I was attempting to lathe that back during brexit and I'm still trying to lathe it today. Just want the eu to let Ireland dom England for once, it's all I need.
NI has a path through rejoining the rest of the nation, but Spain is likely to throw a wrench in the works of a newly independent Scotland joining out of anti-Catalan sentiment.
It would be cool to see the UK just become England as the sole K though.
Is there a lot of pro-Catalan sentiment in Scotland that I was unaware of? Or is it them just opposing states breaking away from larger states to avoid giving Catalan the same opportunity?
To be fair, Ingerlanders didn't vote to just leave the EU. They just voted to leave all the obligations and limitations, not to leave all the benefits and rights.
The UK has wanted rid of NI for 60 years at least. The troubles kicked off significantly due to the UK govt's ham fisted attempts to divest themselves of it.
Inside me there are two wolves. One thinks the EU is a horrible imperialist tool for enforcing neoliberal orthodoxy. The other one thinks it is hilarious to see British gammons throw tantrums about no longer enjoying the practical benefits of EU membership after having left the EU.
It's like when chuds complain about US funding for NATO. Like, by all means, dismantle a mechanism for laundering US power projection. Let's stop funding Radio Free Asia next, those bastards haven't been revenue neutral since they were founded.
The thing is in Britain especially you still get all the neoliberal orthodoxy except now you've also got rid of the EUs human rights convention and seeing how their dumbass country's basic laws are founded on ass-pulls like time immemorial, a tapestry and 800 year old contracts they've absolutely fucked themselves out of all the good parts of the EU while retaining all the bad parts of the EU
Exiting the EU to not do neoliberalism is one thing, exiting the EU to do even more neoliberalism is just kneecapping yourself
To be fair around half of EU wide transportation programs are basically everyone sitting on finished infrastructure that ends at the german border as this country has become absolutely incapable of building anything but autobahn
"Shit, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that voting for the guy who ran on a platform of publicly eating live puppies was, in fact, going to publicly eat live puppies."
The EU is a neoliberal abomination. Leaving the EU to get blue passports and do more racism is not going to improve things though. European countries are too small to be on their own against the powers of capital as the rapid dismantling of living standards for common people in Terf Island post-Brexit shows. It seems like the viable alternative to the EU is some kind of pro-worker European community that doesn't exist yet.
Leaving the EU to get blue passports and do more racism is not going to improve things though. European countries are too small to be on their own against the powers of capital as the rapid dismantling of living standards for common people in Terf Island post-Brexit shows.
That's not the only thing leaving the EU allows for, anything that happens in the UK now is entirely the fault of UK politicians, there's not the EU scapegoat (which is a real scapegoat) anymore which means brits are in a better position to actually change things politically and exercise their sovereignty than any EU country, and that dismantling of standards that is happening in the UK is happening elsewhere in the EU too, except here in EU countries politics can't actually be about changing that since it explicitly means going against european institutions.
It seems like the viable alternative to the EU is some kind of pro-worker European community that doesn't exist yet.
Yeah, which is not the EU. I'm just being facetious when I say I hope everybody leaves I know it's more complicated than leaving and staying, but what the comments here told me is that some, hopefully not european, leftists really think the european working class is better off with the EU than they would be if they fought it. SAD!!!
The EU is crap but it not existing isn't the better alternative tbh. I think way more EU countries would fall to fascism if the EU stopped existing, I'd take neoliberal bureaucrats over my local fascists any time.
On the flip side, consider how far the rest of the world advanced after Europe imploded itself in the 20th century. Perhaps we'd all be better off if the EU imploded again and the US followed thereafter.
Living on terf island I couldn't agree more. Fuck the EU, soft brexit would've been fine. Like, not great but still not the living hell that has been occurring since hard brexit.
Either way destruction of the EU is a prerequisite to socialism in europe. It literally exists to be neoliberal and prevent it.
On one hand, Corbyn was right to oppose EU as it is an undemocratic neoliberal mess. On the other hand, Jezza's purged and Brexit just means more undemocratic neoliberal mess anyways.