Nearly 70 percent of deaths in Gaza are women and children: UN
Nearly 70 percent of deaths in Gaza are women and children: UN
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Nearly 70 percent of deaths in Gaza are women and children: UN
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Given that most Palestinians are under the age of 14, this was to be expected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine
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Not most, technically - wiki says 0-14 make 44% of population. But this article breaks down the 70% further by saying 44% killed were 14 or under, so it's pretty much bang on for indicating that they're killing Palestinians at random.
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And if 44% are children, that leaves 56% as adults. Cut that roughly in half to 28% for a 50/50 male/female split you get 72% (28 and 44) of the population is "women and children". If that's accurate, the title would be better stated as "Isreal kills indiscriminately".
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Random is giving them way too much. Those are targeted numbers
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Civilians are being killed b3cause ha,as is using civilians as shields.
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I mean, sure, but this assumes that the killing is completely indiscriminate.
It is, but it's important that you're clear on that
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They're obliterating entire cities, so yeah.
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What fraction is under 18? It's hard to tell by looking at the graph. I want to calculate what ratio of combatants to civilians killed a number of 70% implies.
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Roughly half, as of mid October last year. I don't think anyone has a clear picture of the current proportions, for obvious reasons.
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"Yeah but women and girls will give birth to terrorists, and boys will become terrorists. These are just preemptive-preemptive strikes... Historians may call this genocide but we disagree semantically". - Israeli government probably
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Mossad would be proud of this statement.
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Not probably. "Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, mothers and children." says the head of their air force.
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Actually responsibility of civilian deaths are on those who use civilians as human shields
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I don’t get that mindset. Why is it ok to shoot through people to get to the bad guys?
If the police did that when criminals took hostages it wouldn’t be acceptable so why is it acceptable for Israel?
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So if a terrorist broke in to your home, locked you, your wife, and your kids in the basement, then launched a rocket from your bedroom window, you'd be 100% OK with the IDF turning your house in to rubble and your family in to compost? Really? Get a fucking grip, buddy.
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The Hutu's used the term "cockroaches" to dehumanize. The Nazi's used "rats". But at least those are living creatures. But "a shield", calling a human being a shield, as if they're an inanimate object meant to be struck, as if they're a nuisance that you're meant to get through to hit your target? Calling these civilians "human shields" is a new low for dehumanizing language, and Israel defenders don't realize what kind of monster everyone else sees them as. So wild that it's considered acceptable language by mainstream culture, fucking terrifying.
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So the responsibility is on the IDF, then.
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As the IDF has done. So you're saying that the IDF is a terrorist org, right? Right??
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If a group of militants decided to have a meeting in the basement of a fully occupied apartment building in NYC, you believe it would be ethical for the US military to destroy the building and kill hundreds of people in their homes?
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According to the CIA world factbook (the only source I could find) the population spread in gaza is:
0-14 years: 38.8% (male 427,450/female 404,288) 15-64 years: 58.3% (male 627,235/female 620,903) 65 years and over: 2.9% (2024 est.) (male 31,655/female 30,112)
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/gaza-strip/#people-and-society
Meaning about 30% of the population are males over 14.
So I guess Israel isn't disproportionately murdering women and children, theyre just killing everyone. So genocide.
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By eliminating the next generation(s) and the females in fertile age, it is more effective at wiping out a population than engaging directly with it.
This is valid for getting rid of vermin, capable of explosive breeding.
No need to guess what the results will be when applied to human beings.
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This is a weird way to phrase this.
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Dehumanization works because many of the popular cultures around the world treat non-humans terribly. As we're talking about the "cradle" of Western civilization, we're talking about pastoralists especially.
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It got a reaction out of you because if the way it is phrased, didn't it? That was the objective.
Sadly enough, those who triggered this disaster think in these same terms. And look where it has led.
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In case anyone forgot from autumn 2023:
On Saturday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israelis were united in their fight against Hamas, whom he described as an enemy of incomparable cruelty. “They are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world,” Netanyahu said in Hebrew. He then added: “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.”
As others quickly pointed out, God commands King Saul in the first Book of Samuel to kill every person in Amalek, a rival nation to ancient Israel. “This is what the Lord Almighty says,” the prophet Samuel tells Saul. “‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
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70% of people are women and children.
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I guess the point you're making is that this essentially shows that Israel is targeting any palestinian, not just hamas. That's genocide.
