World chess federation bars transgender women from competing in women's events
World chess federation bars transgender women from competing in women's events
The world’s top chess federation has ruled that transgender women cannot compete in its official events for females until an assessment of gender change is made by its officials.
Lol, literally the only game where physical size, bone density, lung capacity and muscle strength does not matter is keeping men and women separate! Haha... In chess there should be no separate category for women, unless.... Unless.... Unless we believe that women are less smarter than men.
I've got news for you...
True, but we play chess differently than a computer. We play chess mostly by pattern recognition or planning. Computers typically play chess by brute forcing all options to find the one with the most highly successful results. The later is good with a lot of very stable memory, which humans don't have.
Women traditionally have been discouraged from competitions, including chess. Men have a generational head start. We are at the stage where, in order to be equitable and fair, we should be creating extra opportunities for women. If we didn't, tradition and systemic practices would continue to discourage women.
Chess has no male category. There's open, and female. This allows an extra space for women to compete against each other, feel safe, and make connections and friendships with other women in the minority. While still allowing them to compete in the coed category on a level playing field.
We will most likely continue to be at this stage for generations.
Sorry to be contrarian here, but at the high competitive level chess is a cardiovascular challenge. If you listen to serious chess players talk about playing it's not just a simple mental exercise.
High performing chess players have a higher HRV. Chess grandmasters might be sitting still but their body is undergoing a high degree of stress. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-14359-001
Men statistically have higher HRV on average, and the outliers are even more extreme. https://www.whoop.com/ca/en/thelocker/normal-hrv-range-age-gender/
So when you enter into a competitive environment it's just nicer to know you have a MORE level playing field.
I know chess specifically is controversial with regards to gender stuff and I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm just saying that there are real reasons to support separate brackets.
Hold up. I'm not super experienced in reading studies, but I can read.
HRV was reduced in participants who achieved worse results. This could indicate the possibility of HRV predicting cognitive performance
If reduced HRV means lower cognitive performance and women have, on average, lower HRV, you're saying women are less smart. At least in chess. I think that's bullshit and this study isn't incorporating enough/the correct data to show anything you're stating.
But here is one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763411002077 that links HRV with stress response
And another: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763419310292 That shows women's HRV responds less severely to stress.
Both meta-analysis, not a single data point.
So maybe men are just shit at dealing with stress and that's why their brains go haywire during competition. But it's so gracious of you being so kind to women and giving them a space where they can play among equals on a "MORE level playing field."
By your logic, they should just be testing people's HRV and ranking them that way so they all are on even ground. Give those dummy men a MORE level playing field.
Well... this is certainly enough bullshit to make the crops grow
Wow. Looks like people can't handle facts huh.
Pretty typical for here to see a post with actual sources and instead of people doing their own research they instead want to downvote and dog-pile. You can be upset with the outcome but there are reasons behind it (and it's not just them jumping on the trans bashing bandwagon, they outlined exactly why it was done and how it works for male-female transitions and vice versa)
And they also made it so trans men have to give up any women's titles they've earned. So, they simultaneously think trans men are men, but trans women are not women.
If anything, based on the past comments of the head of the organization, they have a position that's generally "women are dumber than men and we want to make decisions that align with that ethos always".
I've stopped being surprised by chess dorks after it came out that America's Champion, Bobby Fischer, our Hope Against The Commie Gameplaying Menace was literally a neo-Nazi and not subtle about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer
Holy crap that was a wild read. Jewish Mother but a Holocaust denier. Died in exile in Iceland while evading criminal deportation to the US. I had this vague memory that he was an asshole but I had no idea.
America supporting fascists, because they are anti-communist, has looooong history.
He also had schizophrenia, most probably.
I'm more partial to Kasparov myself.
To be clear, the head of FIDE is this guy with close ties to the Russian fascist state.
And the CEO is Emil Sutovsky, who recently made a twitter poll, basically asking, let's be honest, does anyone actually care to watch this women's tournament? When he never made a similar poll for any other tournament.
The chess world really needs to outgrow the sexist and transphobic FIDE
No wonder the "gender change" wording of their new rules is so similar to the new Russian law that essentially bans transitioning.
One can imagine that every oligarch who wants to suck the milk of Mr. Putin is required to demonstrate loyalty periodically by pissing in the eyes of one of Mr. Putin's designated targets. LGBTQ+ is just one of those.
None of y'all are getting it. Trans women have an unfair advantage in chess because they can turn the king into another queen.
