US trying to overthrow Netanyahu, senior Israeli official says
US trying to overthrow Netanyahu, senior Israeli official says
A diplomatic feud has grown between Netanyahu and Biden over Netanyahu's Gaza policies.
I doubt the US is trying to overthrow Netanyahu, but if they were, I'm glad of it.
He definitely shouldn't be in charge of anything...he's dehumanizing humans...like a country and leader did in the 1930's.
Western leaders didn't mind that guy in the 1930s for a good while until his dehumanizing got too carried away. After financing him, supporting him and allowing him to gain power for a good while, it then began to get too difficult to get him out of power .... then things got carried away .... and you know the rest.
Don't forget IBM building the systems to efficiently catalog and murder the jews in the holocaust, and pretty much every non-jewish-owned corporation being perfectly happy empowering fascism for profit — no different to today, with most major corporations still "donating" to R's and every other fascist or dictator globally.
Turns out capitalism doesn't give two shits about freedom or democracy and only worships the almighty dollar...
Seems like no one cared so much about the dehumanizing (a lot of which was hidden and not fully discovered until later) and instead it was more about stopping his massive land grab.
And some idiotic folks in this country think trump isn't marching straight into that same history...replace jew with LGBT and there you go.
Yeah
Israel had every right to defend themselves against the Hamas but what he and his far right ministers are doing and saying is making it really hard to support them and believe that it's really only an attempt to eradicate Hamas and not also about expanding Israel as they do in the Westbank for years.
They are really making it almost impossible to support the legitimate cause of rescuing hostages and security their population from Hamas and are actively fuelling antisemitism through the anti-zionism they provoke
Dude .. straight numbers...you really think that many in Gaza were actual Hamas vs Palestinians trying to live their lives? Hamas sucks but this is like trying to kill all Florida because of a few Florida men, or all of DC because of politicians...this is genocide and there is no way to defend it.
Edit: Israel literally made up lies about rape and got that bullshit published in the New York Times ruining them as actual journalism and then bombed refuge camps...not an easy argument to defend.
Just a distraction.
I mean the easiest way of overthrowing Netanyahu would be for the US to stop giving Israel money while he's in power. He'd be gone by lunchtime.
If the US sanctioned Israel, the very next day the Gaza massacre woull stop and Bibi would out, and within a week probably in jail, not only because Israel's oldest ally turning against them like that would be the stronguest possible message that they fucked-up, but also but because losing support from the US would be seen as an existential threat for Israel.
The talkie-talkie from the US Administration that's as far as the US goes at the moment (accompanied by the very oppsite of the words in actions such as military and diplomatic support) is rightly seen as hot air produced merelly for Biden's political convenience.
He'd be gone by lunchtime.
Why?
There's this narrative that Israel is completely dependent on US aid and would be powerless without it, but I don't think that's obviously true. What military is going to meaningfully threaten them? Jordan has no interest in another giant wave of Palestinian migrants (given that the last one led to a coup attempt), nor does it have a significant military. Lebanon hardly has a genuine government. Syria is a mess. Egypt does have some legitimate power, but also has no interest in a massive war right next to them.
The only regional power capable of meaningfully threatening Israel is Iran, and Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Sunni coalition do not want massive expansion of Iranian influence.
Not to mention, Israel has already defeated all of its neighbors, simultaneously, twice. I'm fairly confident that the only thing that would actually happen if the US stopped sending aid is a bit of a dent in the Israeli economy.
Israel would be gone by lunch time.
No, as a thought experiment, I think if regime change meant continued US support they'd be safe from neighbouring countries while negotiating that change.
Given the "enemy" they are bombarding lacks the capacity to retaliate at scale no real harm would come to them if they had to just stop genociding and occupying.
They would have to concentrate their resources on defence in the normal sense of the word.
Just... stop supporting Israel? That's it. Please. If the genocide stops and Netanyahu goes down for it, we are on a less dark timeline.
Oh, wow, Israeli Fascists spreading ever more unbelievable fables of them being the true victims.
I did NAZI that coming.
I haven't read down the thread yet, just saw your comment. Maybe others have said something similar-
Just out of curiosity, why do you say it is a fable? It seems obvious that Netanyahu has fallen out of favor with the Biden administration and that Biden's administration is courting the opposition. See the recent visit by the Israeli opposition leader to the US.
"Overthrow" is probably too strong, but I guarantee the US State Department and intelligence agencies are working behind the scenes to weaken Netanyahu and strengthen the opposition. There will likely be an attempt to remove Netanyahu before the US elections in November. As it is, the genocide is a noose around Biden too. If he can stop the current situation, it will help him tremendously in November.
There is zero evidence for it, only conjecture, just like your post reads as an "imagine that" or "I wish that" in all but actually using those specific words.
Sure, we can all wonder about the possibilities, and even presume that it might (based on nothing but some personal sympathy for a specific american political force) but we're not government members and are not telling it to the Press.
Might is the domain of fantasy, a universe away from is.
