You receive an emergency alert: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL." What do you do? How do you think your neighborhood will react? What memes be on Lemmy?
Like this:
But replace "Hawaii" with your location.
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We were in this scenario last year, when NK launched a missile towards Hokkaido, and we were on the west coast, just next to a nuclear reactor.
After getting the altert, we put on clothes, went downstairs to the sturdiest room, stuck on the TV to the NHK news, and waited. The missle plopped into the ocean off the coast, and we had tempura for lunch.
There's really nothing you can do in these situations but stay calm and do the small, sensible things.
Modern nuclear reactors won't meltdown if shot, just turn off so only gonna be more dangerous if they specifically target electricity infrastructure
Modern nuclear reactors won’t meltdown if shot
we hope. never having tested nearby strikes, there's no way to know how resilient to catastrophe these things are, and even when over-engineered with an eye on safety in the worst conditions, fukushima illustrates that everything can go wrong in a cascade and still render them unsafe.
honestly, coastal nuclear power stations like diablo canyon and fukushima are going to be interacting with larger and more violent storms in the future, and tsunamis etc., perhaps there are better places for them.
Not to make anyone nervous, but dropping a fuckass big missile on a pile of very secure and safe nuclear material will still scatter that material in a wide area, and wind will make it worse.
But no, making a modern nuclear suffer a meltdown is basically impossible
Sure, but a nuclear power plant could be a potential target. The nuclear warhead is the concern.
If they are built and maintained correctly. And meltdown isn't the only problem that could occur.
I don't have much faith in a corrupt, self-regulated industry, with strong yakuza ties, to do things 100% the correct way, especially given everything we know about the industry post 2011. Knowing how much local political power the company has, I know they could literally get away with murder, as no politician or police would want to be on their bad side.
Don't get me wrong, the missile was still the biggest threat, but I do believe the power plant isn't necessarily safe. An engineering and/or scientific understanding of a modern power plant doesn't mean shit if you don't consider the political and capitalist systems the that underpin their construction and maintenance.
At my current location, I'd expect it to be an error, since I'm about 1500 miles away from the nearest worthwhile target (Chilean Antartica Region).
Remember that sailor you won that hand of poker against? The one who stalked away mad? Well he has a brother in the missile command...
Those penguins have it coming.
nooo 😭
I'd immediately go into the basement and start memeing. I have redundant internet connections for these kinds of situations so I should still be able to post memes. I'm locally hosting a Mastodon instance so I can post even if the internet is down globally. I also have a TCP-over-HF setup so that I can post memes anywhere in the world without intermediate infrastructure. If humanity is completely destroyed, I would start memeing and rickrolling on cave walls for future generation
TCP-over-HF
I am quite interested in that. How did you achieve it? Is there some license-free band? As far as I know encryption is not allowed for any ham radio transmissions. What's the bandwidth? It seems packet radio on HF is 300 baud.
I mean, I've got a WAN connection and two Sim Cards connected to different mobile providers, but at some point they probably all depend on parts of the same infrastructure.
Maybe I should look into some distributed networking stuff...
I do the same thing for a missile alert that I do for a tornado alert...
Film it from my front porch as it gets uncomfortably close, while my wife screams in the background for me to get back in the house.
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What a dumb message. Of course this is not a drill. This is a phone. My drill doesn't have the means to accept incoming messages.
This ain't my dad! This is a cell phone!
Happy birthday to the ground!
you need to acquire a better drill then
The man sitting next to Ford was a bit sozzled by now. His eyes weaved their way up to Ford.
'I thought,’ he said ‘that if the world was going to end we were meant to lie down or put a paper bag over our head or something.’
‘If you like, yes,’ said Ford. ‘That’s what they told us in the army,’ said the man, and his eyes began the long trek back towards his whisky. ‘Will that help?’ asked the barman. ‘No,’ said Ford and gave him a friendly smile.
He should've had his towel.
Nothing. Everyone is going to get the same alert and freak the fuck out, clogging all the roads, making it impossible to get to a shelter.
I have 2 choices:
Option number C. Just pretend like nothing happened, probably a false alarm like last time.
Whats the worst that can happen?
In that case, hot tub. False alarm? Still got a soak in the hot tub. :)
Submerged in the neighbour’s wife/daughter/pool boy/donkey (delete as appropriate)?
