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PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them] @hexbear.net

2y ago

What the fuck

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Told you guys they're just going to make up excuses to hate us. Unsuprising that anti-communists would use NATO-like tactics
- They also posted a nato flag with the words "gay right are non-negotiable" unironically, bunch of vaushites
  
  No matter, I shall simply post harder.
  
  Death to NATO
  
  What if it was GAYTO and it was run only by gay countries like Belize and Thailand?
  
  ~~Another blahaj user called it out and the user deleted it and apologized.~~
  Edit: I was thinking of a different post, but this was removed.
- for the record this user has 130 comments in their community and has yet to be banned. letting 196 on a trans instance was a mistake, it would have been better to grab people from /r/traaa or tgcj
  if anyone said anything extremely transphobic like this here theyd be banned instantly, longevity of the account or no
- absolutely 100% what i've witnessed lurking on all the big active threads lately. people deliberately misconstruing what we're saying, outright LYING about shit (like they were downvoted/called some slur that is on our filters), and just bullshit concern trolling about shit liek BriGaDiNG (you mean using the fucking website? lmao) allll that shit annoys me.
  
  Saw one going off about how hexbear is shitting up lemmy.world - the site that famously pre-emptively defederated. And the mentioned claims of downvoting/slur use that are technically impossible. They really will make anything up nothing to stand on.
- No, we must appease them further. We must debase ourselves. We must constrict ourselves. We must put on the armour that Giovanni made for Mewtwo to constrict our powers and serve them. We exist to serve liberals their tepid, stale-ass ideology and memes on a webforum run by ostensible communists.

It's really strange, I thought the alt right playbook vids were being overdramatic with the Nazi bar syndrome. I can't tell if the concern trollers are unintentionally libbing out or just fascists doing their job to prevent any sort of left unity. Same thing maybe.
I don't want to insult anyone by calling them a bot or a bad actor, but I feel more safe posting here than over in their supposedly "less troll" instance.
I think that response is weird. Feels like a nice pat on the back, "you see someone who's a friend and is saying stuff that is good, but they're bad, and you should cut them off. Also that's a good sign that you have so many friends?" And an NPR podcast? Like it feels so on the nose I'm doubting reality
- Not dehumanizing at all. Maybe this will help them feel more comfortable?
- it's supposedly a sign that your minitory group has truly taken hold in society
  Huge "I think the trans people have all the rights they need and are more than equal" vibes. 3 comments ever. Is funding the ko fi donations though, so maybe just a very poorly worded thing to say? I don't think a right wing op would be donating to a pro trans blahaj lemmy instance as cover.
  
  Yeah it might be more simple than that. The horrible thing about propaganda is you don't need to have ill intent or even understand it, you just need to repeat it and the damage is done.
- pretty bizarre, i feel like im speaking a different language sometimes.
  
  we are. we don't agree on the meanings of basic words. like reactionary. and fascist.
- being so treat brained I can only think of other people in terms of treats and treat-standins
- God we're not even trolls. We're not trying to provoke people so we can laugh at them. That's not what dunking is. Dunking is absolutely sincerely telling people what shitheads they are. The idea that most of us are 100% sincere and we absolutely do believe the libs believe what they say and we absolutely do care about their beliefs, take their beliefs seriously, and accord their beliefs exactly as much respect as they deserve is beyond them.
  And ugh, fucking npr. I stopped listening years ago bc it was always "marketplace money". Fuck npr, and the bill and melinda gates foundation.
  
  The weirdest part about the whole "trolling to dunk" thing is they are the ones who come onto communist instances or attack communists on their own instances and make fools of themselves without any prompting.
  Though that's probably why they're so mad. The mere existence of communism is enough to have these libs go mask off and reveal their true colours, and they don't like it.