Trans men can do the opposite, but that's way less useful...
That would put the chess judges into a paradox and their mind would lock up, requiring a visit to the ICU. Because trans pepople can only do that, thay are "a danger to the whole chess community" /s
I'm still wondering why there is even gender based play in Chess.
I’ve always heard that it’s to encourage visibility of women players and encourage women to take up the game, but this ban goes against that idea and just makes it sound like women aren’t as good at the game. Just like ol’ Bobby would want, I guess.
Strangely, in chess, there is almost never a man category. There is everybody and there is women. wikipedia . See also motivations why and arguments against. It's tricky.
Arbitrarianism, "everythng else is gendered, so...."
this makes sense because cis women have such small bones they can't reach past the centre board, giving most trans women and tall cis women an inherent advantage. /s
what the fuck chess this is just blatant transphobia
It's transphobia and misogyny. Because it implies that men are smarter than women.
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This is such a stupid argument, while you might be able to make the argument about sexual dimorphism in physical sports there's literally no good reason why a woman shouldn't be allowed to play chess against a man, or play chess against another woman if they are trans.
Chess is a game based on intelligence and strategy, it's not based on strength. It seems that this decision was made primarily on the basis of sexism, either because they think that chess is ""manly"" or because they think that men are smarter than women or that women are stupid. Either way not logical, purely sexist.
Women have been allowed in the open division and Trans females will also continued to be allowed in that division just not in the women's division.
So you're saying there's a case for discrepancy in other sports?
They said that while you might be able to make it for sports, you certainly can't make it for chess. That doesn't mean they personally think there's a case for sports too.
No I was saying that for chess you can't since there's no unfairness or difference in advantage to playing chess as a man or as a woman.
Ugh, why do they feel the need to even write these rules in the first place? I can almost guarantee you there's like, five trans people who are even registered to play chess. Why go to so much effort to block such a fraction of a percent of people anyways?
Whenever I read articles like these, I substitute "trans" for a different minority, such as a racial or ethnic minority, and it really puts it in perspective.
I remember when Utah made a huge deal about it in women's sports. And someone like the Utah governor was against it, saying he'd never seen so much hate around something so little. He told his colleagues that in the entire state, only four trans youth were even playing registered sports, and most were JV, not even going to competitions. It's sad to see people so stoked by hate for something so...mundane. :/
The same people claiming transwomen would ruin women's sports were celebrating when the U.S. women's team lost the World Cup.
I've been on Lemmy for a couple of months now - best comment I've read so far. You absolutely nailed it.
I guess you can look at it from various angles:
I'm sure there's more to it, and I'm just not informed well enough, so the question is honest, and I'm actually curious.
The older I've gotten, the more I've noticed how similar people are, regardless of gender. Sure, different genders might approach problem-solving differently, but I've had great teachers that were both men and women. Some of my best professors have been women.
Maybe they have different gender pools for scholarships or something, but even going back to the original thing...trans people make up a fraction of a percent most likely. I don't see this really becoming a problem. Spend your energy on making chess more appealing for everyone or something.
I also don't know much about brain development by gender, though aside from the speed of development (women develop faster than men), I can't imagine there's really that much of a difference once everyone hits puberty.
Because the point is to eschew hatred towards people who are different. Since they can’t have a “no black people” rule anymore, they target another vulnerable minority community.
Because Amy Scnider now owns all the women's jeopardy records?
Take what you want from that, I don't really have an opinion on trans people in pure intellectual competitions.
Why are men and woman separated in chess??
Traditionally chess has been a men's game, and female adoption is limited. The creation of an exclusive women's division is to generate a pathway to success for women, even if it's known to have a lower ceiling compared to men. Basically, it is to foster the game in females.
There is literally no disadvantage to being female in chess.
Making a female only division is a form of soft sexism through low expectations.
Next thing you will be patting them on the head and condescendingly praising them for doing so well.
Why does men being around affect their liking of chess? Why does anyone care if they like chess or not? It's a board game you sit at a table playing. If they want to play board games with other people, it really shouldn't matter who those other people are.
Men and women aren't separated, at least not usually. Its a woman's category and an open (everyone) category. Is almost completely opposite of sexist, gives women more opportunities to succeed.
Edit: link to a larger discussion on this topic
Women experience a fair amount of harassment in the open league. They aren't forbidden from participating, but the environment discourages it, so they set up a women's league too.
If there wasn't widespread cognitive damage amongst a fair bunch of male players and organizers, they could implement a far more sensible solution: punishing harassment.
