NPR liberal publicly shames husband for not wanting to get Covid again
NPR liberal publicly shames husband for not wanting to get Covid again
Holy shit what is wrong with these people
He is immunocompromised and his doctors warned him that if he got sick again, it may complicate his autoimmune disease.
She talks about him the entire article as if the fear is all in his head and that it’s just a matter of balancing his fear with her ennui. She doesn’t have the same risks by compromising that he does, so you can’t just both-sides the situation.
Next NPR article: My husband is divorcing me for demonstrably caring so little about his health I wrote an article about it
Can you imagine? I would pack my bags and leave the second i saw this. It's so cruel, so callous, so utterly lacking respect to shame your partner like this in front of the entire world.
I hate this shit so much. Weighing your creature comforts against the literal life or death of your family. Yeah, living with the horrible, horrible burden of chronic illness and vulnerability does suck, doesn't it? It is limiting, you do miss out on so many things you wish you could do, it does crush you and grind you down and extinguish the joy in your life, doesn't it! But you're so lucky! You can leave whenever you want! You don't have to live with chronic illness, you can just fuck off and be normal and not have to worry about any of it whenever you want!
I have type ii bipolar. I've spent decades fighting to survive horrific depression, isolation, anxiety. And i watched normal, neurotypical, healthy people crack after a couple of weeks of half assed quarantines. "If you had what I had you'd be dead". And now when they've all given up and embraced the plague i get rolled eyes and scowls and pitying looks from people. Well fuck all of them! Covid causes many of the same neurological conditions as bipolar and adhd - brain fog, executive dysfunction, fatigue, malaise. I haven't fought like hell and suffered pain worse than death year after year to just give up and let this fucking virus destroy what's left of my brain because people want to eat shitty diner food or watch some capeshit movie in theaters.
I've survived things that would have killed most of them a hundred times over and i'm going to keep surviving. Wearing a damn mask is nothing compared to taking a fist full of pills every day that fuck with my stomach and make me shit weird and forget to eat and throw me between extreme cognitive states of focus and disfunction! Avoiding crowds? I spent almost a year once only leaving the house at night because i was so wracked with depression and anxiety and i was terrified someone would see me as a dangerous crazy man and call the cops!
I've been in much worse places than this, and i lived, and i'm going to continue to live, and i've seen what's in the heart of all these people who don't believe in death, who don't believe it could happen to them, who won't make sacrifices for the people they love.
I haven't fought like hell and suffered pain worse than death year after year to just give up and let this fucking virus destroy what's left of my brain because people want to eat shitty diner food or watch some capeshit movie in theaters.
Yeah, this attitude is why it's disgustingly common for people who become disabled to end up abandoned by friends and family.
It's really got me thinking of the horrific statistics of how many people, especially men, ditch their spouses when their spouse becomes terminally ill.
This article boils my blood, wow. Every paragraph is basically "My husband is completely rational and grounded in his desire to not be crushed under the wheels of capital and submit himself to long term neurological degradation so he can consooooom, but Kilemal Pathogenson from [respected institution] says COVID can be good for our marriage. This is a tough situation for us."
Kilemal Pathogenson lmao
I was considering changing it because it does sound a little like made up name a racist would use, but it was too good to discard.
I have a degree in counseling from the University of Buenos Aires, and I say Kilemal!
Seemed to me like an article written by someone struggling with the mental health burden placed on her by her husband's autoimmune disorder.
It seems callous to disregard her needs as any less valid than this. She's clearly struggling through how to handle and balance them.
I mean I won't go so far as to say she has no valid needs/concerns here, but like, they're on different levels. One could have severe health complications if their vigilance slips, the other wants to eat indoors at restaurants and host parties. I get that there are serious legitimate social needs people have, but I don't think these are equally important.
The only remotely "unreasonable" thing they mention on his side is "wearing a mask outdoors when nobody is around", which doesn't affect anyone but himself or prevent any socializing... You can't just "compromise" on infection-prevention measures, because you don't get half as sick if you get covid from dining in at a restaurant when it's not very busy vs when it's busy, you just get sick either way and risk major complications. And the fact that it's being published in a national publication definitely makes it feel worse, to me anyhow.
You should read this article that was written in response to the OP. Yes, obviously this writer's own feelings are valid and it's not fair that we all need to put our lives on hold because our government decided to prioritize capital over human lives. That's obviously not her fault, and maybe I'm part of the problem by going hard on her when the issue is bigger than an NPR problem. But merely the decision to frame this, and publish this, as an interpersonal or marital issue when it's a political issue of denying disabled people their right to live their lives in public, is completely myopic and says a lot about how libertarian NPR is.
