In light of the revelations about the healthcare ceo shooter being an alt right return weirdo...
In light of the revelations about the healthcare ceo shooter being an alt right return weirdo...
I announce that his folk hero status has now been revoked.
Just another jilted alt right dude who was fine when he thought the system was for him and then got burned and lashed out.
No praxis, only edge and entitlement.
My authority to decide this? None, don't @ me.
The biggest clue he was not a yankee leftist was that he actually did something
Lmao absolutely roasted
Much better I think to emphasize the CEO in all this. A 'hero' can turn out to be a wet fart with incoherent beliefs, but a dead enemy is an unmistakable win and an unambiguous threat.
Sorry, are we just all taking the cops word for it? A group of class traitors, known for lying and false arrests? No, they saw this guy on a security camera, and decided to frame someone so their billionaire bosses would feel contempt. I'm not believing anything from the cops mouths.
But if this is the guy, maybe more right wing chuds will shoot CEOs. Two birds with one stone kinda thing. No one loses here.
I do not believe this shit in the slightest. This was clearly a planned shooting and the Adjuster put actual effort into evading the police, you're telling me he just went out to McDonalds a week later in the exact same outfit, conveniently carrying all the evidence the cops need including an anti-health insurance manifesto and the actual fucking weapon and fake ID he used to commit the crime? lol.
Exactly where I am. Surprised so many people here are accepting anything coming from the pigs.
On the one hand he killed a ceo.
On the other he's a retvrn chud.
But on the other hand it was a health insurance ceo.
But then he's praising Elon Musk.
But he raised class conscious among the working poor of the USA.
Yeah but the Elon shit.
If this guy ends up being the role model for the USA's working poor, I worry what conclusions they'll draw...
Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837
Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837
"We Will Talk of Nothing Else": Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837
Yeaaah like it's not class consciousness if it's just angry white men spitting their dummy's out and lashing out.
tbh I'm just going with the assumption that even the working poor in the USA are cooked and have brainworms. Embrace the doomer I guess.
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idk, seems pretty clear to me. They're terrible opinions but they have little material impact
I believe in separating the art from the artist.
I refuse this notion as that's what a lot of Harry Potter fans say to justify their bullshit.
They are the bad takes haver after all
absolutely, this is just the one exception
Thats bad art with or without jk ratfuck
Never read the books or watched the movies but something about the protrayal of the goblins rubbed me the wrong way.
The weirdest one for me is the guy who wrote Altered Carbon. Who is a transphobic centrist who wrote three books about how transhumanist Maoists are cool and good (apparently wasn't his intention).
Being a centrist usually requires a ton of "communism bad" brainworms and being a transphobe always requires a ton of patriarchal brainworms. Neither of these are opinions you arrive at rationally, they are the result of people taking a wrong intellectual turn due to indoctrination, and both of these wrong turns can be found among all kinds of people, even those who in theory agree that Maoist goals and bodily autonomy are cool and good. These people will only agree these principles are cool and good as long as they are not exposed to the socially ingrained triggers of their fears, like a crowd of workers waving red banners, or people transing their gender.
On brand
Chuds really ruined that phrase, for sure. It's for shaking your head while reading Mists of Avalon on the bus, not cosplaying as a fascist kid wizard.
shaking your head while reading Mists of Avalon
That was 100% my reaction when I was reading that and in a world of Lothars and Morgaines and Taleisins we are introduced to a guy named "Kevin."
If right wing gun bros want to go all Apocalypse Now on American CEOs.
I'll be over here grillin' and chillin'.
Let em 👏
Not gunna cry about less CEOs lmao
I'm just gonna put some gripes with other posts/comments I've seen today here. Luigi is clearly not "still a good guy" like many on here seems to be suggesting lol. some guy who thinks "wokeness" is evil or whatever is not my comrade, regardless of how many CEOs he has killed. also saying this is "praxis" betrays a complete lack of understanding/refusal to apply theory. something that seems to go out the window when a fun (not denying that) rupture like this happens.
It makes me uncomfortable that people can just ignore his ideology, and ideology that is abjectly killing minorities as we speak and propagating within white reactionary men, just cos he killed a ceo.
Like killing the ceo IS funny. It was a good bit.