Tradition would be my first guess.
Clarifications and comments (some pre emptive)
Chess has a women's category to boost participation and spotlight female players.
Women can and do compete in the open category, which allows men and women. However, currently the highest rated women perform under the super closed "Super GM" level, so they participate in the tournaments that are less prestigious but fitting their rating. Male players like IM Eric Rosen also participate in such tournaments.
The best female player in history , Judit Polgar was 8th best in the world when taking both genders into account. There's nothing stopping women from reaching the elite level in open chess. She even participated in the candidates tournament which decides who gets to play against the world champion for the world champion title. Unfortunately she didn't perform too well, but it's not because of her gender, she was basically beaten 2-1 (plus draws) by a male competitor, just like the other contestants in the round she was eliminated.
At her peak she had 2735 Elo points, making her 55th highest rated person in the history of organized chess. This is higher than one of the actual challengers to the crown, Nigel short.
Regarding the rulings:
So according to FIDE, transitioning from a man to a woman doesn't make you a woman, you are considered a man, but also, transitioning from a woman to a man makes you a man, so you are also not considered a woman.
Seems paradoxical. You'd think they'd pick one and stick to it.
Also: chess does have physical advantages, but they seem to be reletive and not competitive. Most high level players have some sports regimen as it helps increase cardiovascular efficiency, but size of competitor doesn't seem to matter as seen by David Bronstein and Mikhail Tal. Ian Nepomniatchschi intentionally lost weight for the world championship, and his ratings grew as a result.
Remember that whales are not necessarily more clever than humans even though their brains are huge in comparison.
So according to FIDE, transitioning from a man to a woman doesn't make you a woman, you are considered a man, but also, transitioning from a woman to a man makes you a man, so you are also not considered a woman.
This is only confusing if you assume the two categories are equal, one for each gender. The anyone category has more relaxed rules. They could make a men-only category that is just as strict as the women-only category, but what for?
There is no men only category, there are only open (any gender can participate) and women's (only women can participate).
The thing I find funny is how they treat transmen and transwomen differently. Like, if they want to say transwomen aren't men , and they can't participate in women's events, they should also say that transmen aren't men and can keep their women's titles.
No, you can't have men's only categories. The only viable options are open (men+women) or women (just women). It would be horribly sexist to just have a men's only division apparently 🙄
I don't think it's a issue in chess. Unless they have to run 100m while holding the chess board.
They consider trans women men, and men are smarter than women. That's what it implies anyway.
Being good at chess isn't about being "smart", a lot of top chess players will tell you as much. It is however about things like spatial awareness and pattern recognition, and some studies have demonstrated those traits to be, on average, stronger in male subjects. I'm sure evidence to the contrary exists though.
Or chess boxing
What? Is this real? Are the men and women not competing together? It is not a physical competition. Why the separation?
Currently, the top women don't come close to the top men. Considering how few female chess players are in comparison, it's not a surprise.
Having a women's league means you can have chess news about women's tournaments and champs and give them some visibility.
The reason there's a women's league in the first place is so they don't get harassed by the men (ostensibly).
So while on the surface, a gendered League is stupid, there are real world reasons for the separation.
This decision might / maybe / could be an extension of that reasoning. But very likely it's not, and it's just more bullshit anti trans policy.
The best way to prevent harassment is not bigoted segregation by gender, but in fact punishing or banning people who harass others.
If that's the reason, I'd imagine trans women would be the most likely to be harassed by the cis men who are harassing cis women.
The solution to men harassing women (and generally making them unwelcome, as they do) should not be to segregate women though, it should be to discipline men.
Which leads me to the real reason why women are segregated (because clearly isn't about their safety or their inclusion) - because the men involved would have an absolute breakdown if they were beaten by a woman (not a problem exclusive to chess, either).
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what's going on here. There is an open league and a league restricted to women only.
Without a women's league, there are fewer women seen playing, which reinforces the perception that it's not a sport for women, which creates this feedback loop leading to a smaller pool of women playing chess, thus fewer grand masters who are women. I see value in creating more space for women in chess to create more opportunities for following generations.
I don't like excluding trans women. I can imagine an argument that we're not ready for this until we get to a place where we don't think to distinguish between trans and cis women. A women's league in 2023 that a young cis girl is watching that had 3 cis women and 97 trans women, still may look to that young girl like a league for trans women, and not a league for all women that they can see themselves competing in. Personally, I enjoyed watching a marginalized gender eSports competition, and I don't think the presence of trans women invalidated the impact it could have inspiring young cis girls to pick up gaming.
or they could just like... Not allow harassment.