- the kremlin is wildly trans positive, apparently. who wouldve thought
- Uhh, don't you mean disinformatsiya? It was really funny when the news was going all out to say "fibbing is a well known russian tactic" a few years ago.

mods, if we're going to make concessions to the other instances around our posting, they need to ban this kind of transphobic bullshit. that this user wasn't banned is deeply offensive and rage inducing. how can they call themselves a queer instance and allow this kind of shit to stand? removing the comment is fine and all but it allows the user to continue posting this drivel at us whenever we post.
- fr
  
  This is a tangent, but have you talked with our friends over there about how 196 is extremely hostile to our existence and what is to be done about that? It seems like a sticking point.
- nice profile pic!!!
  
  it's the best emote

Reminds me of my aunt who lied straight to my face in front of my family members that I outright supported the war in Ukraine. Guess analysis, predicting consequences and advocating for ending the war as soon as possible is now wishing desth for Ukrainians 🙄
Yet she was the one talking racist shit about Ukrainians and saying "they should go back", calling them lazy and other shit I'd rathet not repeat. I even mentioned that probably ¼ of all Ukrainians my age (20) are fucking dead, I couldn't believe she was actively supporting them going to their deaths. That fell on deaf ears.
The point is, that no matter what, and who. Liberals will always stab you in the back.
They like racism, discrimination and being pieces of shit in general. The only thing they will cry about is @Civility@hexbear.net being threatened.
She was snarky, making faces and belittling me yet it was I who was the problem for having an aggresive tone in an answer to a snarky and purposefuly provocative statement. My god if I said "kurwa mać", it would be the end of the world! But racism is permitted as long as you are nice about it. 🥰
I should've actually berated my mother for her shitty behavior, I'm mad I actually wasn't more confronting about her racism and not just acceptance, but the defence of this shit.
All in all, fuck liberals as they will fuck you over. Always. It sucks having to restrain myself over this bullshit, and not "making a scene".
- Libs just want an opportunity to smell their own farts, foreign matters are just a Disney+ series in their eyes
  
  You mean IPLA series and a good dose of discount books from Empik.
- COMBAT LIBERALISM
  
  Yeah I ought to read it just about now
- Tone policing is so cruel. It's the real world "you care therefore you lose" internet troll thing.
- :poland-cool: :nato-cool:

lmao I really love how these rancid motherfuckers just make shit up
Like do they realize we can see their posts? Why lie, just own your anti-communism
Honestly I'd rather be called a slur than deal with this sanctimonious horseshit
it doesn't come down to Trans solidarity, but what this community believes on a moral level
yuck, love having white nationalist pedophiles talking about "morality"

No it doesn't. Lmao.
You're just showing how completely unfamiliar with anything to your left you are.
- what is this replying to
  
  "It gives off a massive Conservative pretending to be trans vibe / as a black man."
  Saying this gives off a massive "I have never seen criticism of liberals from anyone other than conservatives" vibe. This is clearly their first ever encounter with real leftists. They default to "these people are conservatives" whenever they see anyone say anything negative about liberals and this only occurs when you've literally never actually spoken to a single real socialist before.
  You're fair asking, I wasn't very clear.

There are people here PRETENDING to be trans!?
This is unacceptable. Please report yourselves forthwith.
- This is gonna bring out a lot of false positives with how common imposter syndrome affects the trans community. It’s me, I’m the fake trans.
  
  Let me take a look at the readings...
  
  By God.... It says your trans level is off the charts!
  
  the fake trans
  no. such. thing.
- Reading comments like this is actually upsetting, how are these people real and posting on blahaj
  
  I have no idea, but the answer is probably liberalism
  
  It makes me sad a bit, because it sort of indicates a lack of connection to local community. I don't think you can navigate irl queer community without running into some queer commie who doesn't care about tone, or some enby chaos gremlin who likes to have fun.
  It may not be your vibe, but if you can't even contextualize what's happening here, it's a bit of a tell.
  
  I've seen one of these clowns get called out for that exact kind opf transphobia and he admitted he had never talked to a trans person IRL. Remember that r/196 has always had a massive chaser problem because it's full of V*ush fans.
- It's me. I pretended to be trains. I don't even need to run on tracks i can go cross country. : (
  
  Trains is hard job.
- If there's one thing that conservatives and trolls enjoy doing, it's creating an account on a niche forum to...
  checks notes
  ...pretend to be trans so you can chill out among other fake trans users and be supportive of them, even though they're faking it?
  
