Masochism

I love how all the comments insist on discussing the difficulty, despite OP literally pointing it out as bait.

That's good bait.

I never understood the obsession with stupid difficult games at all. It's like, let me bang my head on a coffee table for 3 hours trying to make 5 minutes of progress. No thanks

Edit: Wow, this blew up, quite a controversial take, and not a hint of irony from all the people commenting about how I don't get it.

Edit 2: For what it's worth, I have played Dark Souls 1 all the way through, some of Dark Souls 2, got to the end of Bloodborne, played about 3 hours of Elden Ring, and a bit of Lies of P. These games just aren't for me. I played them bcz my friend loves them, and I was trying to make a soulslike bcz that seems to be all the rage right now.

All difficult games should have an easy mode for accessibility.

Signed, a Dark Souls enjoyer.

This is extra funny because Elden Ring's diverse player build options means that it has the most adjustable difficulty curve of any FromSoftware game. Holding up Elden Ring completion specifically as any kind of bar to surpass is laughably naive.

I dislike how people use game completion as a method to gloat

Like bro, don't we all play games to have fun?

As a man who has never played Elden Ring and really knows nothing about it beyond it being the name of a game, the people getting all het up in these comments are very amusing. I think you guys proved her point.

Easy mode ftw. I've only got so much free time. I wanna chill when I'm gaming.

I'm vegan btw

I've never had vitriol spewed at me quite like when I argue in favor of easy mode for soulslike games. I'm at a point where I hate soulslike games, half because I don't want to spend ten hours on a boss that I can't beat, and half because I don't want to associate with soulsborne players

I once made the mistake googling easy mode for Elden ring that someone gifted to me. Once I saw the gatekeeping on Reddit, I decided it's not a game for me and uninstalled. I'm sorry that I suck at video games

All of the Souls games kinda have an easy mode baked in. Ranged weapons/Sorceries generally provide an easier experience. Honestly though, I just find I don't really care if there is an easy mode or not. I enjoyed the challenge and if a difficulty slider was added, it would not have detracted from my experience in the slightest. I played through the games for the challenge and I enjoyed it immensely. If someone else doesn't enjoy the challenge, then that's okay. I'm not going to gatekeep them. We're all SunBro's at our core and I will always drop my Summon Sign for others in need to find

I've never touched any game of this series. If I need to replay a section or fight in a game more than 3 times it annoys me so much, I need to take a break. This often led to me never playing that game again, because only thinking about being stuck at that spot again kills all the fun for me.

In Cyberpunk for example my car got stuck in the middle of nowhere by a glitch and I would have needed to walk for god knows how long to find another vehicle. Needless to say I never played that game again, even though I was not nearly even half way through and liked it up until that point.

Saying that it shouldn't just to feel something (I.e. a smug sense of superiority)

Yes.

Also just generally better accommodation in general. If a paraplegic guy with control over one finger wants to play Elden Ring, there should be settings to accommodate that. That's not even making it easier; they're already facing much more difficulty in the first place. It's just leveling the playing field.

EZ mode in Elden Ring is to play Scadow of the Erdtree for a bit. That hands out fifty level-ups for shitting yourself hiding in the bushes, just to mock you for how you still ain't got gud. Go back and beat up Malenia and Placidusax all you want, you're still going to die to the very first expansion boss like you've never played a Souls game before.

I used to disagree with this concept, but then I discovered how Control implements difficulty. The game is hard, and that cannot be changed, but at any time one can pause the game, turn on assist mode, and become unkillable. And the key to this is after one gets past that really frustrating section, they can turn off the "cheats".

That would work for Elden Ring.

I just started playing Stellar Blade.

It's really nice to go through the checklist of which soulslike attributes games are now inheriting, and which they decide to throw away. SB happens to have a set that I really jive with. No "lose currency on death", clean and clear tutorials, but still has lots of secrets hidden around the world. And, it has an easy mode - which I'm not using, because as much as the bosses challenge and frustrate me, they're very satisfying to learn.

For anyone interested, shameless plug: !soulslike@lemmy.zip

Hmmmmmmm what do you call a fish with no eye? A fsh

I see a lot of bait like this around, I also see a lot of double standards in gaming.

You want to feel alienation? But isn't this what you are already experiencing?

As for the bait: I don't need easy mode, I don't want easy mode; but it really isn't my decision.

I haven't played Eldin Ring, but if it's story driven, I would 100% support an easy mode for those that want the story and not a time sink.

I love that Nine Sols includes the option, although I haven't personally used it.

… room full of men boys …

Kai nearly had to get therapy on stream to finish this game. If those guys could hear you they would be very upset!

I like turtles

Souls games just require patience, you can get better. It's the stupidly complex games I have trouble with. Games like BG3 are like taking freshmen chemistry again. Too much effort trying to figure out whats going on.

Jeeze SOMEONE wants attention!

One thing I've never understood is devs making a game that is 100% intended to be difficult to complete and then some people come along to said game that has essentially been advertised as a hard game and complaining it's too hard and an easy mode should be implemented for them.

Not every game needs an easy mode and I fully support the idea that devs shouldn't have to put in an easy mode because people think a game is too hard. Especially if it's a souls game. They've never been easy and hopefully never will be.

Hard games should be hard. Welcome to Tarkov

Its called cheating. Download some mods or something; the game is the game they made. If you want something different, there are plenty of options.

Edit: A question for those downvoting comments; where are the indie souls-likes with an easy mode? The market for a such a thing doesnt really exist as far as I can tell. On the other hand, if those games do exist and im just not aware of them, then for fucks sake just go play them and be happy. Im not out here saying Stardew Valley needs a permadeath mode, that would be childish.

Why stop there, though? Some of those big weights at the gym are way too hard to lift. They should have an easy mode that lets people lift weights labeled a heavy weight but are actually made of foam. Or in school, if someone can't grasp a difficult concept, there should be an easy mode that just gives them the answer.

Hey, look, I found one of those posts where it OK to be sexist.

Edit: Saying "Hey, look, I found one of those posts where it OK to be sexist," in a room full of virtue signallers just to feel something.

le edit, the second: I guess based on the downvotes in the thread Lemmy.ml is refederated.