The "enemy from outside" is quite the Propaganda staple of Fascists, including the Nazis, and variants of it have repeatedly been used by this Israeli administration to justify their current, Nazi-like mass murder along etnic lines, so an Israeli government member "casualy" sharing with journalists such evidence-free wonderings - stated as fact, no less - seems far too convenient and within that pattern to be a mere accident.
Surprised they didn't accuse random US politicians of secretly being hamas
not their usual strategy
Israel is not a protectorate of the US but an independent and democratic country whose citizens are the ones who choose the government
Okay cool, can we stop supplying weapons and Intel now?
They're doing a terrible fucking job.
Take a step back, breathe, and imagine he's a Communist. You got this.
Theater
senior Israeli official says
Hmm
Bibi taking the hasbara into his own hands
Well they aren't exactly being an allied nation right now. So other than giving them to the wolves, if the Israeli people want the US as an Allie, they need to decide between peace and genocide.
Sorry but the US isn't exactly the pacifist and/or peacekeeping nation, you think they are. Not to mention that they are trying to spy on their own allies, tap their phones, install backdoors in network equipment, persecute whistle blowers, etc., meddle with other countries internal affairs, trying to stifle the competition of other countries economics and what not. And now supporting full blown genocide and sending arms to Israel. And believe me a lot of people in the US were very happy when the UK left the EU.
So they are just a tad better than Russia in my books and I wonder what the world would be like without countries like the US, Russia, China.
On one hand the USA does this all the time (cough Imran Khan cough)
On the other hand, they like having Israel, just none of the accusations of genocide that might ruin poor Biden's election campaign
Knowing what happened to USS Liberty, I seriously doubt they're trying to overthrow Netanyahu. Probably trying to bribe him or other members to cool off so the news goes away for a bit.
On one hand the USA does this all the time (cough Imran Khan cough)
Mainly to leftist governments though, and Bibi's a right-wing extremist. He's the sort of person the US usually installs, which is why there's no way in hell they'd try to overthrow him
This would be less believable if we didn't do it so goddamn often.
I actually wish this was true.
The next major candidate isn't any better
Ok how does that stop far-right Zionists? Will there be a crackdown on fascists? No? They'll come back into power soon because Israel is a racist colonial ethnostate.
If you're under the impression that Israelis universally support Netanyahu, I have a feeling you've never actually talked to any.
All it'd take is an election in Israel.
Been hearing this shit for 5 months.
5 months ago I never thought Biden would be so much of a dog to let Netanyahu order Biden around for half a year to support committing blatant Genocide, and covering for him with UN vetoes.
They have Biden on a leash.
Uhh, that assumes Biden is against the genocide.
I bet he’d have a pretty passionate stance against it if you asked him about China and Uyghurs.
Yeah, the reverse is more likely. Bibi has Biden on such a leash that he'll give them anything they want.
I wish.
"The West" should just go with the ol shitty parent threat: "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it!" Lol
Then they're doing a shit job of it compared to the usual.
Maybe they're just soft-couping him, yk?
I feel like this is just fascist propaganda to further entrench Netanyahu's position. The idea of Brandon taking a move like this against Israel seems iffy.
Fascists make up whatever bullshit they want.
What a surprise did the puppet lose its benefits already? Or is it not doing what they want?
I feel like this is just fascist propaganda to further entrench Netanyahu's position. The idea of Brandon taking a move like this against Israel seems iffy.
Honestly, more people should be.
Wait, what. I thought Biden was riding that "kill all Palestinians" train all the way to his grave. Or is the feud about Netanyahu not being aggressive and murderous enough to wrap this up before October?
Maybe Netanyahu is just doing a shit job in it... Israel's other political figures like Daniel Hagari and Eylon Levy seems to be mostly fine in approval ratings...
The US saying "No no, too much genocide"?? What a fucking crock of shit.
Not my problem
Why don’t they just get Boeing to deal with it?
I wish. Fuck Israel.
in reaction to the annual Threat Assessment report which warned that Netanyahu’s coalition could be replaced by a more moderate one.
Shit happens, and in this case far far too late if this is accurate. Any reaction by the US which involves you still being involved in Israeli politics instead of in custody in the Netherlands awaiting trial, you should be thanking all the neoliberal gods for, and not complaining about. There's about 95% of the world that is horrified and furious about all of this for very different reasons than that you might not get to be in charge anymore.
The only thing Biden is overthrowing is himself with his unwavering support for Genocide.
What you mean they can't just fund a random terrorist organization to do it for them so they have another group to go after and demonize in 10 to 20 years like they've done to other countries countless times in the past? Wild
Hmmm, where are all those users accusing Biden of genocide? Suddenly quiet over here
Right here. He's the head of the administration giving them access to the weapons to carry the genocide out. At best he is abetting a genocide. At worst a willing participant.
Sometimes i doubt myself when i block someone. Sometimes a commenter's history is so illustrative of who they are and what they're worth generally that i can't hit it fast enough
Bidencide or Genobide?