But when I see stuff like what you've quoted it makes me think that yeah users here probably didn't make the same connection we are making, but by saying "still a good guy" it's like ermmm what about the fact his ideology will include the erasure or even eradication of people on this site? This dude does not like women or queer people let's be clear. But that's fine if he kills the right people as he is "still a good guy"?!?!?! Make that make sense.
I don't think people mean to do that but when you are a person this guy would opress It's gross to see him characterised as still positive despite his beliefs.
Like people need to get that good act doesn't equate to good guy. It's so childish.
It makes me uncomfortable that people can just ignore ideology that is abjectly killing minorities as we speak and propagating just cos he killed a ceo.
i agree, I think it's a very privileged way to act. "willing to murder CEOs" is quite low on the list of desired qualities in potential comrades, not being an anti-wokeness lunatic is significantly more important lol.
Like people need to get that good act doesn't equate to good guy. It's so childish.
totally, i think painting the killing in hindsight as some ultimate moral act that absolves him of being a right wing culture warrior is an extremely regressive way of looking at morality to say the least.
You took the words right out of my mouth. And this wasn't just some wacky beliefs like some believe it to be. This shit isn't wacky to the marginalized people it hurts
Okay but I would still like it if every chud with a grudge and a gun killed a CEO instead of their usual targets
Is what he did rad as fuck? Absolutely.
Is Luigi himself based? No.
I'll admit this one stings. I so wanted a comrade folk hero named Luigi.
I wanted the shooter to disappear. No manifesto. No politics. An anonymous shooter represents everyone.
Saaaaaaaaaaame I was so stoked but reality is here to ruin all our fun.
Time for us to put our big person pants on and be like
The guy did the funniest bit this week. That's it.
yeah i guess we'll wait to hear from him, his lawyer, or whatever.
his last tweet was in the summer i really doubt he became an ideologically committed anti-capitalist in less then 6 mos and kept it to himself
so yeah revoked. i knew i would be disappointed.
honestly would have been cooler if he was just extremely apolitical but only posted about how the insurance industry sucked
honestly would have been cooler if he was just extremely apolitical but only posted about how the insurance industry sucked
If it had been just that then I'd agree this might be a moment of budding class consciousness and a chance for a bigger and productive conversation about our system leading to at the very least maybe some sort of reform that's not just performative ineffective rubbish.
But it wasn't
i agree with you. though i am of the opinion it would probably have been bad if the guy turned out to be like "I did this to further the cause of Marxism-Leninism". i don't really understand why people were hoping for that.
Yeah, if someone like this turns out to be a left-wing radical, it'll be used to justify crackdowns on leftists, if someone like this turns out to be a right-wing radical, it'll legitimize rightism as "the voice of the people". There's really a pretty narrow range of opinions I was necessarily hoping this guy had.
Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837
Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837
"We Will Talk of Nothing Else": Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837
Maybe to try and provoke conversation around socialism etc and demistify it? I'm not sure lol. Standard water cooler conversation topic hours.
He was still a net positive for the world at least
Nah, there’s ways this can actually turn out for the worse. In the grand scheme of things, 1 regenerative Bouge enemy down means nothing if this kid can be used to prop up right wing rhetoric.
Honestly, this might actually be worst case scenario.
I'm already scared that might happen. Right now he's radicalizing Ben Shapiro comment sections, I don't want the right to have this guy.
Problematic fave
Thompson's still full of lead
just saw a post fully dismissing out of hand the shooter's ideology as "weird shit and wacky opinions" to assure everyone that it's ok to continue valorizing him. https://hexbear.net/post/4067968 not sure why i ever bother wandering out of the trans mega...
His reading history is what he believed in the past, not what he believed while adjusting.
Consider that he was heading down the wrong path for a long time, but then realized that he was wrong, and acted accordingly. Cancelling someone because of their past beliefs is unproductive, and Luigi is proof of someone's world view changing for the better.
unfortunately it would have been a miracle if a 4X guy wasn't a retvrn weirdo
no war but class war. he has still done the working class a huge benefit. he, ultimately, is a good man.
I disagree.
The thread with the article with a black socialist writer in c/politics the other day and peoples reaction kinda proves Americans can't be trusted with the idea "no war but class war" cos they'll just erase the naunce and struggle of anyone not cis het male and white 🤷♀️
He's not a good man, he just did something you consider good.
Nah, still a hero. Dgaf if he was a weirdo. Praxis is praxis
that's just lib shit
