This would get me to actually watch a remake

Hugh Jackman as "hideous non-Muppet Beast", plus he gets to sing and dance. I know he'd jump at the opportunity.

Quick. Call his agent!

Micheal Cane was awesome in the Muppet movie he starred in because he treated his fellow muppets like people.

Tim Curry was awesome in the Muppet movie he starred in because he treated himself like a fellow Muppet.

There's a conversation starter that has popped up in a couple of my friend groups that is similar to this, basically "what movies would be improved by all but one actor being replaced by muppets?" My answer has consistently been Face/Off with Nic Cage as the only human actor. I even threw a poster together...

They don't even have to be high budget either I'd watch the lowest budget muppet remake over the highest budget live action remake anyday

Also why are these recent live action remakes so boring? Even my children couldn't get past five minutes in any of them.

They try to go as close to the source material (their own version) as possible while following a checklist of fixes. That checklist involves things like CinemaSins-tier critiques of the original, and what corporate execs think as "good representation" (the most corporate-safe way, e.g. gay characters that can be cut out for certain audiences, because you need that money from Saudi, Chinese, Russian, etc. audiences), with the latter being the most blamed for the issues. But the actual greatest issue itself is that they try to redo even the stuff that only works within the realms of animation in live action.

Animation relies on exaggeration, which doesn't work in real life, thus getting rid of the most fun part of the animation medium, just to win over the "cartoons are for children" crowd. This leads to stuff like The Lion King "live action" remake, with its expressionless realistic animals acting out what cartoon animals did in a previous, animated version of The Lion King. The same is in to different extents and versions in all the other "live action" remakes.
- They try to go as close to the source material (their own version)
  
  Except they changed Mulan to appease a Chinese audience. Before release everyone thought the remake would be closer to the original story because of the rumor that the movie targeted the Chinese market. But they turned it into a Marvel movie and made Mulan a superhero resulting in that almost everyone disliked the movie.
My understanding of this phenomenon is there is a committee of "You can't eat salsa, that's cultural appropriation" types who have the final edit on them, which is why you get movies like "What if Beauty and the Beast, but more feminist grudge porn, and a 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈GAY🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 character!" or "What if Mulan, but it's about Chinese people so there can't be anything fun or amusing in it, and...look we've got to get rid of this character arc shit. We can't have this character be intrinsically weak and then learn to use her wits to compensate for it. She's a girl, she has to be perfect and effortlessly better than the men from the start or we'll hold our breath. That's what a Strong Female Character is."

That's why they're not fun. People who are not fun are in charge of making them.
- What a garbage answer. You can make fun content and still be inclusive, execs just don't want to take any risks on new IPs because they can milk old ones. Stop blaming inclusiveness when the real answer is greed.
- What if Mulan, but it’s about Chinese people
  
  No singing and dancing in what was originally a musical. A very strange directional choice.
- People who are not fun are in charge of making them.
  
  Sounds like the best definition of Disney so far.
- Nice opinion, did The Quartering or some other chud came it up for you?

they'll make the transformation certifiable body horror

So basically the Muppet Treasure Island and Muppet Christmas Carol treatment for cartoons.

Yes, that would clearly work and Disney is squandering the potential.

You clearly didn't watch Muppet Haunted Mansion.
- I don't remember hearing about Muppet Haunted Mansion, is it good?

imagine the merchandizing potential of a muppet Jedi, and Yoda (the only human) is Danny Devito.

They couldn't do star wars with Yoda being the human. How many Muppet Yoda plushy sales would they be giving up‽
I want to watch Muppet Flubber, where everyone is a muppet except for Flubber. Also, possibly Honey I Shrunk the Muppets with a human Rick Moranis.

This idea makes too much sense and would make way too much money.

Disney board - "Pass"

Have him played by a Hemsworth lol

Or Cavill
- I've seen articles genuinely arguing that "him being such s gamer and obsessed nerd makes him unattractive", they hated that he sided with the fans on Witcher.

This is basically the same strategy that put Lego back on top. And clearly that's working brilliantly.

