In a classified document approved in March, the president ordered U.S. forces to prepare for possible coordinated nuclear confrontations with Russia, China and DPRK.
In a classified document approved in March, the president ordered U.S. forces to prepare for possible coordinated nuclear confrontations with Russia, China and North Korea.
Terrifying and irrational state enemies are evil-y mustering their forces...
Anyway, that's why the highest levels of our government secretly formed a plan to literally nuke their countries.
Perfect framing, thank you
Mallory Stewart, the assistant secretary for arms control, deterrence and stability at the State Department, said in an interview that the Chinese government is “actively preventing us from having conversations about the risks.”
Instead, she said, Beijing “seems to be taking a page out of Russia’s playbook that, until we address tensions and challenges in our bilateral relationship, they will choose not to continue our arms control, risk reduction, and nonproliferation conversations.”
These people are genuinely insane. Pure apocalyptic demons. Even cartel drug lords will have more integrity when meeting with rivals to discuss conflict lol
they won't continue arms control, risk reduction, and nonproliferation conversations because they don't want to just provide the US with all the information it needs to figure out how to wipe them out in a first strike
Not to mention the US cotes against anything that limits its arms. They tried to pass a resolution to “ban weapons in space” which Russia and China voted against because an older resolution already banned that while the US’ proposals added a bunch of bullshit that only benefits the US
Jokes aside (of which I'm sure this thread is aplenty), realistically if we're expecting to be at war with China, Russia and North Korea, you know whichever lunatic president is running the murderhouse is definitely going to fire first; if we're actually expecting wholeheartedly that there'll be a nuclear confrontation, the government will absolutely fire first because in a nuclear war you always want to be the first one to fire, and we'll be doing it with countries that genuinely don't even want any confrontation, let alone a nuclear one. To the government it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when (to fire first).
Living on the same planet as America must be like trying to have a nice meal in the vicinity of someone experiencing hyper roid rage.
It’s genuinely freaky to see liberals fully convinced that everyone but the US is belligerent and so diplomacy is pointless. The irony is lost on them.
you know whichever lunatic president is running the murderhouse is definitely going to fire first
It will happen after the first American loss
Any war will begin with a propaganda campaign that will make the ravenous countrywide bloodthirst of 2001 look positively quaint. You'd see "reasonable liberal" reporters from the NYT and MSNBC on the verge of using slurs, while Fox is straight up calling for the annihilation of all [slurs]
The very second the first US carrier is sunk by a hypersonic missile is the second the US goes into full Khornate blood rage and the president, whoever they are, begins firing every last nuclear weapon at whoever sank the carrier
In the event that the nukes start flying as a result of Operation Corn Pop, I would just like to say that it has been an honor and a privilege posting with all of you ladies, m'theydies, and gentlesirs.
Thank you everyone here for both shit and effort posts if I don't make it through the nuclear bombings and fallout. If I do I will try to spread as much knowledge about post-bombing electronics and how to emulate on them as I can.
There was a post yesterday about statement from Palantir that said the same thing - that the US would face a three front war. Some lemmitor lib got real reddity about how it doesn't mean anything if Palantir says that because they're a private company and not the US government.
There was a post yesterday about statement from Palantir that said the same thing - that the US would face a three front war. Some lemmitor lib got real reddity about how it doesn't mean anything if Palantir says that because they're a private company and not the US government.
Reminder that China only pursued nukes after the US threatened to nuke Fujian province during the second Taiwan straight crises. So I guess the chickens came home to roost once again. Also, down with war mongers. China was first to make the no first use pledge 60 years ago, why won't the US to this day?
This wasn't an idle threat either by the US, they had Nike Hercules missiles, capable of carrying nuclear warheads, on the island of Taiwan.
The shift comes as the Pentagon believes China’s stockpiles will rival the size and diversity of the United States’ and Russia’s over the next decade.
except much newer and probably likely to function if you start launching yours dipshit
Unfortunately it probably doesn't take many to start nuclear winter but how much responsibility do the networks of contractors and oligarchs scamming public funds hand over fist in every other area possibly take for stockpile maintenance? the things that end the world if used?
it really would be divine comedy if US tried to start a nuclear war and their nukes ended up failing to launch due to lack of maintenance and skills needed to keep them operational
Probably best case scenario as I struggle to see them not starting nuclear war. I mean, in practice they only have a 50% hit rate. Two in Japan and one in Spain. And the ones in Japan were fresh.
Fortunately nuclear winter is likely impossible and wouldn’t happen the way we portray it in fiction. Unfortunately the massive radiation damage to our planet would be very, very real.
This one cites a lot of the recent literature on soot injection but I haven't read much in terms of counterarguments
Even if the estimated soot is 10x less than predicted, a large scale nuclear war and the resulting nuclear winter would still be expected to cause a billion deaths from famine as forecast here
We have volcanic winter as an example of how nuclear winter will look. Good thing is it would last at most a couple of year. Bad thing is that a lot of people would starve in those couple of years. Radiation damage would be pretty limited and localized compared to agriculture disruption due to nuclear winter.
Not to add to the scary factor, and probably not related, and completely unverified: a work colleague who was a specialist in a military branch was recalled recently and were supposed to be back by now but apparently they may not be back for an undetermined amount of time.......
if these people are the ones drafting official plans, maybe there's hope the US would completely fail to persecute a nuclear war. fucks sake 4 years ago you didn't think the DPRK and China's nuclear programmes would be coordinated? that if nukes were flying toward Russia through Chinese territory the yanks could just pinky-promise to China they're for Russia and they'd keep theirs away?
so goddamned foolish. i think you could sell half the pentagon and their 'think tanks' the brooklyn bridge. simultaneously.
if nukes were flying toward Russia through Chinese territory the yanks could just pinky-promise to China they're for Russia and they'd keep theirs away?
Given China's extreme confidence in "peaceful" "collaboration" shit there is a non-zero chance they'd believe this. They would give exactly the same reason people give here today "oh why should we involve our 1.4 billion people in a nuclear war in Europe?"
In any case whether we agree on this or not, first and foremost you're aware that US nukes would fly over the north pole not Asia?
You're right about everything else, these people suck and they're idiots.
the US nukes sub in the pacific, if they got involved, would be launched in the pacific. "Territory" was an awkward word to use because it's well beyond any country's actual borders where they'd be concerned and threatened by missiles with trajectories that look like they could hit them. say a missile headed toward Vladivostok will look like it could hit a lot of shit in northern China, whichever direction it comes from