Devastated Harris voters conclude America just hates women as Trump wins again
Devastated Harris voters conclude America just hates women as Trump wins again
Harris supporters seemed shocked by the 2024 election results that indicated the U.S. is moving more right than left
Summary
Many Democrats, especially women, expressed disillusionment and frustration online, viewing the result as a reflection of deep-seated misogyny in the U.S.
Harris supporters highlighted anger that a “felony convicted, twice-impeached” Trump prevailed over a female candidate.
Comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss resurfaced, with many attributing Trump’s win to targeted appeals to young men, including appearances with influencers like Joe Rogan.
The election outcome has intensified concerns over growing right-wing radicalization among young men.
I don't think that way, personally.
I think that America is just dumb af. Every stance Republican Voters claim to care about: Trump performs worse on. But they were told he was their guy by Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, etc. Money won the race.
Don’t underestimate misogyny / bro culture in the US. Combine that with machismo in some subcultures and the weird religious beliefs that women should be subservient and at home making babies and we’ll never see a female president at this rate.
You know Canada used to make fun of America as a daily pastime. We stopped doing that and now look where we are.
I just assumed that started as a reactionary movement responding to South Park.
Don't overgeneralize. Many of us [edit: US citizens] are not that stupid [edit: and didn't vote for this dumpster fire].
And as one of those I don't appreciate the random asshole insults.
Edit: Calling an entire country stupid when you can't parse that this comment was saying that a large chunk of us didn't vote for Diaper Donnie is very ironic.
Honestly, I feel we have a huge disinformation problem. A war really where billionaires, Russia, Iran,and China are on one side and we're on the other. They treat it like a war while we treat it like a small infestation. So many Republicans I speak with bring up reason why they support trump that are reasonable: Better economy, Protecting children, protecting rights, protecting jobs, reducing crime.in a vacuum, cool candidate. Except that many of the strategies he utilize to accomplish those goals seems illegal or unhelpful. Even worse, who cares if he could and would accomplish those goals, He tried to overthrow the government. Yet all the Republicans I know view that as untrue. Mainly in the form of, "I don't hear about it much, so it's either fake news,or not really a coup"
Why? Because they get their news from faux news and social media that have focused on keeping those negative aspects of him buried. And both of those things have huge reach.they are the eyes and ears of these voters, how can they not believe their eyes and ears that tell them that Trump is great?
Until that problem is dealt with, we can't have an informed population that votes. Instead we will have a large group of uninformed voters. It's not their fault, they're just some of the first casualties in this disinformation war.
I saved a comment from u/allmhuran posted to r/news on 2016-06-24:
"Australia has had five prime ministers in five years, the poor yanks look as though they'll have to choose between two options both of which have more disapproval than approval, and the UK leaves the EU. It seems like a ridiculous amount of instability. One might even call it absurd.
But it's not surprising.
You can't feed a society exaggeration, hyperbole and propaganda for over a decade, and then claim surprise when people don't seem to be making rational decisions on the basis of well established truth.
There's a cost associated with not telling the truth. There's a cost associated with polarized, adversarial public discourse. There's a cost associated with media more concerned with profits than the public interest.
It is, apparently, time to pay the piper."
There’s a cost associated with media more concerned with profits than the public interest.
Media: good thing we're not the ones paying the price! Continue current heading, profits ho!
Very well stated. We need to operate within this reality instead of the fantasy land created by those who will be fine either way.
The worst part is all of those claims can be easily debunked, but not a one of them will ever believe it.
Unless that the large portion of americas population that thinks the ultra rich are awesome suddenly stops thinking that way then it’s gonna be a difficult battle.
Women, immigrants, racial minorities in general, LGBTQ people, muslims, the poor, themselves, it's pretty much everyone at this point.
It's really beyond time for this sort of disinformation to fuck off.
Harris lost because she's a neoliberal, full stop. Scapegoating it as sexism means you learned fucking nothing and will only keep losing.
Any sane adult should have beat Trump. He won because 72 million Americans want fascism.
Once all the smart, wealthy, moral, and ethical people flee the US that can flee the US do flee the US I'll finally be able to get a job!
no, he won because 20 million Americans played chicken in Americas only car and we fucking lost.