  It's like transvestigation, but in reverse. Cis-picions? Straight-jacketing?

there were hexbears in the closet and they were being secretly transphobic and one of the transphobic jokes looked at me
also nice buttigieg word salad at the end
- also nice buttigieg word salad at the end
  "If you believe in what is right, then it is right to believe in your beliefs. Our struggle is fundamentally about solidarity, trans rights, freedom, and above all, peace. Therefore, we should nuke Beijing, Pyongyang, Caracas, and Havana, nuke them to ashes." - average anti-AES liberal

I read this in Mewtwo's voice from The Pokemon Movie and it is the perfect
kind of shit he would say lmao
Pokemon The Movie 2023: Mewtwo Makes Shit Up
- Mew

how people should act, and how we believe people should be treated at a fundamental level
Hexbears are violating my human dignity by calling me a liberal
- sorry you need some psychopathic conspiracy theory to justify your existence. but people just hate you

- I can absolutely believe this isn't a fed or an op, just a smug asshole with terminal cerebral mccarthyism. It's such a mindless, foolish thing to say.
- I'm not saying it is that to be clear, it just reads like a goddamn fed
  "If you're not a cop, you're doing a cop's job" applies. Wrecking (and similar conduct) is bad no matter who it's from.
- Hey, they could be a fed and still actually trans. The CIA is very progressive about who it hires as Gestapo agents.
  But really I think they are a youngish trans liberal in denial.
- Some of them are. It's difficult to tell if they're using bad arguments in good faith or bad faith, but it is so obviously transparent they have a
  problem when you engage with the user and they resort to insults or act like they're being attacked

was literally coming here to post this, beat me to the punch
square peg through a circle hole ass logic
they're like me but they don't buy into the same lib shit I do, therefore they must be faking it enmasse! world view secure

We are literally just very gay, there is no pretending here

- It's from their admin post. Dunking not suggested tbh.
  
  It's not against the rules, as it stands

Hey Mewtwo, fuck you.

- Nah there's plenty of sincerity around here, we just don't feel a need to engage critically with people who deal with others in ignorance and arrogance.
  
  I think queermunist is a friendly poster and what they are calling out is the sort of stuff like in the posted screenshot

To have a wildly stupid take like this is has to be projection right? Like how do you even come up with this?
- It's their worldview. To them the only "real" political positions are democrat and conservative, and the distinction is almost entirely vibes. They probably don't know what communism or anarchism are and regardless we simply don't fit in their overton window. Democrats are the party that supports trans people (lol), and we're not democrats, so the only other thing we can be is conservatives.

It's been removed by the mods now fyi.
- thankfully. i hope they get the secret sauce that we use to ban transphobes upvoting transphobic content tho
- not banning the people posting this shit only allows them to continue posting this nonsense.
  
  One of our users was spamming "Fuck democracy" and links to atrocities in their meta discussion post to try to get us defederated, and they only got a 24 hour ban.
  If this is their first offense I don't really mind the mods just removing the post, if they keep posting stuff like that and don't get banned it's another story.

if that makes sense
it doesn't.

oh no they’ve discovered that we’re all conservatives pretending to be leftists in order to spread russian disinformation

This whole drama comes down to mostly cis people (outside of blahj) yelling at trans people for the imagined crimes of inauthentically being their gender. New place, same old transphobia.

Conservativism is when you think China isnt as bad as America
Ok.

Which dogshit instance is this from?

It’s vile, it’s disgusting.
If they wanna hitch their shit to these kinds of posts then let it be the anchor that drowns them

Fuck the shitty inauthentic accusations in the first paragraph.
Given the second paragraph, by all means judge us on that basis. We believe on a moral level that people should get to live and not be violently oppressed and assaulted by those in power, directly or indirectly, as is the norm today.

Look, this is obviously shit, but given how much we delight in saying things that irritate the living daylights out of these boat owners, don't be surprised when some of them go probing around for our pain points.
In any case don't let the bastards get you down.
- When they probe for pain points and decide it's a good pain point to be the textbook definition of a transphobe, that is: somebody who denies trans people the right of gender self determination, they're not actually probing, they're just fascist scum who've settled on which marginalized group among us to attack first.
  
  Yeah, but what I mean is there are 1000 ways to be fascist scum, most of which we can brush off and dunk back on, but occasionally they'll land a hit that actually causes some distress. The feelings of distress are valid but I wanted to emphasize that doesn't make the bastards point valid.

making up people to be mad at lol
Just admit that you're an anti-communist and you can't defend why exactly that is

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