What are her needs? To spread covid to her husband and child and everyone around her so that she can take a trip to Dubai? Having to be covid cautious in the year 2024 when most of the world has gone "back to normal" is something a lot of people are dealing with right now, many with far less resources and far less ability than this woman. These people are disabled, immunocompromised, many have long covid - they are doing this out of necessity. So, I'm sorry, I have very little sympathy for this woman. I'm not saying it's an easy, simple thing to do, to remain covid cautious in the year 2024, but if she won't take covid precautions to protect herself and her child, she should at least have solidarity with her husband and the many like him. Instead she wants to meet in the middle, as if her needs are in any way comparable to his. One person wants to go to Dubai, the other person wants to not die.
I don't want to chalk all her needs up to "a trip to Dubai" though. She does have valid needs, you're right, remaining covid cautious these days is very difficult. One current running through this article I think is the need for social interaction. But throughout this article she desires to fulfill those needs by kicking those who have already been abandoned by our public institutions; by forcing her husband into dangerous situations and really in effect by joining with bourgeois interests in dismantling public health and letting a large part of the world just whither away and die as they succumb to this virus. What she needs to do is realize the only way she can fulfill her needs is through solidarity with her husband and the disabled and immunocompromised; by fighting for public health and a world where these people are not abandoned.
It's undeniable that there is a burden placed on a partner in a relationship where one party has a chronic condition
However
It is beyond inexcusable to air that shit out in public on one of the largest media platforms in the United States. If she wanted to write it on a small personal blog, or anonymously post about it on Twitter or something, I get it - we all gotta vent sometimes - but to write an article for NPR about how bad she feels because her husband has a chronic condition is peak ghoulishness. You think the husband wanted anything to do with this? You think he wanted to be called out publicly as being a paranoid overreactor (her implication, not mine)? Fuck no
Ok. How come we always center these people, though, and not people like me who are disabled and immunocompromised, who have been isolated from society for four, going on five years? Do you think I like it? Do you think I didn’t like doing things before all of this, too? Is that not callous? No, because none of you ever think about anything. The situations are entirely different; one doesn’t want to literally die or become more disabled and the other can’t… be social while being safe? Do you think the husband has no social needs either? I’m so tired.
All this leaves me feeling torn between two emotions. I want to keep my husband safe and healthy. But I also want our old life back.
It's her husband, what the hell happened to "in sickness and in health", did she forget about that vow? Does marriage even mean anything to people anymore? Her "old life" is not going to come back anytime soon, he husband is immunocompromised. That's never going to change. Support your life partner, as you promised to do so on the day you got married. Those vows are supposed to mean something, they're not supposed to be empty words. You're supposed to stick together and support each other through the good and the bad, in sickness and in health as I already said.
But my feelings as his spouse are valid too, says James C. Jackson, a neuropsychologist at Vanderbilt University and author of Clearing the Fog: From Surviving to Thriving with Long COVID, A Practical Guide.
Okay the rest of the article, which is the vast majority of it, is just promotion of this guy's book and methods, the article is not worth reading, it's extremely basic relationship advice such as compromising with your partner, and not to gaslight your partner about long COVID. Again, basic empathetic human behaviour.
In January, we flew halfway across the world to visit family in Dubai. At first, I thought that the stringent COVID precautions he was taking to protect himself on the airplane were over the top. In addition to wearing an N95 mask for 13 straight hours, he kept a personal air purifier at his seat at all times. But now I can see those actions for what they are. He was doing everything he could to make the trip work. In his way, he wanted to see me happy.
Stick to those last few sentences and ignore the rest. The guy is doing the best he can to try to make things work. This isn't some malicious thing. Recognise that and continue to try to make things work together.
All in all, this is a clickbait article to advertise some phycologist's book and methods, and the wife is not as bad as the introduction makes it seem. Don't know how such blatant promotion is allowed on NPR though, isn't that meant to be state funded media?
One of the reasons I never finished my psych degree was the sheer level of con-artistry on display in the profession. It's fucked up how so many psychologists will just peddle bullshit self-help books that they know are actively going to encourage toxic behaviour in people. Psychology under capitalism is rotted and broken.
I thought that the stringent COVID precautions he was taking to protect himself on the airplane were over the top. In addition to wearing an N95 mask for 13 straight hours, he kept a personal air purifier at his seat at all times.
I'd be wearing a fucking full face respirator complete with two huge filters sticking out if I was immuno-compromised and you asked me to sit in a small metal tube with a couple hundred other people for 13 hours. If people don't think I'm Bane, I haven't gone far enough.