Kiss my wife, and my ass goodbye. There are no shelters here.
Did you have several ribs removed?
Kiss my wife, and my ass
Careful about the order of actions.
Hope I get obliterated by a direct hit
Honestly. Never got preppers.
What world post nukes will be worth trying to live in? Best result instant vaporization.
It could be pretty fun up in the mountains, or in small towns that didn't get hit with fallout.
Humanity was forged by a hostile world and we've been pushed to the brink of oblivion at least once. We adapt. I probably live too close to a major population center to survive the initial hits or the first months of total collapse so that's a bummer, but I wouldn't just lie down and take it.
My wife's cousin actually got this text while on vacation in Hawaii. Said he just sparked up a joint n hoped for the best. It worked, so maybe I'll do the same.
Smoke them if you have them. Why freak out.
Same here. My city's buildings are not made with missile protection in mind. We don't even have basements for tornado protection since tornados barely ever happen here. And if an earthquake strikes, you're basically doomed to live in a tent for the next decade of your life assuming you survive.
I hate Morocco so much.
I would invite everyone to my bomb shelter.
Thanks Ned!
Old painty-can Ned
Who is Ned?
I live with my mom and my wife 40 mins from the vancouver city centre… Honestly I’d probably go sit with my wife, kiss them ‘n hope for the best.
Also sobbing, that too. Can’t forget that.
Ohai, neighbour. My mom's about 9 realistic hours of travel away (aka 2 small BCFerries trips). Can I borrow your mom too? If you also can see the noodlebox location that used to be a starbucks, that is. I can sob like no one else; ugly-crying and everything.
My mom will absolutely volunteer to be a mom for you too 💛 We can even have a competition about who can sob the most!
My phone is usually dead, misplaced, or the volume is at 0%. So I would probably crack a beer and stand on the porch wondering why the neighbors are freaking out.
If you have a good emergency infrastructure in your country, the volume being at 0% should not be an issue.
You will likely still hear the cell broadcast. Alerts of this level make every phone give off a piercing sound and even if your phone is dead, you will hear it from your neighbours' because it's loud.
If your phone and early warning systems support cell broadcasting you will still get notified. Cell broadcast alarms are always at full volume, regardless of your settings.
I'll dodge.
Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.
"If you can dodge an ICBM, you can dodge a ball."
Catch it and yeet it back.
You have to get the parry timing just right for that move.
"Serpentines... Serpentines... Serpentines..." 🏃
Just pull off one of these
Put on Tom Lehrer's We Will All Go Together When We Go
Wank
I would not believe that message, because real warnings would not be that specific around here, and they also would never add that funny phrase " this is not a drill"
(Actual drills outside of the military are announced at least several days in advance, if they expect people to cooperate)
they also would never add that funny phrase " this is not a drill"
Meh, I'm in Scotland and the nearest even vaguely major city is 30 miles away, they could be setting off tsar bombas and I'd be fine from the several km of solid rock from various winding hills between me and the blast, probably wouldn't even feel much of a pressure wave. Probably just start filling every container I can find with clean water.
Same but in France.
I live in an old house in a mountainous, sparsely populated area totally devoid of strategic ressources (Auvergne).
I'd probably go to my basement which is dug in the granite substrate and lined with stone walls at least half a meter thick.
The other option would be to go to the bottom of the neighbouring valley (at least 200m deep) and would be shielded by the surrounding terrain.
If they airbursted one of those on Edinburgh, people in Glasgow would get third degree burns.
It's not gonna happen, but your comment got me thinking so I checked. AN602 is an egregious fucker.
So a quick check on this, For a 50 megaton airburst on that city 30 miles away (bit closer by the crow flies) I am within the third degree burn radius and the light blast damage radius, However some basic trig and an altitude map say I have no direct line of sight to the airburst assuming its detonated at an altitude of 1km, so I'm free and clear as far as third degree burns are concerned due to that being a product of the flash. As for light blast damage its likely somewhat lessened by the lack of line of sight and very bumpy intervening terrain, though my village is right along a major river and gives us a comparatively straight (by the standards of river valleys) run right to that city so window breaking is probably going to be pretty hit or miss depending on building orientation and local obstructions.