Really the game is chess, you shouldnt even need to see your oponent, so it could be all done online.
Chess was pretty much perfected decades ago - now all the tournaments thrive on is psyching out your opponent, which they've made women an easy target by isolating them. No wonder they statistically do worse
Do you really have to ask...? It's so obviously a bigoted decision, if real.
well this just doesn't even make any fucking sense at all
Plenty of enlightened gents hitting the thread here to rubbish the need for a women's category whilst simultaneously demonstrating the need for a women's category
This place feels more like Reddit every day. Incidentally I notice also that Lemmy has inherited Reddit's rule that every commenter is assumed male until proven otherwise. For a few days this place seemed like it might turn out different. Oh well.
can you explain this a bit more? I'm not seeing it
Double_A Nerdy men playing a board game are intidimating? How do women even get anything in life done of they are this fragile? WTF? Do you also want separate women-only schools, and women-only companies?
Rbmellor Tf are they in separate groups for? Don't girls know how sexy they look playing cheers?
System_glitch And the real reason is because women don't do well against men. They get dominated except for a very small minority. So I orde for women to have more parity, they have women's chess A biological man competing with them is, statistically, a huge advantage.
Two others I recall have been since been removed
Etc
This isn't like running or something where men have a significant advantage physically over women just make it mixed gender and be done with it people can claim whatever gender they want and chess can avoid getting into a politically charged firestorm
Except because of some factors, that's exactly the case. There have been around 2000 grandmasters ever. Only around 40 are women. Don't ask me why, I'm not touching the topic with a 10 meter pole.
Probably because there have been a lot more make chess players in general historically. It's still a long way from an even split today and was probably even more imbalanced.
It's the exact same reason as the one behind the gender disparity in STEM fields
There have been many studies done on the factors that are relevant. There are near irrefutable mounds of evidence.
However, the biggest brained take on this is,
I'm not touching the topic with a 10 meter pole.
Please use some punctuation, your comment was really hard to read.
Having said that, I agree
Sorry dude adhd man
There is already an open division there is just also a womens division to provide additional support and opportunities for women in chess.
Why is chess even seperated by gender? Its a completely non physical.
The environment around men favors them to be stronger than women. If there were no women's category, there would only be men playing chess and very very few women and that would sucks.
I think it's to give the top women a platform, for young girls to see people like them on the TV and make them believe they can do it too. If enough young girls start playing and keep playing, there should be plenty of female players that can compete with the best men in short order. There are also women's titles that have lower requirements than men's. It's a pretty controversial thing; some women refuse to take the "lesser" WGM title over the open IM title.
I'm not saying this works or I agree with it, but that's the thinking.
Because it's already a sausage fest
There is usually an open section (what I guess you think is the men's division), that is dominated by the top players who are almost if not all men. Why the top players are all men is not an easy answer.
Here is a post discussing it some. https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/why-are-there-only-few-female-chess-players-at-the-top-level
Bait
Today we learned that bigots think trans women have a biological advantage at being smarter and more logical than cis women.
Last month we learned that bigots think trans women are hotter than cis women.
Starting to think bigots don't think clearly.
"Damn those trans women, they're so hot, and smart, and funny, and athletic......."
If trans men (and by extension all men) are equally smart and logical as women, why even have separate men and women categories? Let women compete with men and we'll soon find which gender is more smart and logical.
That results in fewer women participating
Of all the sports where someone's biological sex would matter, chess is not one of them.
There is an open division where everyone can compete.
You have never been suplexed by someone you beat
it was never about fairness.
I recently heard the argument that no men would mentally survive loosing to a women in chess, especially grandmasters.
ngl I wonder if this contains more then a kernel of truth
That's not the issue.
There are events for women, and there are events for everyone.
Women are underrepresented in chess, hence they have their own exclusive events.
Ah yes, the sexist take that men are fragile and are to be protected from women beating them in chess.
I'm sure some are. I'm also sure most aren't
Being a minority in any social setting brings difficulties that others just don't otherwise face.
Having a women's category for chess is a way of creating a safe environment for everyone to thrive.
Nah, wait, why the hell is there a separate women's category in fucking chess in the first place? Those in charge of this decision are 100% misogynists AND transphobes. There isn't a single good reason for this.
For the same reason why we need quotas for businesses
Having a role model is hugely important for people picking up something.