And the thing is, even if COVID magically goes away, the guy is still immunocompromised. Illnesses like the flu and common cold can still make him seriously ill. His life has permanently changed.
Don't know how such blatant promotion is allowed on NPR though, isn't that meant to be state funded media?
Look up the song Utah Phillips wrote about npr
Unpacking anxiety
I told Jackson that I want to be more supportive and empathetic to my husband's needs. But sometimes it is tricky to parse out what is a valid health concern and what might be anxiety.
The reality is that if he gets COVID again, he could get really sick
...?
I guess she believes her husband's autoimmune disorder is a skill issue?
Anxiety? Whoa there, that wasn't part of the marriage contract.
...was it?
In January, we flew halfway across the world to visit family in Dubai.
There it is. Why are your family members living in a semi-slave state? The class distinctions reveal themselves.
Dude spent 13 hours in the plague tube, protected only by an N95, for her. But that's not enough. I wear a full face respirator now if I can't avoid flying. Total coverage, P100 filters, and a big fucking Hamsa sticker because I know all those assholes are giving me the evil eye and I am armored by my absolute contempt for them.
Before coming to NPR in 2015, Gharib worked at the Malala Fund, a global education charity founded by Malala Yousafzai, and the ONE Campaign, an anti-poverty advocacy group founded by Bono. She graduated from Syracuse University with a dual degree in journalism and marketing.
NGO shitlib imperialism once again.
This article was posted on the husband's birthday. He's been liking replies supporting him on Twitter. This is a form of abuse and I hope he leaves.
So his wife used his illness and birthday to promote someone's crappy book on NPR?
Poor guy
Yeah, it seems truly awful. Hopefully his real birthday gift is getting to see that thousands of strangers think he deserves so much better than this.
Get a load of her husband over there, thinking his life is worth more than some mediocre waffles at a cafe with plastic flowers on the wall.
But is life whithout brunch really worth living?
I'm here to ask you to face the wall and to serve brunch
and I'm all out of brunch
Posted this to a family chat with people who have expressed their vibes getting ruined by the covid caution of me and my partner and how they dislike the way it makes them feel guilty when we ask them not to show up to family gatherings while sick. Family members who gave us covid by showing up for Christmas dinner visibly sick.
Our long covid symptoms have gotten so much worse from it, I spend my days with debilitating nausea currently. My partner is even higher risk and I was given this exact line: "While I get your need to protect you partnet, I feel your "fear of the virus" is ruining these family gatherings". All I asked for was to make sure nobody comes to a gathering sick.
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the libs are not alright
I linked an article on the covid community that's a rebuttal to this article. Highly recommend reading that.
Seconded, it's really good. I felt pretty down after this NPR piece (I have long covid myself) and the Gauntlet article was like a breath of fresh air. It is a relief to see reality so plainly stated.
I felt the same way, but from the perspective of a disabled person that knew I'd be beyond my limits if long covid got added on top. Well, that and being immunocompromised. It's always good to know others understand the struggle and specifically how heartbreaking it is to have family/friends treat us like we've lost it.
Death
Seems obvious to me that this married couple should be neither married nor a couple. He doesn't want to die of COVID, she wants to party which is her prerogative. Just divorce and move on.
he needs to divorce her. she's trying to kill him - or minimally, destroy his health and cause him real harm. dude get the fuck away from that woman.
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This shit has been my life since 2020. I have an autoimmune disorder that is with me for good; there is no cure. I used to go to weekly tabletop game nights, competitions. I used to go to the gym three times a week and played tennis, go running and biking. I used to enjoy the company of friends. None of that happens anymore because everyone- everyone- is this woman. My only friend through all of this is my amazing wife, who has always been supportive and militant with me. It is not even a second thought to her. Forgive me if my sympathies for whatever "struggle" it is to "deal with me" as a medically vulnerable person are nonexistent. I have zero patience anymore for people like this.
Why are many of you assuming its only a concern for the imunocompressed? Everyone can get long covid and be fucled up by it. Even the vampire guy who has acces to far better healthcare than any of us got long covid from a mild case. You should be wearing a mask at all times. Bathing once you get home. Avoid restaurants, bars, planes, movie theathers, crowds, etc. If its not necessary dont take a risk. Even if you are a psycopath and dont care if covid kills the rest of us, for your own self interest take care. Using a mask costs almost nothing.
She is a disgusting human being. If either of my partners were immunocompromised, I would go the fuck out of my way to ensure that they would have the most minimized risk of catching COVID. The fact that she's selfish enough to write an article like this tells me volumes about who she is.
I could only stomach a skim but its the abuse of therapyspeak for me here.