I guess it's easy to blame your lack of success with women on your height or dick size instead of facing the fact that they would still be unfuckable if they were 7 feet tall and had an 8 inch dick
I spent over 40 years of my life telling people that I'm 5'11", only to find out a couple years ago I'm actually 186cm, and my mother has no idea how to use a tape measure. Which also explains why the baseboards she measured out for when we finished her basement never fit correctly.
So in all my autistic glory, I subbed to /r/short because I am a petite person and thought it would have content related to being height challenged - these are the best step stools, here are some hilarious short people memes, etc
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didn't take me long to figure out how wrong I was, but I did waste a little more time trying to tell them that two of the hottest dudes I had dated were under 5'8" - one of them was barely an inch taller than me, and I'm below-average for American women. The fact that I didn't the up marrying the short dudes meant I was another height-obsessed feeeeemale. 🙄
Back in the day I was subbed to /r/tall because I am tall, and the best part of the sub was short people coming over to comment on how much nicer the tall sub was than the short one. We were mostly trading tips on clothes that fit and desks that wouldn't give us back pain, while our nominally sibling sub was just raging about us existing.
I am not a short king but I am a straight cis Asian guy, and this at least somewhat true and I did not know it until I did serious work on myself and actually pinpointed the behaviors of mine that were clearly my insecurity and desperation to be liked seeping out (speaking in generalities to myself and others, name-dropping stuff I thought would make me cool, reacting by matching my tone and enthusiasm to that of the person speaking to me rather than giving a more organic response that's less of a departure from what I felt deep down.)
A lot of these short guys, like Asian incels, bond over insecure feelings and observations they independently arrived at due to them being the first level thoughts of any guy who's unlucky romantically due to having a stereotypically negative trait. They believe these feelings and observations are them getting a peek at an unlocked well of truth, rather than equally resigned quitters validating one another's ideas borne out of self loathing and the need to have a mentally placative answer for indecipherable and unpredictable social dynamics.
Just like how, when an Asian incels sees an Asian guy being confident with girls they auto-assume that guy was adopted by whites/had Americanized parents/is gay, then tell each other that as if it's a shared universal rule, bitter short guys will see some short guy who dates women taller and hotter than him and tell each other that the guy must be rich/famous/large penised/ex military.
These kinds of online social groups/subreddits are literally anti-achievement and self-growth. The more their shared lore is outspun to try to comprehensively and objectively catalog the hard and fast rules of a nebulous and volatile reality, the more detached from normalcy they become and the further they are away from having dating success or even natural human interactions.
As a fellow Asian who's tried dating in the West, I definitely agree that the Asian incel movement is a terrible response to the gendered racism which pervades many Westoid societies. Working on yourself and making meaningful changes is always the better option though I feel like this is the dating equivalent of a racist job market where an Asian person has to be twice as good as a mid white guy just to be considered on the same level.
Maybe it's a lot different now than when I was last "on the market" many years ago.
I've heard people claim they carry around tape measures to check if someone is actually 6' or just 5'11". Some dude once told me on Reddit that he was 6'3" but would tell people that he was 6' to skew peoples perceptions of what that looked like to make shorter men feel bad or something.
As someone who is on the short side, if you're just normal about it it's fine. Same with having a small dick. Whatever actual problems these things cause in your life pale in comparison to what you can do to yourself with insecurity and jealousy
What communities do you even frequent..? May I suggest that you don't?
As a Dutch guy in China, my height is brought up a lot, and I know Westerners who moved to Asia because they fetishize the feeling of being taller. I just make jokes that I'm taller in the morning than the evening, or joke that I used to be taller when I was still wearing high heels (for the times that I was able to stand up right and not with my ass on the ground).
Your title might as well say: What's up with terminally online people and hyper-focusing on minute issues to distract themselves from their bad personalities or lousy socio-economic backgrounds?
One fun thing I've noticed being a tall Chinese guy in Asia is that often wirey white dudes will give me the death glare on the street for absolutely no reason. Like I'm stealing their schtick just by existing.
You can't stop people from having preferences but personally I think anyone who broadcasts a preference based on immutable physical characteristics should be seen as shallow in the same way as a dudebro who proudly proclaims that he only dates blondes or whatever.
The flip side of the "everyone has preferences" coin is that many people will interpret that as a go ahead to openly say shit like "no blacks, no Asians, no Indians" on their profiles.
COMPLETELY anecdotal but i've had much less success (solely in terms of quantity of matches) on Hinge (which forces you to list your height) vs Tinder (where I leave it unlisted), plus i'm more the stereotypical "hinge type" (sensitive softboy). it's a thing on the apps IME but it's some smoothbrain shit to blame individual women rather than patriarchal norms of attraction and beauty. and like yeah some of them on there are insensitive and dickish about it but that just filters someone you probably wouldn't like? plus the apps incentivize all kinds of callous and inconsiderate shit.
(fwiw i'm 5'6", shorter than the male average but taller than most women in the US).
There used to be (might still be?) a reddit and a counter subreddit called like "smalldickproblems" (and bigdickproblems). The latter, I'm 99% sure, is a joke one. Unless someone has a giant tripod situation going on, I can't really see that being an issue. And I played enough sports/spent enough time in locker rooms to know that's not the case for the vast majority of men (👀)
The SDP sub was insane though. TMI or whatever, my dick is probably a little on the small side for my height, which is average. I've never lied about my height knowingly. I've never pretended to have a huge cock or whatever. And I've also never had a sexual partner complain about either. Spoiler for younger people who may genuinely not know: your dick size doesn't matter for the purposes of sex and pleasure from sex to... most people.
Basically, guys: stop being weird. Or continue because it makes it super easy for non-weirdos to look good in comparison. (But seriously stop being weird guys)
I lie that I'm shorter than I actually am to men. Sometimes they lie about their heights to me too. When we meet there can be a pretty big difference lol.
I’ll be honest, being a 5’1 guy in the US in the 2000’s was not the best experience and I’m sure I would have likely become an incel under the right circumstance. It’s been a lot better since coming back to Guatemala where i’m still below average but not by nearly as much.
I’m a little sympathetic to shorter incels because it isn’t easy being a short man and many will find it socially acceptable to say nasty shit to your face. Look at how people respond to Ben Shapiro.
It’s not even incels either. The trans male subreddit is full of them complaining about how it sucks being a short man because they don’t feel like “real men.”
Also the “I only date men 6 feet and over” types exist and they tend to be shorter women in the 16-25 age range. That’s who I heard it from the most and they’d make sure I knew that even when I wasn’t showing any interest in them.
The most sought after trait in a guy is being chill and not being a psycho but that's so rare may as well be a myth.
On the other hand I do have a problem in general with how much society at large fixates on height. I'm not talking about dating preferences here just in general. I know I'm gonna get some hate for this but I'm making this in good faith not to argue about dating preferences.
Maybe its specifically my life experience but I'm a shorty and fucking christ almighty everyone will make it their life objective to make sure you don't forget it. It actually makes work life quite miserable because every new person I'm forced to meet the first comment generally is about my height followed by talking down to me, treating me like a child, sometimes ignoring my presence completely. Also if someone has the same name as me I'm automatically referred to as "little gorb" which is rather demeaning. Sometimes doesn't even need to have a person with the same name I'm just little gorb regardless. These prefixes aren't given for positive traits they feel intentionally insulting like being short is your defining characteristic before your own name.
I haven't personally cared about my height for ages but other people care about it more than I do and that's weird and should stop along with all other forms of body shaming.