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  • Its not about good or bad the software people learn and use are the ones that bring them gainful employment. You learn what the industry uses to get a job in the same way i didn't learn java because its a fun and exciting language i learned it because people hire for it. Also universities have a lot of sway on what people learn as well but I think thats more just reacting to what the industry does than leading it in any way

    • I think if there were complete transparency in university site licensing agreements, especially the sweetheart kickbacks the universities get for pushing certain proprietary software into students and curriculum to force familiarity over open source, there would be calls for prison sentences.

      pretty sure ESRI's entire business model in the US exists because of their capture of educational institutions.

      • I've heard some things about uni's and proprietary software shenanigans but i don't know enough about it. Wouldn't be surprised if they take bribes to entrench shit software in the world

    • Yes but if it's significantly better businesses would be shooting themselves in the foot to not use it. It'd probably just be banned tbh

      • This isn't really true because businesses constantly shoot themselves in the foot paying eyewatering sums for crap software.

        Workflows are hard to shift without significant losses in profits so unless its a small company won't happen. But then you hit the other problem... No labour pool. Industry standards are a self propagating thing and adobe is the one laughing. Look at oracle its basically their entire business model, same goes for IBM they are still selling mainframe systems.

        Come do some z/OS with me comrade https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zdt/14.2.x?topic=personal-edition its fun and exciting

    • Hmm, yeah I should have imagined it,

  • I used to use PS and InDesign daily for creating flyers, posters, memes, agitprop, etc. for fun, for organizing, and just to help out local charitable or community orgs. I decided to switch to FOSS stuff a few years ago when I went all-in on Linux as my primary OS.

    I can use some combination of Krita, Scribus, and Gimp for about 95% of my image editing, design, and publishing workflow. Every so often I do have to switch back to Photoshop or InDesign to do one or two specific things before going back to Scribus or Krita for the entire rest of the project. A few of these things are ones I could probably figure out how to do in a FOSS editor, but mostly they're things that are either too convoluted or just don't work (or at least, don't work the way I want them to.)

  • I use GIMP a lot and learning the interface was hell, but other than that it's perfectly good software. Haven't dabbled much with Krita, but I've heard from colleagues it's pretty great.

    Main issue is what the other user pointed out, if you work at a company you need to either use locked in software or somehow convince the whole company to use the foss version. Nowadays lots of people are using Canva despite it also being shit and increasingly enshittified.

  • This also affects enterprises that also create proprietary graphical arts tools. If the office uses adobe, then you will use adobe because when your co-worker sends you a .psd file then you're going to be a team player or get fired. You can apply this thinking to most computer programs where a proprietary instance of it has become a hegemon. It's sometimes called the Network Effect where the use of the program spreads not because of technical merit or respect but because there is no other viable option.

    GNU Imp, Krita, Kdenlive, etc are not faulty programs, as mentioned, they can do 90% of tasks that most people need technically speaking (It's the 10% that Adobe has that causes users pain and frustration). It's just that they don't get enough attention and support because if you want to survive in capitalism you can't argue with your boss.

    But also if China does do a Deepseek on Adobe then humanity will be in a far better place.

  • I've never like gimp, I would use it but have always found its differences to photoshop to be an unintuitive pain in the ass.

    I've been using Photopea.com lately though, which obviously isn't open but it fills most of my quick free editing needs.

  • I use GIMP mostly these days. I don't do anything too involved that often, but it has most of the features from the pre-CS days (I started using PS around version 3.x). If you are relying on new features constantly, then probably will not feel too great for a while. But all the essentials are fine (color curves, layers, selection tools, etc). I hear a lot of good things about Krita for vector stuff, but I haven't used it much.

  • i use photoshop and have had a bad time trying to start using clip studio/gimp/etc, but tbh i'm pretty sure that's because i've been using PS forever and there's tutorials for everything. and its always cracked!

    • I'm still salty Clip Studio moved to a paid updates after promising to be a one-time purchase software. I understand why they did the change and some of those new features are fantastic, but I haven't upgraded out of spite.

      That being said, it's pretty good, especially if you're buying 3.0 right from the get-go. Photoshop does have better filters, but Clip Studio's free community content more than makes up for it. Being able to make your own brushes or download other people's favorites has been a godsend.

  • I've had to use Adobe software a few times. I'm not very techy, I always feel like I'm wrestling the program in order to just get it to PRINT OUT DA PDF PLEASEUH but with Adobe I felt like I was doing that AND wrestling its' pimp

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