God I hope they don't flood Lemmy

Yeah, I have seen a few “Roman salute… throwing his heart… autistic… etc” people in the threads about Edolf Muskler’s salute.

Glad I am not the only one to have noticed.

The moderation practices on that subreddit have created an environment where dissenting opinions are swiftly and permanently banned. This approach has fostered an echo chamber where only one perspective is allowed to thrive, reinforcing a cycle of confirmation bias and groupthink. As a result, most conservative posts lack depth and often resemble oversimplified memes rather than meaningful discourse.

Even when an opposing viewpoint manages to slip through, it’s often dismissed as artificial or the work of bots. This mindset reveals how deeply entrenched their worldview has become—so much so that they struggle to believe that differing opinions could be genuine. It’s a surreal and unfortunate dynamic that stifles any chance of productive discussion.

Its both because they pander to the popular, which is why anything thays actually useful, funny, or satirical gets banned on that site.

That’s the problem with reddit

Mods have complete control of how left or right a given community is so you will always see the one you don’t like if you look for it

Like someone said below, it's the mods that are the problem.

thats that controversy feeding algorithim

It could be that people are just getting more polarized or at least more vocal about all political beliefs? Maybe? I'm not really sure, tbh.

depends on which sub you go to.

People are so fucking stupid. Liberals complain that Reddit is shit now because of the conservatives. Conservatives complain that it's shit because of the liberals. Well which is it?

Slightly rephrased.

I will play devil's advocate. Media outlets are scared of being sued for defamation or scrutinised for what may turn out to be misleading news. That's why there are always referring to "sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity" or adopt a mild language to refer to something. But if I am a news publisher, I would describe Musk's gesture as "appears to be Nazi salute" or to that effect. It is still calling it out as it is, but I would still have plausible deniability.

The biggest issue is that the media is focusing on just this one incident in specific. They're acting as if whether or not musk is a nazi hinges exclusively on if it was meant as a seig heil or not.

Ultimately his nazi salute is just the latest in a very very long line of racist and intolerant shit he's said, done, and perpetuated. Regardless or whether he seig heiled or not, he's still a nazi.

context? did i miss reddit drama?

Crazy

I support any efforts to point out who the real snowflakes are. "Waahh I can't be a racist Nazi in public sobs it's just not fair!!1!"

Why is that obvious?

That subreddit is an absolute dumpster fire of stupidity.

It's the definitian of the Hobbesean "right", that human nature is monstrous, beastly and war-like, and that we need to rely on a "better few" to monopolize violence to keep everyone in order. They don't believe that people are capable of self-governance because they don't do it themselves. The Rousseau "left" believe that we're egalitarian by nature, and that we're innately good in small populations but have naturally strayed from our egalitarian origins because of civilization. Anarchists understand that both of these are incorrect.

Good one

John Stuart Mill has this to say:

“I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party.... It may be said that if stupidity has a tendency to Conservatism, sciolism, or half-knowledge, has a tendency to Liberalism.

I have grown appreciation to respect some conservative ideas. As I grow older, I see why some look for stability. There is plenty of good debate when it comes fiscal responsibility and gradual reformism, but this doesn't mean I would reject lgbt rights or support gutting welfare. But yes, generally stupid people seem to gravitate in the direction of conservatism or right.

PS. As a left leaning person, I also agree with Mill's point about liberals but that is a different topic for another time.

Edit: autoco-wreck

Well, it is... that's why I fit right in.

The apps avoid the complexity of signing up really.
Get official lemmy app. Makes account on world. Start using app.

Downvote and block, repeat as long as it takes. Eventually, the amount of shit takes will be limited, especially if you minimise the use of /all/.

In what way

Not the lefitsts fault that Nazis suck.

I havent used bluesky so i cant say for sure, but i would be surprised if people on bluesky werent closer to center than lemmy

That's not really true. Going to specific places for specific things is very different to putting one's head in the sand. If you make such assumptions about your opposing tribes you'll continue to increase social division, and that's the core of this mess.

Edit: Calm the fuck down. This is not where the war you want will be fought, and if it happens, you won't be depended on to make a difference until the attrition gets really, really dire.

Edit edit: Ooooooooh. I'm in Reddit. A'doi!

As someone said on reddit they don't want a safe space for them.

what they want is to be enabled to shit on everyone else's food and smirk at us while we try to separate their shit from our beans.

It is a power dynamic where they want to force their shit upon us.

they already have their safe space on r/conservative where they go to circle jerk around "the left is bad".

They do get tired from that and there is no new "left is bad" if the entire political spectrum was composed of them.

Far right and conservative hate is a self cannibalizing movement.

Even if they killed all gay, black, hispanic, asian, autistic, disabled and any sort of "the other", then, they would need to find new "others" to start to hate and kill. Their fight is always inward, against the enemy within.

They will proceed to kill white people because either they are not white enough or that they are too white ("ginger" people which should've be considered the "correct type of white" if racism ever made any sense since they are paler than almost any other ethnicity).

So, they need an existing enemy and a platform that enables them to shit on us.

If they ever come to lemmy, the correct path is to ban as soon as they shou their true colors and start to throw shit around.

It only requires a few probing question to know if someone is in good or bad faith.

When the comment goes into 5 or more replies, it is almost always for sure that the conservative answering is in bad faith (only exception is if they clearly show that they are learning something with the discussion and adapting their viewpoints with each new comment)

The Hexbears think the conservatives are already here...

I'm not interested in having a civil conversation with fascists either

Of course. They can’t accept that they’re the weirdos.

Exactly, one look at All would probably be enough to make them faint lmao

"So nice to be out of that frying pan!"

you know how nazis ruin everything?

They need their safe space away from all those bullies 😭

They equate bluesky with leftists because its where most peopme went when twitter got too racist, and because now a lot of subreddits have banned links to twitter altogether.

Generally (reddit) cons don't even want stuff from outside their own sub, so it makes sense why they'd hate any bluesky links

But then they would get defederated and have to face the fact that everybody hates them, and that wouldn't be as fun as doing their hate speech with a big daddy corporation to shield them from the consequences.

Iirc truth social is just a mastadon instance or something.

They are far too stupid and disorganized to create.

Nah fuck that they already have their own space and even whole platforms, Xitter, Facebook/Instagram, and "Truth" Social

I worry that all banning does is push people into the echo chambers that started this whole thing to begin with. We don't want assholes causing problems for everyone, but locking them out only deepens their resolve.

Just look at how many people are defending or downplaying the elon salute. I'm shocked, after only seeing a few 'conservative' types a month for the entire lemmy life I've had.

Good, then they’ll come here. Only thing this place is missing is users.

Because Bluesky blocks hate speech and Nazis. Sure Conservatives say they're blocking "conservative ideas" but as soon as you ask which ideas specifically they throw a tantrum.

Because they are all libtards in that posters mind