If Biden Isn’t the Democrats’ 2024 Candidate, Harris Will Be

Good god! NO! Have they learned nothing from 2016???
There's a woman running for president, that seems to be the democrats only option (only because nobody is giving Bernie Sanders the time of day......for some reason......), and an entire nation, both on the left AND on the right, who are saying "Ew, no, we don't want her.....". Opposing her is trump, which one side of the election actively DO want to be president. So they'll have no troube with their voting decision.
And then there's the undecided voter. They don't like either option, but they see that even the left isn't happy with their choice, but the right IS happy with their choice......so from that logic, it sounds like they should vote republican, because they don't like either option, but at least SOME people DO like this option. And that's how trump becomes president.
The only question is, did I just describe 2016, or 2024?
- It's such a low bar for the DNC to just put forth a viable candidate, and all they've come up with is a controversial president's wife who doesnt know when to shut up and not tank her own (and others) campaign, a genocidal geriatric strike-breaker, and now, after nearly two decades of blatant, recorded police abuse and widespread protests against police... President "female bad-cop".
  
  Which is insane........because if Michelle Obama even HINTED at running, it would re-energize the entire democratic party.
  I mean I guess the same could also be said about Taylor Swift, but personally I would want her to do some lower positions. We've all seen how terrible a president with no experience can go.
  
  And then you want to say hey vote third party and you are literally Hitler
- This is a weird take. As an independent I'd much prefer Harris to Biden. I don't really have anything against her.
  But yeah, I'd much, much, MUCH rather have Bernie.

Gross. I don't care who you are, President Cop is gonna be a no from me, dog.
- Remember this on The Daily Show? https://x.com/SciSocialist/status/1199851020421083136

I find it interesting how many self identified leftists are cheering and welcoming a racist and corrupt cop as president of the United States.
Like, this isn’t even about the whole “anyone but trump” or “vote 3rd party” war.
The crowd claiming to be the left are just straight up cheering for cops.
Fascinating how I see the left continually blamed for not meeting Dems in the middle with that 1930s Germany copypasta and yet it’s only one of them constantly shifting right.
Since apparently a rabid mob comes up every time someone touches this topic, yes I understand what’s at stake and will be voting accordingly.
I’m sure all these self proclaimed leftists will be there to advocate for the local socialist parties after we secure the presidency right? …right?
- Not I. ACAB. She had a history of horrible policies.
  Kamala Harris is a complicated choice for some LGBTQ+ people
  https://19thnews.org/2020/08/kamala-harris-complicated-lgbtq-choice/
  
  I have some reservations (need to research her more) as she was relatively progressive in an American context it seems.
  If anyone has more starting points for my research, I am absolutely open.
  However, for the moment she’s a “NO” from me. Even at the most forgiving judgements, it seems she sent away a whole bunch of poor people and did nothing about the system that is driving them to crime.
  Ah also her weird racism, nepotism, and stances on LGBT issues. Who refers to art in their home by the ethnicity of the artist???
  
  She had a history of horrible policies.
  The idea that voters vote based on policy rather than loyalty is totally incomprehensible to the Democratic party.
- You realize you are part of the rabid mob too then? Instead of listening to people with which you mostly politically agree, you immediately resort to shitting on and scapegoating them by jumping to a wild conclusion. This type of rhetoric is equally unhelpful.
  
  And that’s a fair assessment as well. It is a scapegoat to say those folks don’t support other leftist policies.
  However I must disagree that my conclusion was wild.
  My train of thought is, people say they support making peoples lives better and implementing policies proven to work and be more cost effective.
  When it comes time to ‘nut up’ and do it, their chosen representatives roll over and compromise and refuse to use the same governing tools used against them to stop the rise of fascism.
  Republicans famously grind the country to a halt with a minority. It’s their whole shtick, and yet they sail through these fascist policies nationwide with no fighting back from the Feds.
  Is it truly that like minded when the purpose of a system is what it does, and my fellow patriots choose the continued decline of society driven by capitalism?
  This, I believe, is the source of this leftist’s anger. Open denial of genocide by party leaders, while capital interests make life shittier literally every day, and no way out between “shit choice” and “literal fascist”.
- I love it when assholes refer to the Black and Indian woman as a racist. You could say someone of color is bigoted, but racism requires institutional control, and as far as I know black people don't have that kind of power. I would know I go to all the meetings, they have all you can eat catering.

Taylor Swift have more chances winning than Harris tbh.
- Sure, and Thor would have better chances than Trump. But why compare a normal candidate to a force of fucking nature?
  
