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No, it's not, however as a near-minimum wage worker myself, it is also not my job to cover a massive corporation's lack of proper budgeting...

I absolutely will pick the no-tips place given a choice, but I take issue with that wording. Basically every business pays as little as possible, by design.

Certainly not lol, what a ridiculous thing to say

"Oh, but then the price of my McDonald's cheeseburger will skyrocket!!" Fucking good

I don't know why people keep repeating this propaganda. Plenty of countries pay actual wages to their employees, don't have tipping, and the prices are still fucking cheaper than America.

They did away with most of their staff and their prices went up over 100% over the last 5 years or so anyway. It's corporate greed all the way down.

Paying people a living wage would only increase the price by pennies. This is just another "conservative" talking point without any basis in reality.

There's no hill to assault, I don't think anybody except the abusers (and the profiteers) disagree with you.

Hamburgling used to be a decent profession. Now with such cheap burgers all those skilled workers are left out.

I wonder how many damn products we use on a daily basis that have been produced with some level of abuse along the production chain. Probably easier to count the ones without abuse, eh.

Would you like a legit source? I found it in 10 seconds of googling, btw.

What... "I've never seen the least of those until a decade ago". It's such a weird comment, like if someone said they got their first EV and you reply with "I never had a vehicle at all until 25 years ago." See how incredibly odd that is? It's got major "I like turtles" feel, even though it's on topic.

If you said "$.02 (point oh two) and a bad online review" it would've had an extra layer and sounded cooler while rhyming.

but I felt like trash in the process.

the corpo knows, thats why it does it. don't let corpo punk you like that.

Infinite money glitch

That's what tips are. A bribe for your next visit

Its what you have to do these days if you want your uber to show up in a reasonable amount of time.

Yup. Delivery services (like DoorDash or Domino's) and the like tend to do it. They also show your tip to the person. You end up getting service based on your tip instead of the other way around.

In Vegas start with a large pre tip for your waitress. That gets you drunk pretty quickly

Pre-tipping is how rub and tug's work. For real.

So, dear reader, notice how whenever defenders of tipping come along, it’s always the same story.

Oh boohoo my poor minimum wage (which is pegged to the same minimum wage as non-tipped workers in states where most people live).

Ever wonder why it’s always about the minimum wage and never about how much money they make?

Any server with 2 brain cells clears $40 an hour in untaxed cash wages every shift.

They never report it on their taxes, and yet they will cry about their poor wittle wage at every opportunity expecting people that make half their salary to tip them 100% for rudely dropping off a plate once and never coming back, making you wait 20 minutes to close a check.

Notice the pattern. Remember how I was right next time.

Ask them if they’d rather abolish tipping next time. Notice how none of them say “yes”.

Employer is obligated to make up the difference so that perosn gets at least min wage.

So this statement is factually incorrect

Also tipping is for actual table service. If you just hand me some food I'm not tipping you for handing me food.

Your opinion is a result of class warfare propaganda, to get working class people arguing with each other. Direct your anger to the employer.

I’m tired of this excuse. These people took the job knowing what the pay rate was, and are demanding the customer pay their salary directly rather than the employer like virtually any other conventional job does. Customers have had it, they’re being told to give employees raises along with rising food costs, even at businesses that don’t do a damn thing for the customer except maybe hand them a to-go box. 20% for that? F no. Grow a spine and demand real pay, people have had it. IDK how I can travel almost any modern place else in the world, pay for a good meal, and only have to leave the approximation of $1 or so for appreciation of the service, but in America I pay for the food and a separate charge for the employee’s “pay”.

Those same people only getting paid 5 an hour have literally fought and complained against any attempts to change the law and bring a proper wage. Why? Because they make more in tips than they would hourly. Whole system is messed up.

Not tipping is not giving my money away for nothing.

Tipping culture creates unwarranted expectations and removes obligations from employers.

I've stopped tipping decades ago and won't look back.

yeah I basically stopped going to restaurants because is screwed either way. It actually used to be something we would do but the norm became wierd and like so many things nowadays it became just drop out of participation.

In WA everyone is paid at least 16 an hour, over 20 in Seattle and in many high COL areas.

Its unfortunately a catch 22 though because continuing to tip kinda enables it to keep happening if everyone stopped tipping then places would likely have to pay a decent wage in order to get people to work as even if you’re extremely desperate for money its still not really worth it to work for tipped minimum wage with no tips also im not sure if it applies to all places but if your compensation + tips falls below the federal minimim wage the company must pay you the difference if I am not mistaken

I'm paying

straight up taking money

lol, where can I find this magical money?

Yes. If you can't afford to leave a decent tip, then don't get the service.

Yeah, it's definitely the owner's fault. That doesn't change the fact that the underpaid schmuck always tries to blame the customer for not leaving a tip.

I don't know. I don't think people who work as servers can affect if the food is bad, or if kitchen messes up stuff... They just take your order and get your food. I'm not sure why they should also act like they like you, and you are their favorite person in the world when you come into the restaurant... :)

I know you didn't say any of that and with good service, thats maybe not what you meant. Just wanted to say my own opinion about service... I guess I don't expect them to be fake and I don't like it if they are.

Wages should not be dependant on the kindness of strangers.

I'm not mad about paying it. I'm mad that the employer is treating it as an option and not an obligation

If nobody tipped the restaurants would have to pay their service staff or they would have no employees.

In most of the world tipping is optional or tops out at 15% as a reward for exceptional service. They get paid to do their job since the cost of food already has the cost of service in there.

It may actually change the system. Think about it.

Part of the reason it shard to change the system is because of resistance from the waiters who make a lot of money from tips, so yes, not tipping does help change the system.

The food prices went up 20% so my logic is if I continue to tip the same % the waiters should still make more money. Increasing the food prices and also doubling the tip is just double dipping. My work isn’t paying me 20% more every year so I can’t be paying for everyone’s inflation.

I'm punishing them by giving them what was until 10 years ago considered an excellent and standard tip?

Not to mention that servers are, as a general group, extremely opposed to dismantling the tip system as a whole. My complaint wasn't about raised food prices, which the owner would be in control of - it was about raised tipping percentage expectations. I refuse to contribute to the steadily rising expectation of how much a tip should be, and regret my past contributions to that trend.

Don't pretend they have no control. They could band together and refuse to play by the restaurant's rules. Things would change pretty quickly.

I agree, the %s are too high, and there should be a "no tip" option there (even though you should tip here especially full service but not counter service), but also the "30% soso?!" Even I'm not tipping this one.

Yep. Sure is. Hopefully that makes my blonde moment quota for a few days.

Beats just the tip.

Yeah, I figured so. My knowledge on American tipping culture is based on 90s movies.

The reason is that minimum wage has been stagnant for the last 20 years. Servers are still getting paid $5 an hour plus their tips.

I don't remember actually doing tips as a percentage back when I lived in Latvia, it was usually that you took the bills and left any coins, maybe added some on top if there weren't many.

So probably 10% at most but still basically what I made per hour as a warehouse worker

And they're perfect for this kind of thing! What better way to punish rude tip demands? Despite how rude it is, you don't want to throw someone in jail over this. A fine? You risk the fine being so low it's just a cost of business or so high you just ruined some service worker's life. This is exactly where the pillory shines!

Demand a tip like this? To the stockades with you! Spend an afternoon chained up by the sidewalk, while people throw tomatoes at you. No real harm done. Just public embarrassment.

I enjoy quietly asking, "do these tips actually go to you?"

I've gotten a discreet "no" headshake more than a few times. Then you can feel justified taking however long you want to select zero.

I thought y'all didn't have a tipping culture?