with real issues with their government, but who don't want to overthrow it and become US puppets.
That's what happened at the Tianemen Square protests. The mass of people were socialists students with issues they cared about, but US State backed elements worked their way into coopting it. The Belarus protests from a few years ago is a more recent example.
Another good example of the US co-opting an existing movement (albiet on a larger scale) is how the CIA trained and equipped the Mujahideen to kill the Soviets in Afghanistan.
it's an imaginary distinction. every "color revolution" represents some real current of popular sentiment within a society. the question is not "are all these people that i'm seeing in the streets actually all paid protestors?" but rather "what segment of the society as a whole are these people speaking for, and what are their interests?"
recall the trucker protests in canada. these were real pissed off truckers using a small number of large machines to cause a lot of economic disruption. but by and large they were middle class small holders who owned their own vehicles and could afford to miss work for weeks at a time, not to articulate any specific demands, but to throw a tantrum brought on by their ambient sense that they were not the god kings of their own legacy that settler mythology taught them they could be.
Having multiple sources of information helps. Hanging out in leftist spaces one can (sometimes) hear rumblings before an explosive incident. It's when it happens in a vacuum that I get suspicious.
You should read what the local communist party is writing about it, and see if it makes sense. if they're self-hating imperialist sell outs, it's normally not that hard to pick up on, like the handful of freaks in Left 21 who tried to claim a left opposition to the PRC in some cringe english articles during the HK Revolution of Our Times.