  LOL Taylor Swift is indeed a force of nature, or at least can summon one at will.

- She'd be a very successful candidate no doubt, if the DNC allowed it. You've seen how they did Bernie and he's an old white guy. I can't imagine them going for AOC. They're a fundamentally conservative organisation that exists to vet candidates and prevent anyone with the will to make "actual change" from being in a position to.
  Also, they've argued in court that they are not a democratic organisation. They can block nominations entirely unilaterally, to one of the only two parties that can realistically field a presidential candidate. The other party is much more openly corrupt, which is a genuine achievement.
  The US electoral system is entirely captured by corporate interests.
  
  If AOC gets more votes than their conservative candidate in the swing states they might grudgingly take her. She likely would not get more votes because the Repubs have been on a propaganda campaign to discredit her since forever.
- Unfortunately there's no chance the middle majority would accept her, she'd be super popular with 30% but really struggle with the rest
- Yes, but...
  As the Nation is now we'd have to spend a term preparing everyone for it. Her running would realistically begin within weeks after the office is occupied. Lightly, yes, though running still.
- Isn't she under the minimum age? Realistically, we should lower it, but until then it's the law...
  
  She will be older than the minimum before election day. But she's not running so it's a moot point.
  If she does eventually decide to run, she'll have to beat both parties.
  
  According to the internet, she turns 35 in October.

What kind of dumbass article is this? Biden is the candidate the election is in five months.
- They mean that he could die before then.
- Contested convention and they replace him. August surprise.
  
  How to lose another election against an actual anti-democracy fascist who couldn't pass a turning test 101.
  
  Delusional.
  
  They'd never do that to an incumbent candidate.

fuck just restart the whole country from scratch.
- I'll get my tea and head out for Boston harbour.
  
  this mf gonna dump tea they already paid for in the harbor
- Have we tried turning it off and turning it back on again?

Lol Harris is a terrible candidate. Maybe Michelle Obama or something.

Really doesn't feel like a democracy when you have to vote for one side because the other is straight up fascist

Whenever I see Harris, all I can think of is the Backpage . com miscarriage of justice.

Should be Pete Bootyjudge
- How do I get him to rate my booty? Is there a scheduling website I sign up through...?

Yep… time to block this community from my feed. All it seems to be is a place where everyone that has been banned from other communities for sharing misinformation to post their rhetoric.
- How is this misinformation...?
  
  He says that about anything that isn't performative worship of Biden's support for genocide.
- New York Times is now misinfo/propaganda because it didn't instantly say Biden is the best candidate since FDR. I'm really enjoying how liberals are becoming conservatives with "Anything that disagrees with my party is paid off misinfo".

Nice to know that a lot of you would vote for a slaver. Oops, sorry, forgot she is black, so that makes it okay.
- Fact check: Kamala Harris is “a cop whose family owned slaves in Jamaica” claim is missing context
  https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN25L1K3/
  
  The NYT article linked in that Reuters article is missing.
  From what i can tell the Top Cop story is pretty accurate.
  The Atlantic argued in an op-ed that she doesn’t say enough when pressed about criticisms about her track record, “like that she fought hard to keep innocents in prison and failed to fight hard against corrupt cops.”
  Biden was also known as the "tough on crime guy" being a co-writer of one of the largest incarceration laws so they fit together perfectly. Two Republicans cosplaying as Democrats.
  The slave owner family criticism is indeed far less relevant as a link to 1800's has like 32/64 people in the parents tree and chances are one of those will be a slave owner but 200 years later that's not super relevant to the children.
  
  I was more talking about how the American justice system is legal slavery. By being the primary cause of incarcerating people, Haris is a slaver.
- You should delete this comment. I don't tolerate anyone referring to a black person as a slaver.

So... instead of a conman cosplaying as a fascist, you might be getting a pig - someone well-versed in the business of fascism.
This just keeps getting better and better.

Don't tease me!
- Yeah, I'd vote Harris without complaint. That's basically our closest path to normality.
  
  Without complaint? Really? The only thing she has going for her over Biden is he age
  I'd vote for her the same way I'd vote for Biden - begrudgingly
  
  She a scumbag cop guess if your wanting to speed run to police state faster she be your choice.

What’s dystopian about this? I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
- Her approval rating is lower than Biden's...
  Voters have real doubts about Kamala Harris as potential president, poll finds
  https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/kamala-harris-favorability-poll-00162093
  
  Just like they had doubt about Hillary. Show me one woman presidential nominee that polls over 50% in the US.
- So would I, if she wasn't part of an administration that condones the genocide in Gaza.