If some girl plays chess and looks at the professional players and big tournaments there are no women there. So she likely will not pursue that path professionally. If there is a women's league then there the guarantee that there will be visibility for the winners which then creates more idols for young people and over the years increases the level of play until they are equal enough.
Not to mention the chess-clubs favouring boys on their training since they have a bigger chance to make it big and shine a spotlight on that club that produced this talent. With female only tournaments it's easier to create a name for yourself if you treat both genders equal and create the same talent for both sides there are so many fewer players.
Sure sounds dumb on paper but it's actually really necessary in order to create a pathway to more professional female players
I'm going to assume you aren't trolling.
Women traditionally have been discouraged from competitions, including chess. We are at the stage where we should be creating extra opportunities for women to be involved in these competitions. If we didn't, tradition and systemic practices would continue to discourage women.
Chess has no male category. There's co-ed, and female. This allows an extra space for women to compete against each other, feel safe, and make connections and friendships with other women in the minority. While still allowing them to compete in the coed category on a level playing field.
We will most likely continue to be at this stage for generations.
Having a women's category for chess is a way of creating a safe environment for everyone to thrive.
Minorities like trans people? A place where everyone can thrive?
It's fucking chess. I understand men may have more typical interest, but there shouldn't be divisions based on sex or gender. Maybe divisions for some neurodivergent people, but I'd bet on many of the great chess players being neurodivergent in some way.
Only counter argument I can give you is have a bit of empathy.
Imagine that you were a young girl and saw this game. Chess. And you wanted to learn how to play.
The first person you asked was your mother and she told you oh that's a boys game. But you still wanted to learn.
So you decide to just read up on the rules. You don't really know anyone that plays. So you just kinda play vs yourself and redo. Old GM matches you found in old magazines. None of them are like you btw. They all seem like old men that live on the opposite side of the world.
You really like the game tho. And eventually you realize oh. There are actual clubs/tourneys near here I can go and play with actual people!
You go. And there's not a single girl there. Because of all the hurdles you had to jump. Most others that would have been interested just quit.
So you get there. You are obviously underprepared because you didn't have the support system that made learning it easy. Because of that you just get wrecked.
In addition to that you probably will have to hear some dumb jokes. That if you didn't have such a rough patch to get there in the first place they might have been funny to you. But they aren't. They just felt like you were being punched down.
Having exclusive tournaments and leagues is a very minor way of rectifying awful historical disparities. It's not perfect and it's not a solution by itself. But it's absolutely needed.
If the gender ratio was something like 1:4 or less, you'd have an argument that everyone should just get along. But there's like 16 times more men in chess than women and separate tournaments means the gals won't have to learn chest thumping to deal with the asshole faction they can simply be catty which they already know how to do.
TIL: Chess had separate things for genders.
Weird...
The sexist assholes were driving away women, so the separate league was to allow women to compete without (or with less) hostility.
They don't want the chess geeks to jizz their pants. /s
Isn't this sexist ?
That's the kind of decision that makes me wish there was a capital question mark so I could just send that as a response.
#?
Reading between the lines, I can kind of see this one. The point appears to be to correct for societal inequities in the space of chess. If you learned chess and came up as a masculine presenting individual, they believe that the environment was more advantageous to you, so transitioning later in life doesn't change that advantage.
As people have already pointed out, this is clearly not an issue of the effects of testosterone on the body. So you are right in the sense that this policy can only be defensible on equity grounds.The overlooked issue with the argument that the organization is providing an equitable space for feminine presenting individuals coming up through a system that is overwhelmingly make dominated is that under the current policy, transmen are having their women's titles stripped from them unless they officially change their designations back to women. Only then, their awards would be restored. Suddenly presenting as male due to testosterone does not immediately negate the past experiences. If this policy is really about recognizing the challenges of climbing the ladder in chess as a feminine presenting individual, then these transmen who are also transitioning later in life should be allowed to keep their hard earned titles. Unfortunately, this policy is not actually about acknowledging the challenges of being a feminine presenting chess player. It smells like the organization wants to be able to claim they are acting equitably without thoroughly thinking about the logic of the policy. Whether people like the policy or not, or whether it is morally right or wrong is irrelevant. Well-crafted, consistent policy is much easier to defend. This policy is neither well thought out or consistent.
I did notice the invalidation of women's titles if you transitioned to male, but not if you transitioned to male. It seems like the general view is because the women's league is the easier league to achieve titles in, if you go to the "more competitive" league you then could game the system to "farm titles" or something if you transition and detransition.
