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What's your pet peeve when it comes to tropes? What bothers you when you see it in a show or a movie?

I'll go first. Mine is the instant knockout drug. Like Dexter's intramuscular injection that causes someone to immediately lose consciousness. Or in the movie Split where there's the aerosol spray in your face that makes you instantly unconscious. Or pretty much any time someone uses chloroform.

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  • Nonsensical or thoroughly debunked technobabble. The most annoying for me is faster than light communication via quantum entangled particles. Yes entangled particles will change each other's state faster than light but this effect CANNOT be used to send information of any kind. At all. Ever. This has been known since engagement was first discovered but Hollywood is always like "I'm just going to ignore that second part." I don't even have anything against ftl comms or any other physics breaking things, just use an explanation that isn't literally impossible and well known why it's impossible for God's sake.

    • Better yet, don't use an explanation at all!

      If you just establish something as just being part of your setting that is accepted by the characters in it like it's no big deal, you can just move on with the actual plot. If it's not actually going to be relevant to anything plot wise, don't waste time with useless technobabble!

      Slap a "Zephyr FTL Communications" logo on the side of the terminal and call it a day. The audience doesn't always need to know how, just what. And show, don't tell.

      You can have a character exposition dump about a piece of tech that should be as normal to the other characters as a telephone (so why would anyone talk about it existing casually outside of very specific circumstances), or just... have the character use the damn thing and add a little splash screen on the device "Thank you for using Cisco Intergalactic FTL calls".

    • As long as they pull a /r/VXJunkies:

      Looking for a double-helix transistor to magnify your oblidisk? Want to discuss ballooning algorithms or Dormison's Paradox? Ever wondered about Swedish teutonic logic commands, the Hans-Rodenheim Law of Vectoral Momentum, Fankel readings, Mornington axions, the Armistan Codex, Envels, or the newest breakthroughs in ion insulate module technology?

      Or this Technobabble, I'm OK with it.

      • Video is a classic.

        The comments going along with it as so good.

    • Why?

  • Chefs and cooks scattering as a fight is taking place in the kitchen.

    Good people listen: this is a small containment of probably tired, most likely angry, and definitely hungover professionals (armed with a variety of sharp, stabby instruments) that are working their ass off on deadlines... YOU DID NOT JUST KNOCK OVER MY TRAY OF 700 PETIT FOURS FOR TONIGHTS RECEPTION!!!

    MOTHER! FUCKER! Would most likely be followed by a royal (icing) ass kicking.

  • Normalization of the protagonist using violence before any attempt of diplomacy, without the narrative condemning this action

  • Coffee/drink cups that have nothing in them. At least put water in them so they don't look obviously empty. Lol

    • This can still be problematic for other reasons, like sound. But I agree, they need weight (or better actors...).

  • when they try to make you sympathize with an unredeemably evil character. like the mirror universe giorgieu in startrek discovery, who was literally "worse than hitler" but they decided they wanted upstanding dogooder characters to love her for some reason

  • When they provide exposition about something that lead to the current story, but the exposition is about something way more interesting than what is happening in the current movie because the current movie is just generic whatever.

  • I don't know if this is a trope or not but I hate it when movies fail to live up to their potential.

    The new Beetlejuice movie is like that.

    (I'll try for no spoilers)

    There's a couple of events that are shown as really big ordeals, huge events that you could base the entire movie around, and then the movie rug pulls your expectations and just kind of brushes those huge issues aside like it's nothing.

    And part of me gets it that that's like a Beetlejuice thing, not complying with your expectations, but in this case I feel like the movie was made much worse for it and they should have really reconsidered doing the things they did.

    It just made the entire movie feel like there were no actual risks, nothing bad can possibly happen, there's nothing scary or dangerous in the world.

    It's like everybody in the movie was bored of living in that universe. It was ridiculous.

    I watch movies for escapism and I don't want to see the people that I'm escaping from my life watching escaping from their lives in the same process, having everything handed to them without having to work for it, with no real risks and no real adventure and no real humanity in their story.

    And I'm honestly kind of surprised at how many movies lately have failed to give real stakes, real risks to the main characters, real goals to achieve, a real character to operate with, or has attempted to elevate the genre in any way.

    It's all same same and it's really sad.

  • Magic computers that can sharpen and enlarge a grainy CCTV frame enough that you can read what people are typing on their phone.

    The American president that goes "gee-haw we really need to stop Voldemort so the people of Agrabad can enjoy democracy and human rights!"

    The divorced single-parent cop who struggles to make family life work despite being good at solving big scary crime.

    The "we just want to do senseless evil for no apparent reason" terrorists

  • The bad guy that is omniscient and omnipresent. Everywhere you go, oops! There's the bad guy and he totally kicks your ass and ruins your plans.

    We call it Neganing. He's the reason I eventually stopped watching the Walking Dead.

    Or like Sylar (from Heroes), where the writers find a baddie they just love too much to kill so the whole show becomes about them.

  • The fat funny character.

    The "I can fix them" love interest.

    Any situation that could have been resolved with any modicum of healthy communication.

    Superheroes that cause more damage to the place they're trying to "save".

  • Talking head montages, especially at the beginning of a movie or TV show. I think directors try to ground some fiction in reality by having a bunch of news reporters comment on some event but as someone who tries to avoid that garbage it just feels like the movie is made for someone else and it's been used so many times it's irritating.

    Also product placement seeing a soda can or car perfectly framed to see the brand name or logo cheapens any sense of artistic integrity and feels like watching an advertisement.

    And if I can indulge in a meta trope of streaming service monetization since it's become so common these days having a subscription + ad tier. Sub no ads or ads no sub, mixing them is the same greed as cable TV and shouldn't be supported by subscribing (Disney, HBO Max, prime, Netflix, etc).

  • Die off-screen? Definitely alive and will show up the next act.

    • The problem with this one is that, as a reader/watcher/whatever, it affects your experience even when it doesn't happen. I was so convinced that Dumbledore was alive at the end of book six. Fell off a balcony? Point of view character gets dragged to the infirmary so we can't see what happens after that? There's a phoenix, a bird associated with healing and rebirth, conspicuously singing? That guy is pulling a Gandalf in the next book for sure.

      So I spent the whole next book waiting for the dramatic reveal that never came...

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