There's also about 250m of elevation between Glasgow and Edinburgh which is fairly significant considering they're 50km apart, a rough eyeball on an elevation map suggests that they each get at least partial obscurity from a nuke dropped on the other.
Chug some NyQuil, take some sleeping pills and some Benadryl and deal with it later.
Visit from the hatman guaranteed
Assuming it's nuclear, sit around and mourn the fact I don't have a basement. Hope that either A: missle defence works, or B: I'm in the evaporation zone. Radiation sickness sounds awful.
Even if the explosion and fallout completely missed my area, I think EMP disruption would be a huge issue and lots of people would be panicking, stealing, murdering trying to survive.
I live near a strategic asset. I bend over and kiss my ass good bye because the good roads out of town just got super clogged.
Maybe get the good bottle out and hope the ABM stuff actually works this decade.
I've got one hell of a cold right now. I'd welcome the sweet relief.
I'm all prepared to host a NYE party so would probably be like the This is the End frat pack movie.
There's nothing to do.
I go outside with arms open wide, saying "it's about time".
Ha we don't have text alerts in my country! I would die happy and ignorant in my pretty toilet
Technically it's not a text message here either. The government literally overrides your phone to play the alert. Unless your phone is turned off it will play the message.theyve tested it a couple of times now. It's pretty unsettling.
Ah just dump all my cat's treats in her bowl and probably go lie down.
Oh! Oh! I have an answer for this. I remember around the time that The Day After aired, one of the local news stations ran a story simulating what would happen to my city were it hit by an ICBM. We lived on the far side of a hill, far enough away from downtown for it to be potentially survivable. I decided that if we got the warning, I'd grab my bike and light out for ground zero. Fuck surviving, I don't wanna take the chance of being alive but horribly injured, and that aftermath shit just wasn't worth it.
Oh, so if you ever wonder why Gen X/Xennials are so fucked up, there ya go.
Clearly, war has come. My town won't be the one getting hit though.
Load a few jerry cans in the car, take out cash at the ATM, fill up as much fuel, clean water and firewood as possible, then stop by the local hospital and ask if they need extra hands. Meanwhile give my sis a call.
ATMs are offline due to EMP blast, which also killed your cell phone, cell towers, and battery to your car which is stuck in gridlocked traffic. Provided you made it far enough to actually get gas, others who didn’t have your foresight begin to eye your resources.
They’re also MAGA supporters.
If the endtimes come MAGA supporters will be relegated to foorsoldiers in my dictatorial regime
Go to basement. Got enough emergency supplies to last a while.
Hopefully it's a nice day so I could go outside and lay down in the grass or climb a tree to chill and completely relax.
Make sure my phone was actually on silent, put ear plugs in and go back to sleep. I'm too fucking tired to try and survive anything more.
Go stand in the street and flip off the CIA satellite overhead. I'm ready.
Drugs. So the usual.
Ooh good idea! I guess I'd have some of the wine and vodka that's been sitting untouched in our cupboard for 7 years.
I live in a shithole 100km from a NATO capital. I'm not expecting a direct or near hit, so the fallout is my main concern. I should have at least 20-30 minutes to get comfy.
I've got potable water in jugs in the basement already. I'll just grab a couple of mattresses, sleeping bags, camping stove, food, solar/crank radio and head down there. Also some duct tape to seal up the ventilation.
Don't use the stove if you're going to seal up any ventilation.
I'm about 45 minutes from the Sierra Nevada mountains so I'm headed there to a place I know.
Sweden, costal village north of Stockholm.
If a missile is on it's way, I'd send a text to my near and dear with a quick "missile incomming, love you, if I don't make it, you can have X".
Then go to bed in my walk in closet.
I live alone in my flat, top floor, no proper shelter in my general area.
Are you sure there is no shelter available? It seems there will be at least one that is less than 30 minutes away by car: https://www.msb.se/en/advice-for-individuals/civil-defence-shelters-evacuation-and-warning-systems/good-to-know-about-civil-defence-shelters/ https://msbgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/nearby/index.html?appid=8bfc89e7c6064bc181c6a1a6bbac2fa3&sliderDistance=1
There is "space for around seven million people" and Sweden's population is about 10.6 million, and the availability of shelters seems to match the population distribution pretty closely. You could at least let your neighbors know that they can have your space in a shelter (since there might be about 3.6 million people who won't fit in shelters), or show up anyway in order to help carry away any materials that were being stored in a shelter in peacetime, or to help get food or water into a shelter.
