So many "classic rock" celebrities wound up being kiddie creepers (and even singing about it!) that lyrics that say "baby" really bother me these days.
So many "classic rock" celebrities wound up being kiddie creepers (and even singing about it!) that lyrics that say "baby" really bother me these days.
That's it. That's the post. I can't stop making the connection to those songs. 
Many of them have also revealed themselves to be suffering from transphobic brain rot, like Twisted Sister, Kiss and Alice Cooper. The same guys who were genderbending as part of "glam rock" and wore make-up, feminine outfits, and "challenged gender norms", are now whining about trans people being a fad and parents allowing kids to freely express their gender identity.
Boomers really are not okay.I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering how that scene was rife with sexism and misogyny. Those things always seem to go hand in hand with transphobia. It's just fucking ironic how chuds are now embracing these dweebs because of their transphobia, while 40 years ago these same artists were considered satanic and a danger to children by reactionaries.
I mean it sucks, but it kinda makes sense in a twisted way that the cis guys who embraced gender-bending culture in order to be predatory are now worried that that's all the transgender movement is. Its all projection, like the homophobic in the closey religious types that turn out to be massive deviants.
It's just fucking ironic how chuds are now embracing these dweebs because of their transphobia, while 40 years ago these same artists were considered satanic and a danger to children by reactionaries.
I have an idea for a trolling bit. I think you know where I'm going with this.
Ted Nugent LITERALLY has a song called "Jailbait" and yet he's supposed to be saving the democrat sex trafficked children with Trump.
"She's Only Seventeen" is another well known and horrible song from creeps.
many rock stars learned music to get attention from teenage girls. which is okay at first, because they were teenage boys. the problem is when they become adults and don't grow out of it, and fame+money makes it very easy for them to be predators. the entire music industry is designed to facilitate this behavior.
rock music has fallen out of the mainstream but we still see this with a lot of famous rappers for example (Diddy, Drake, etc)
rock music has fallen out of the mainstream
Wesley Willis rocks on in my heart, though.
I am not even that big of a fan of the Beatles (especially not John Lennon and his domestic violence enjoying) but as far as I know they didn't actually creep on any of their many, many teenage fans. Maybe I'm wrong there but it made me hope there was like one band I could remember the name of from the "classic rock" era that didn't have creeps in it.
I thought about it for a few minutes, and the only band i could think of from that era that might not be full creeps was Blue Oyster Cult, but that's because I know basically nothing about the band member's private lives.
You could point to the lyrics "Well she was just 17, you know what I mean" by the Beatles but I think McCartney was fresh 20 when he wrote that about his high school girlfriend as their first single off their first album so they weren't that famous.
The Beatles were too busy going after each others wives to chase teenagers.
I thought Jackson Browne was fine, then I searched him up and he has DV allegations.
Motorhead had a song called "Jailbait" and uh...holy shit.
wtf cw:exactly what you think
Teenage baby, you're a sweet young thing
Still tied to Mummy's apron strings
I don't even dare to ask your age
It's enough to know you're here backstage
You're jailbait
And I just can't wait
Jailbait baby, come on
One taste baby, all I need
My decision made at lightning speed
I don't even want to know your name
It's enough to know you feel the same
Jailbait
I just can't wait
Jailbait baby, get down
Hey!
Love that young stuff
Tell me baby, oh you look so fine
Send quivers up and down my spine
I don't care about our different ages
I'm an open book with well thumbed pages
Jailbait
I ain't too late
Jailbait baby, get down
Right now
I'm never listening to Motorhead again.
So many other bands have that sound, you'll be fine.
I always found being very uncomfortable listening to Motorhead and I guess this really helped me explain that and glad I never liked them much because good lord is that fucking godawful.
Isn't Lemmy literally a libertarian?
Filmmakers, too.
Oh yes, especially some kinds of filmmakers: the "auteur" creeps that get special cultural license to be creeps for decades with no consequences as an assumed cost of doing business with them.
