The Fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor called Loops
The Fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor called Loops
Similar to how Mastodon offers an open source, distributed version of X, the fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor. This week, an app called
The Pixelfed guy does good work, but video hosting/streaming is the most difficult use-case to compete in due to infrastructure costs; I'm interested to see how he's planning to handle this and I wish him luck.
Also there is no casino algorithm showing you what big data knows will make you stay for a while.
In TikTok or instagram reels, you don't follow people you like. You just watch stuff happening.
In TikTok or instagram reels, you don’t follow people you like. You just watch stuff happening.
That's actually the whole point of TikTok, what made it different when it started. An app for short videos where you follow people you like is more of a Snapchat competitor, not TikTok.
I think that pixelfed guy has a big problem with commitment, he has so many unfinished/unpolished projects, and he'd be able to do so much more if he wasn't starting something new every other month.
Yeah okay, so it sounds like he's the kind of guy who'll build a framework, or most of it, and won't ever really become capable of hosting a lot of videos at a watchable quality.
Technically he'll probably have built something basically functional the community could rally behind and get going. But that won't happen, because the people who care about the Fediverse are few, insufficiently resourceful, and most importantly don't care about shorts.
I think federated non-profit video platforms won't work on large scale without P2P.
Snapchat would have been easier in that sense
Hmm, they managed to get on techcrunch. Impressive. So many little fediverse projects just don't.
Loops is not yet open sourced, nor has it completed its integration with ActivityPub, the protocol that powers Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, and other federated apps.
Ah, it's a startup with a hypeman budget that might federate, that's why.
Edit: Although it's by the Pixelfed guy and run by donation?
I signed up and never got the verification email. It happened to basically everyone else that signed up too. Weird. Looks like the “official launch” was actually the “beginning of beta test”, weird how they marketed it as an “official launch”.
the creator delayed the launch because he had to write the legalese for the service, and on top of that I think he's waiting for the app stores to approve the app (the service isn't available through a browser).
Theres no web app? That seems short sighted. You apparently cant access anything without logging either. I dont expect these shorts to get much viewership if you have to register and download an app to see anything. It also doesnt seem in the spirit of the fediverse
I thought that what he literally called it. Public Beta
Isn't "soft launch" the usual term for this?
Can’t wait for federated LinkedIn and indeed next.
Oh no, not sure I want that.
The reason I'm not sure, is because I woke up at 5 am to do my morning run while making cold calls and preparing to open another business because my baby was born 2 hours before and taught me about B2B marketing in AI powered age.
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no actual product available, lets spam it everywhere. awesome.
hard not to feel like someone isnt countin eggs as chickens here
Hello?
You heard them, you're in charge of video hosting now.
I'm fine with it, if its not invasive in privacy and does not collect all the information. And if its a bit better moderated.
Suspicious use of “competitor” is suspicious.
I hope that floating navbar style doesn't become mainstream. Distracting to the point of making me sick.
I don't have TikTok myself but having seen my friends show videos from their screen I think it's absolutely hideous how half of the video is covered with comments and buttons and shit. That would be a total dealbreaker for me.
This is lovely, even though I’m absolutely not interested.
What's next? Fediverse Amazon?
Just stop 😂
A decentralized marketplace would honestly be pretty sick as long as they can figure out how to ensure people don't't get scammed
"Sick" as in "slick?" "Good?" (Going to add "clueless oldster" to the description on my BH profile page).
Along the lines of a "Fediverse Amazon", @petrescatraian@libranet.de told me about flohmarkt, which does look interesting. One of its instances can be viewed here.
IMO we need to break it in a few independent but cooperating decentralized systems;
- A transportation service where consumers will request the transportation of goods or people from point A to point B, and providers will make bids for those requests.
- A storage service where providers will offer storage of goods at specific locations, and consumers that make requests for the storage.
- A LC service, where two parties can enter an letter-of-credit (LC) contract, and providers can guarantee the contract.
If these systems are available, it would be possible to implement additional decentralized services like;
- Marketplaces.
- Passenger transportation services.
- Food delivery.
- Probably many more.
So… doomed?
Why? Is it bad providing alternatives? Especially as it is Fediverse based, which is federated and not controlled by a single company. And being compatible to Fediverse protocol means you can use any application.
Imagine something like Amazon, a central place you go and everyone who federates with it can sell products. I'm not against it.
Fediverse is underpopulated cringe, this place is dead compared to everywhere else I go