If you think sexism wasn't a significant part of this, I don't know what to tell you. Of course it was. Biden wasn't better than her in any way and he won against Trump. Despite the fact that practically no one was excited to vote for him. It's baffling you're even questioning this.
Biden wasn't better, Trump's issues were just more in the forefront of people's minds. They asked themselves "do I want more of this" and said no. Since then there have been rose colored glasses that make people think he was good for the economy and they forgotten the chaos. And now the "do I want more of this" question is moving against the Democrats and a candidate that was reticent to truly separate herself from "this".
Completely agree, but I’ve been seeing so many similar sentiments on Lemmy since the election. Today I saw someone comment, almost word for word, that there was no problem with Kamala’s campaign - the issue was simply that Americans are too stupid. Someone else on a totally different post commented that this election proves the Dems could run Jesus Christ himself and half the country would still reject him. And those are just two examples. This is one of more unhinged meltdowns I’ve ever seen.
Lots of young women actually voted for Trump. Go figure: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/yes-trump-improved-young-men-drew-young-women-rcna179019
That what they mean by America hates women. It includes women too.
Internalised misogyny and all of that.
Wild.
Lol this mfer can make them into breeder slaves from Mad Max Fury Road and they'd just vote even harder for him next time.
It's just joever, people prefer authoritarianism over freedom, even reproductive freedom or bodily autonomy, they are sheep that need to be led where to go and told what to think.
I actually concluded that and that the Democrats have no fucking clue who their fucken base is. Jfc. They should all just register as Republicans if they want to keep moving right like this.
Democrats don't really have a base. It's not progressives, if that's what you're thinking, we don't have the numbers for that kind of sway. You can see this clearly in how many House seats we hold.
If there is any base to dems, its white collar suburban soccer moms. But it's not actually that either, they're just one of the biggest segments.
Doesnt matter anymore. Have you seen what these lunatics have been saying as potential members of his cabinet and beyond? Anyone who voted Democrat is in danger at this point. The rise if the American Reich.
Anything except blaming her policies because those conservative policies come with a shit ton in donations...
Yup. Sadly, we can't run some robust experiments, but I'm pretty sure Warren would have outperformed Harris by a mile.
God I hope the DNC's fucking takeaway isn't "must only run neoliberal men".
I looked back over the 2020 primary data and Kamala dropped before she even got to the first vote, Warren continued to pull small groups of delegates after super tuesday. In a very real sense Elizabeth Warren beat the pants off Kamala in terms of the primary. I was really pushing for her early in 2020 because I felt she was a consensus candidate between the further left Bernie types and the centrist Buttigieg types.
Misogyny is an easy excuse that doesn't question the effectiveness of any of the politicians or consultants involved in the race. People forget that Biden only barely won what should have been an easy race. Now the difference between losing and barely winning is a big deal, but they all ran pretty similar campaigns trying to get the "good Republicans" while neglecting their base. Maybe Biden's shriveled dick was the difference to get him to barely squeak past Trump while a woman wouldn't, but none of these races should have been close. There's a much bigger problem at play than "just don't run women because too sexist".
I'm with you. Some of the simplicity of this is what's going to keep these cycles going.
Not defending bidens record here but are you really dissing an 81 yo dick? You think anyone has a girthy hog at 81?
Please don't remind me that people actually voted for a guy who looks and smells like he died two weeks ago.
Hey bud, now is your chance to really push hard for the green party and Jill Stein! Right?
I mean, surely, they won't disappear for four years. They're a legitimate party, after all. And legitimate parties need grassroots support, and build from the ground up... Right?
Fucking 🤡. Nobody should ever take anything this person says seriously.
Fuck off.
Oh, you're the person who thinks I like Jill Stein for some reason. You're clueless.
He won by more than she lost by. It's not an excuse, it's just a part of the equation that cannot be ignored.
In a win as close as his, that's not saying anything particularly significant. Biden's win was what, 80,000 votes or so?
Devastated world gets confirmation of American misogyny above freedom and safety.
Much of America hates much more than just women, but women have got to be at or near the top of the list.