I'm just happy that Kubrick seems to not have been one of them. Even when adapting very dark stories where he could have tried to get away with "but that's the age of the characters in the original" he had the good sense to age-up troublingly-young characters. There's a particularly notorious scene in the original A Clockwork Orange novel that he handled perfectly in the adaptation. Anyone familiar with the movie knows the scene where Alex has a consensual threesome with these two adult women.
But in the original novel, they're both 10 years old and not consenting whatsoever.
Listening to the song "My Sharona"
noticing the lyrics and thinking about them for 1/16th of a second
On second thoughts, listen to Weird Al's"my bologna" instead?
It's so wild how normalized that shit was for so long. A cursed fact I know off the top of my head is that CP wasn't criminalized in the US until the 70s, so the boomers grew up with it being totally legal.
I did not know that and now I'm horrified retroactively, like finding a hook-hand on the car door handle.
Back in the 70s all this pedo shit was just out in the open in the West. I once saw an old US lip gloss ad targeted at young girls, which had a sexualized pre-teen girl wearing make-up in her undies with some very creepy "baby girl" marketing surrounding the whole thing.
At least in here in Europe, there were also movies released in theater back then that had CP in them. I remember reading about one movie that was eventually banned in some Western countries after people complained, but you could still go to any West German theater and watch your Italian kiddie porn there.
I once had a boomer tell me that back in the day you could just walk into a video rental store, and it would have a dedicated CP section. All very normal!
i worked at a place that had boomer rock on all the time and one song i hated was what's your name where the chorus is literally LITTLE GIRL WHAT'S YOUR NAME
FUCK that's gross, especially looking back.
Then they died in a plane crash
Happily ever after.
Except the one who survived, and then got shot by a landowner who thought he was trespassing
Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.
The song is delivered from the point of view of a man who has become distressed upon finding out that the girl he is with, contrary to the first impression she had made upon him, is actually younger than the legal age of consent. He is asking her to leave before things go any further: "Get out of here / before I have the time / to change my mind / 'cause I'm afraid we'll go too far".
It reached #2 on the charts. #1 in the UK.
Nonce Island stays noncing
I was talking about this with a friend years ago how fucking common it was for the classic rockstars (mostly of previous generations to what we listened to, but sadly some more recent too) to be full on pedos. I did a little bit of reading on the subject and it is gut-churning. Not just how ubiquitous it was, but also how largely accepted it was (and continues to be), and also how severe so much of it was.
Content Warning on the rest of this comment from here on out. Gary Glitter is probably the most egregious and well known as far as like Epstein level offenses, you can look him up if you want the sickening details. Obvious huge CW if you do. There's another name that always comes up with this stuff that I'm hesitant to even mention because he was more of a nobody than a true rockstar and became famous more for his crimes and how extreme they were than for his music, though his band did have a following that he drew his victims from. NSFL kind of shit.
If we were to make a list, it might be easier to name the major classic rock stars that weren't creepers in some way. Like Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page "dating" the same 14 year old girl Lori Maddox (major CW here: common term for her was that she was a "baby groupie") at the same time, and like David Bowie was involved with her too somehow? The bassist for the Rolling Stones (Wyman) was 47 in a "relationship" with a 13 year old. The drummer for the Eagles was in legal trouble regarding a 16 year old. Then there's Pete Townsend of The Who getting caught paying with his credit card for CSAM but used the excuse that he was trying to catch the predators and do "research" regarding his own abuse. I don't know enough about that one, maybe he doesn't belong on the same list, but it seems pretty sus. People in the thread mentioning the "Little girl, what's your name?" lyrics and that's Lynard Skynard. And of course My Sharona. There's a bunch of songs I can't remember atm saying the same kind of thing. I think Iggy Pop also has some lyrics about some of his known underage fans. Stephen Tyler (Aerosmith) and fucking Ted Nugent both became "legal guardians" of underage girls for the reasons you are correctly assuming but wish you weren't. Jerry Lee Lewis famously married his 13 year old cousin. Elvis Presley and Priscilla was like 14. List goes on.
I was talking about this with a friend years ago how fucking common it was for the classic rockstars (mostly of previous generations to what we listened to, but sadly some more recent too) to be full on pedos. I did a little bit of reading on the subject and it is gut-churning. Not just how ubiquitous it was, but also how largely accepted it was (and continues to be), and also how severe so much of it was.