The missile is incomming, remember?
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Nothing new here, actually
I am "lucky" enough to live within a few miles of a place I'm pretty sure would be a ground zero in an all out nuclear attack. I live in a university town. And the university I attend has a nuclear engineering program along with an accompanying research reactor. In any all-out nuclear exchange, anything related to nuclear technology is at the top of the target list. A facility that trains new nuclear engineers is definitely on the target list. We've actually talked about this. If we get this message, our plan is to round up the cats, throw then in the car, grab every mind altering substance we can get our hands on, and go get wasted outside the front gate of the reactor building. We won't try to break into the building or anything; the alert could always be in error and we don't need a felony for trying to break into a nuclear facility on our records. But when hydrogen bombs are involved, the front gate of the reactor building is close enough to ground zero to do the job.
Sorry, but there are indeed fates worse than death. For one, we would be unlikely to survive the initial bombing anyway. But most people have this idea that you'll get vaporized by a bomb. That's not how these things actually work. If you're killed in the first hour by the bomb, odds are it will be from being slowly cooked alive in the burning collapsed remnants of your own home. And sure, we could drive out into the country, but that would only ensure that we would die slowly from fallout induced radiation sickness, slow starvation after the complete collapse of all supply chains, or worse.
Trust me. If that alert comes, the ones close enough to ground zero to be atomized will be the lucky ones. This is something that you do not want to survive. I would encourage anyone that if they ever get that alert, to try to travel as close to whatever you think is your most likely ground zero as possible. You'll be doing yourself and your loved ones a favor. Unless you're already an off-grid survivalist type living in a self-sufficient compound way outside of any blast or fallout zone, all you're doing by escaping the blasts is stretching out your own misery. Do you and yours a favor by making it quick and painless.
On another note, Happy New Year!
You sound a lot like Dr. Falken from Wargames.
I've planned ahead. We're just three miles from a primary target. A millisecond of brilliant light and we're vaporized. Much more fortunate than millions who wander sightless through the smoldering aftermath.
I mean, it's not an irrational stance. Better to thoughtfully and rationally consider it and plan accordingly.
Really, it's another manifestation of that whole, "which would your rather meet alone in the woods, a lone man or a lone bear." A lot of guys simply couldn't understand why most women would take the bear. But the worst the bear is going to do is eat you. And there are many fates worse than death.
Why do the cats get put in the car? Are you bringing them with you and driving to the gates of the reactor to get high, or?
I mean, I'm not going to leave the cats to die in a collapsing burning house either. If I think being vaporized is the best possible fate for myself, why would I deny that mercy to my cats? And yes, in case it's not clear, we're driving to the reactor gates, with the cats in the car. They're joining us for the blast. They're going with us.
The plan is: grab cats and mind altering substances -> load up car -> drive to reactor ->park in front of gates -> get out of our minds, pet the cats tell bombs fall.
I guess I'd seek shelter 🤷♂️
Meh. I can still doom scroll in that time. Best use of my time I tell you.
I will do the following:
Duck and cover
Nothing I can do. As far as I know there is no bomb safety infrastructure near my house plus I'm afraid of getting trapped underground so I wouldn't want to risk sitting in one.
I'd crack a beer, sit out on my deck and call my family and close friends to say my goodbyes.
I assume pizza delivery times will be through the roof, so I'd try to get mine in ASAP.
If I’m in a country that isn’t at war, and has a strong military:
Ignore it and go about what I was doing. Later on, probably read about some idiot who sent the warning by accident.
Possibly, die in a fiery explosion.
"thank God, it can finally be over" would be my first thought, followed by hugging and petting my dogs until it happens.
I'm going to the drug store to buy them out of iodine. If I survive, probably going to need it.
And stay a smoothskin? You're passing on a once-in-a-lifetime chance of becoming a ghoul.
buy
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Bro, just grab the stuff before others take it. There aint laws when missiles by flying.
"buy"
Pretty sure they’re not at the local store anyway. I bought some last year online
Get with my kids and hang out... wherever. No basement, so either in a bathroom or get in a car and park it around behind my house and hope it's enough to protect us from the blast. If it doesn't, at least I'll be together with my kids when it happens.
Double it and give it to the next person