The whole thing does seem a bit ridiculous as you mentioned based on my understanding of the system. The titles are clearly qualified as for a specific league, you don't lose junior league titles because you get older. Maybe this factors into elo calculations?
Either way, I appreciate the well written response. In my personal experience, the onus of trying to understand seemingly transphobic positions to potentially change them seems to fall on trans people, while allies seem more than happy to stick to the shouting and protesting. I had mentioned a point from a trans women who felt the discourse around pronouns was counter productive in her view, and someone immediately jumped to the defense of his partner who wasn't there before I could finish the sentence.
I didn't even realize chess had separated mens/womens events. I figured maybe a U18 and an open tournament. Is this par for normal? Or do most grandmasters etc compete at open tournaments?
Open and women, not men and women. The reason why there's separate women competitions is so they have a space where they can compete without some men being disrespectful towards them as happens every time there's mixed gender competitions.
I knew professional chess was blatantly sexist, but transphobic now too? Not surprised just dissappointed
I knew professional chess was blatantly sexist
How?
Why is there a division between sexes in chess? Why is a "chess master" different from a "woman chess master"?
From what I have seen in chess forums, many old-school male chess players think there is a difference in analytical vs emotional mind or something in that vein which is just a thinly veiled version of sexism
To be clear, the head of FIDE (the chess federation) is close to the Russian fascist state. This is the Russian state showing off anti-trans hate as a culture-war move.
Transphobia, sexism and nft's being sold on their official site? Chess really deserves something better than FIDE.
your meds schizo, take them.
To be fair, it takes a very high estrogen level in order to enjoy chess.
Wait, there's women's chess?
"The decision by the Switzerland-based federation FIDE, published on Monday, has drawn criticism from advocacy groups and supporters of transgender rights. FIDE said it and its member federations increasingly have received recognition requests from players who identify as transgender, and that the participation of transgender women would depend on an analysis of individual cases that could take up to two years."
And from Switzerland of all places... Isn't that where a bunch of the nazis fled to after the war?
Only if your metrics are completely broken. This is just plain old fashioned transphobia and culture war copium - nothing straight about it.
Silly question, why does chess, a mental activity, need gendered leagues?
Chess at pro level is brutal. One can get mentally mauled if the adversary has a superior, trained for cruel psychological warfare, mind.
Men just don't stand a chance.
Because the whole idea of gendered leagues in games that ultimately don't matter at all is about segregation and control, not physiology.
Bring on the down votes from the "but muh sports 'tegridy!" clowns.
Edit: some of yall need a class on statistics lol
I don't really follow. Do you mean only non/minimally physical competitions or all competitive sports/games/activities?
For things like chess, fishing, and spelling bees gender segregation doesn't make sense. But for things like martial arts or weight lifting I think it makes sense.
It at least makes sense if the goal is competition between roughly similar groups of participants, and not just a single open class dominated by a particular physiology.
In girl chess the pieces are pink.
All of the pieces. On both sides of the board. Mentally it's much more taxing keeping track of which pieces are yours. We guys have it really easy with the whole black/white pieces.
And on average, they only start out with 80% of the pieces of the men's set.
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As is tradition
Fucking hell some of us can be idiots...
Have you met chess bros?
I can see why women would want their own league.
The average chess bro is not a trans woman.
It doesn't in principle, and it's not really either.
There is the main league, which is open for everyone, and an extra league for women only to offset the male dominance of the main league.
Why they feel the need to exclude trans women from that I have no idea. Even many of the physical sports allow trans women under certain conditions and only to prevent any unfair advantage due to increased muscle growth during puberty.
So you're saying that women are not as smart as men?
So women can play chess without the added mental burdens that come along with being a women in a male dominated space.
Women have more places to hide the sex toys.
Edit: it's a bad joke referencing the recent cheating scandal
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah I don't get it either
It’s not gendered. If there is a female super GM she will be invited to the most prestigious tournaments. But there isn’t any… and that’s a whole other debate
Women gated off their league because every their move is commented on as a female one. They can't fail for it's deepens the stereotype of women=stupid and they can't win for it's just man wasn't paying attention or played easy for her. The lack of women chess clubs and championships, the stereotype of it being not a sport for women is why there aren't many high ELO players in this isolated and weird situation.
One of the last strongholds of a fragile male nerd supremacy, that's all.
I'd say, trans is way more experienced at use of anal buds
Women are scared of weak nerdy men or something...