"Separate art from artist" mantra chanting isn't new, though it got reworded a few times. In my youth I was told that in "different times" (often "better times" according to not-as-old boomers around me!) that was normal and cool and good and "political correctness" (what is now called "DEI" and used to be called "woke" and before that "SJW") is the reason that they can't have as much "fun" as they used to, like when Playboy Magazine had articles where predatory old men described, openly, how much they wanted to violate child actresses of that current time.
Your list of musicians that I didn't yet know were predators will take some time for me to sort through. Fuck's sake, even the Eagles...
Fuck's sake, even the Eagles...
I never really knew anything about Gary Glitter, so I assumed he was some beloved glam rock star with tons of songs people recognize, when in reality he's closer to a one hit wonder (and they still play that song at sporting events).
There's another name that always comes up with this stuff that I'm hesitant to even mention because he was more of a nobody than a true rockstar and became famous more for his crimes and how extreme they were than for his music, though his band did have a following that he drew his victims from.
I can think of one guy, although he's definitely not ”classic rock”.
It just makes the boomers whole "forever young" ethos all the more creepy. They really did become the generation that had a mid-life crisis that never ended and made it everyone's problem.
Oh yeah, and with all the shit about Diddy, Drake, Epstein, Mike Jeffries, (probably) Trump and Musk. How many of these creeps are our neighbors but the only thing that ultimately stopped them is the fact they know even they would be caught?
It just makes the boomers whole "forever young" ethos all the more creepy. They really did become the generation that had a mid-life crisis that never ended and made it everyone's problem.
I used to think "mid-life crisis" was an inevitability when I saw it presented on screens when I was a kid: that someday I'd be in my 40s and need to be in denial about it and have a convertible and a leisure suit and try to hit on women half my age.
That was just boomers telling on themselves. I'm well into my 40s and that didn't happen, not even in a "wearing neon and spiking my hair 80s style" way.
When you notice the sheer number of "classic rock" songs that are explicitly about creeping on children it's hard to go back. The stories about groups like Led Zeppelin are disturbing
I may have to give up entirely on the genre; there just isn't much left that I wouldn't feel disgusted by listening to it and picking up the subtext that was always there.
Can't find it anymore but there was a short called like "every classic rock song before 1985" that went
Girl, you're 15 years old
And you're beautiful, and I'm
35
I probably took more psychic damage from being bombarded by classic rock at the auto parts where I worked than I realize.
I used to just nod along to music played by boomers I was in the car with at the time and the more I look back the more fucked up so many of those songs were.
Can’t blame you. Feel the same way when I hear “babygirl” in a song
It's very offputting to me too.
Don’t listen to ‘je suis un rock star’ dawg
I remember "je suis" being said by edgelords in reference to specific underaged anime characters for a while in the internet wild.
Damn, I hear "je suis" and think of the Jonathan Coulton song, "Je Suis Rick Springfield."
Assuming you're talking about the Bill Wyman song, that isn't even the worst thing about him.
I immediately thought of Jethro Tull's Aqualung
And then I came of age listening to metalcore and deathcore. Lotta similar shit. Just SA and DV allegations/charges left and right. Warped Tour was a mistake. They knew and they didn’t do shit. Not to mention so many of the lyrics were about raging at your ex girlfriend or some similar implied relationship.
Not to mention so many of the lyrics were about raging at your ex girlfriend or some similar implied relationship
Early 2000s emo stuff was similarly
to me because a lot of lyrics had a misogynistic aspect.Not entirely relevant to this, but I remember when the singer of the band Champion was revealed to be a child predator.
thinking about the joke with the manager from Big Time Rush where all his songs had "baby" in the title
One of the main arguments for why ”cancel culture” is bullshit is that all of this still gets played, even from people like Steven Tyler who we know for sure are pedos.
How many rich predators on
's guest lists have seen a day of prison for what they did?
Classic rockers can’t say “baby” anymore, only “mama.” Because woke.
Anyone know if prog rock has any problematic elements? I already know Rush are turbo cringe libertarian Ayn Rand