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Yup.
Sounds so much nicer to say "killing everyone" instead of "genocide" right?
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70% of Hamas aren't.
What does this tell us about Israel's goals?
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The math leans towards the former, but when the two hypotheses suggested by the data are "we are actively and selectively targeting noncombatants" and "we just don't give half a shit who we're killing," in a sane world you'd be universally branded as "the baddies" in the conflict.
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I would consider the latter to be depraved indifference, but the former to be maliciously genocidal.
Of the two, the former is much, much worse than the latter. And with everything being a spectrum of some kind, the former is much further along the path to being evil than the latter.
With that said, there is no single person pushing all the buttons in Israel; as such, I am sure there are people in the Israeli command structure that represent the former much more than the latter, and vice versa.
But if there is one characterization I feel is wholly appropriate: on Oct 6, Israel looked at the evil of Hamas and said, “hold my beer and watch this.” And boy, did they ever deliver.
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44% children, 26% women, 30% men. Gaza is about half under 18, so that's nearly randomly killing people. That said, these are only confirmed fatalities, so presumably susceptible to bias.
The report is here
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No bias, they are just killing everyone on sight.
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Why are so many women and children joining Hamas?
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I guess it's "nice" to confirm that they're still killing Palestinians at random.
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Yeah, no shit
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What are the numbers today if Hamas killed?
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That's because Mama's surrounds military targets with civilians.
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Look at what atrocities hamas has forced the idf to do for over a year now!!!!! Seriously, I can't believe you're trying to make this argument at this point.
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It's so predictable too. Did someone do something indefensible and you don't want to face up to it? Try blaming the victim today! Ask your propagandist if victim blaming is right for you.
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This Mama's a real jerk then
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My autocorrect apparently doesn't know the word Hamas.
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Try reading the article.
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wow did you know that ~50% of people are female and ~50% of people in Gaza are children? what a shocking statistic that ~70% of people killed are women or children!
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So you gonna develop a weapon that has an AI visual system only targeted at men? Sounds like not discriminating at all huh?
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im just mocking the stats in the title because it implies that women and children are targeted but it's not like prioritising men or adults makes it any better
it's not like you can ethically decide whether any one of these age groups/genders are more guilty/innocent/valuable/important
killing through genocide is similarly unjust however you do it, it's just that sometimes discriminating some groups makes it more beneficial for the genociding party (e.g. deaths of children are more emotionally powerful when used in media)
the stats don't say that they don't discriminate though, it's just saying they don't discriminate based on their status as a child or an adult, or gender
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That just reinforces the fact that it's an actual genocide. If the general population wasn't just being murdered en masse, the statistics would skew towards military targets.
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hey fucking idiot: in war you usually don't kill people statistically randomly.
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But in genocide you do!
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B-b-b-but what about Trump?!
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Kamala said she was going to look for a ceasefire. Trump told Netanyahu to hurry up and finish the job. Get off your high horse.
EDIT: wow the tankies are out in full force tonight
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Oh wow she said. Too bad she wasn't in some position of power to do something immediately.... hey wait a minute.
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She can say whatever she wants, she has been part of the administration funding this genocide, she could have used her position to be more firm about stopping the aggression from Israel but has been nothing but supportive, regardless of what sham talks of ceasefire they may have tried to claim. Is there any evidence that she will take action that would be meaningfully different than what Trump would do?
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I’m sure Trump will improve the situation. Good job getting rid of Genocide Joe and Hatchet girl Kamala!
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This atrocity happened under biden, is continuing under biden and was supported by Harris. Enough of this moral relativism. If the democrats wanted to end this they would have already.
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Right! Is asking for a none genicidal party too much to ask for? Democrats leadership would say yes.
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loosing the election is on them and blue maga who support them blindly on everything, as a lifelong democrat i want them arrested and executed for warcrimes & murder along with entire aipac.
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I mean every american president should be at least arrested for warcrimes? Maybe Trump is an exception.
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It’s very telling about your character when you compare an adjudicated rapist, facial and insurrections with a former prosecutor and vice president that you choose to attack the prosecutor / VP over the criminal facist.
I appreciate the clarity of seeing what is in your soul.
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I hope your moral superiority brings comfort to those dead women and children, and the dead still to follow.
At least they died for your principles.
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That's 70% of confirmed deaths. So essentially this number is meaningless, as we don't know the whole picture.
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