Aside: Lego was staring into void until they changed leadership and pivoted to this "license everything" strategy. Why? The patent on their bricks was about to expire. Rather than run on brand recognition alone, they embraced something else that nobody else could get. Disney should take note here: any other studio could start cranking out irreverent send-ups of classic fairy tales, but they won't have Muppets.

But aren't the brick composition and manufacturing process trade secrets?
- Sure, but it can't be that hard to reverse engineee plastic bricks. I mean build a mold to size, try a few plastics, and you're done

The Beast's true form should be Sweetums.

Please don't remind current-state Disney of this, unless you want to see yet another beloved franchise destroyed in an inconceivable way.

That seems to be Disney's only achievable direction right now. Massacring all creativity out of everything they own for sake of...I can't even tell anymore, but apparently it's somehow not even money.

We'll end up with a live action The Muppet Movie remake only starring humans.
- That’s so meta I’d actually be interested to see how they pull it off..
  
  Poorly, that’s a given, but beyond that.
It's not just Disney digging the graveyard to sell more rotting remains and wondering why they don't go for top dollar; it's the lot of them. FREAKY FRIDAY is coming out again.

What's next? Non-racist Chitty Chitty bang-bang? Twin child actors again with yet another parent trap?
- A24 presents 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕻𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖓𝖙 𝕿𝖗𝖆𝖕

They are too chicken shit to put out a new story, 90% of the time anyhow

They want the safe bets.

I don't get why people love Muppets so much. I pretty much grew up without it, and I think one time my mom let us take a Muppet movie home from the library when I was a kid, and it was.... Alright. I guess.

Anyone care to explain what they like about about them?

As an adult who grew up on sesame street and the muppets, it's just the unabashed wholesomeness that I love. They were preaching inclusivity when I was growing up in a time/place that tried to force conformity. They weren't cool, they were themselves, and that's never a bad message for kids (or adults).

The newer movie (The Muppets 2011), co-written by Jason Segal, who also grew up with The Muppets, captures that vibe perfectly IMHO.
- I will look for and watch that movie to see what you're talking about!
- Jason Segal is awesome
It’s the craft.

Multiple actors who have played against Sesame Street characters like Elmo have said that they forget there is a human hidden under the puppet - they’re that good.
- Hmm.. If it weren't for those sticks controlling their hands, I might have been convinced too lol.
The show is the best of the muppets, not the movies. Some of them are decent, but judging the show by the movies is like trying to understand SNL by watching Blues Brothers and Night at the Roxbury.
- I'm sorry but Night at the Roxbury is better than SNL.
Mahna Mahna!

Said it before I'll say it again, full original trilogy star wars with Muppets, all human characters are Muppets, all muppet aliens are humans (Jaba, Yoda, etc). It would print money

I can't say about Europe, but Asia doesn't have the cultural pull for the muppets. I suspect China's indifference to the Muppets makes it less lucrative.

They must learn to love them.
- i bet China would love a wuxia muppet film
They did own Winnie the Pooh until 2 years ago. What a missed opportunity in China.
except a muppet movie would be effectively free to produce in comparison to the live action movies, the muppets christmas carol had a budget of 12 million dollars, the live action lion king had a budget of 250 million (jesus christ).

So Beast is Grover?

No, Beast is someone like Brad Pitt without hideous make up. Just normal Brad Pitt and then when the curse is broken he turns into Grover.
- Brad Pitt is too old now, and not large enough. Henry Cavill.
- Alas, Brad is too old (cry for my own younger days).
Nah, gotta be Animal.
- Yes

So … Shrek?

A muppet remake of Shrek?
- I think they mean how Fiona becomes Ms Shrek

same

Love the idea. Now convince Mr Beast to act the human role and promote the movie as his Muppet alter ego.

Something about a human grooming a kidnapped muppet is disturbing to me. I think just make Miss Piggy the beast and Kermit the beauty. Their relationship is already a bit rapey.

Uh... what are you on about? She's not exactly kidnapped or groomed in the original Disney movie...

She's jailed for trespassing, and she grooms him in to not being an angry hateful troll... Not all "grooming" is bad, ffs. Get the entire overarching story correct before you complain about something very, very dumb and wrong...