الحمد لله

I am sickened and ashamed that my country has lowered itself to inflict KFC upon the innocent muslims of Ontario.

Zionists proving they aren't Islamophobic by being the most Islamophobic people on the planet

Wait isn't it really similar to Kosher? Why are they mad? Isn't pork also not allowed?

they are functionally the same in terms of what animals are allowed for consumption. the slaughter rules are all functionally the same, except that to be kosher the animal must be slaughtered by someone who has been specially trained and knows the laws, while islam only requires that it is performed by any sane muslim who knows the rules. so, for an orthodox person, one seems to preclude the other. sometimes there are dispensations for islam that says anyone of an abrahamic faith counts. there is also some quibbling about inspecting the animal vs. inspecting its removed organs, and wether or not the name of god is said before the slaughter.

what this probably means is that they paid up with some consultants endorsed by a large enough muslim organization to modify the existing process to achieve a halal cert without losing their kosher cert at the plant.

its super obvious if you ever look up the rules that they came from the same cultural origin, and are only different due to time and space. the people who argue that there is a true difference in the two are pedantic dorks, even in the eyes of hashem/allah.
- KFC orders all their chicken from maple lodge farms in Ontario and maple lodge has been doing halal for awhile
- If it is kocher, it is halal. The opposite is not true.
Why are they mad?

Because they’re genocidal racists.
- Every accusation is a confession

Pretty sure Popeyes has been halal for years, surprised KFC took this long.

Wow, those Muslamics sure are cunning. It’s like they’re following some sort of ~~Protocol~~ uh, I mean, plan, to ~~backstab~~ uh, sorry, wage terror against ~~the glorious white ra~~ um I mean Western Civilization^TM

don't tell them, water is halal too

Alternatively make sure they know water is halal. Maybe they'll stop drinking and dehydrate themselves

First they came for the fried chicken

And I did not speak up for I was “anti Zionist”

My friends and I, while abroad, would eat so many meals at "the halal place" (we didn't bother to learn the restaurant's actual name). If we didn't want to get something more signature to the country, we'd order their fried chicken over rice. I don't actually have anything more to contribute nor can I justify this story with relevance.

isntrael

I don't actually have anything more to contribute nor can I justify this story with relevance.

elite podcaster behavior

I thought KFC was also on the BDS list, but I guess this decision was more future-proofing.

How different is Kosher and Halal? Wouldn't this unironically be better for jews too?

How different is Kosher and Halal?

Well, the biggest difference is that kosher slaughter is performed by person trained to kill animals in accordance with Jewish law. Halal slaughter, on the other hand, is performed by a person trained to kill animals in accordance with Muslim law—and they say the name Allah during the process!!!! Otherwise the processes are virtually indistinguishable. Notably, maximization of animal suffering is a key element to both.
- Notably, maximization of animal suffering is a key element to both.
  
  It's not literally that. Back when these methods were written down, they were thought as minimizing suffering because you had to make it quick. A non religious farmer who wouldn't care could torture the animal for dozens of minutes by doing it carelessly while halal / kosher farmers would use proper methods
  
  Now technology evolved so there's debate to be had but the initial intent wasn't cruelty, quite the contrary
- This implication that Halal slaughtering processes purposefully maximize animal suffering has real "those savage bloodthirsty arabs" vibes. The methods may not be particularly kind, but let's not pretend what happens to animals in the west is any better. And it's particularly gross and inaccurate to say that religious food laws purposefully maximize suffering.
- I don't think that's true - the part about them being virtually indistinguishable. Halal can include bolt stunning which uses significant force to render the animal unconscious
  
  To achieve this in livestock, many Islamic authorities approved different stunning techniques such as a physical blow or passage of an electrical current through the head directly or through an electrified water bath or to induce unconsciousness gradually with a hypoxic or anesthetic gas with different farmed mammals and birds to render them unconscious at the end of the procedure, meaning relatively immediately
  
  These are not always effective and still subject a great many animals to significant pain and suffering.
- damn you managed to slip both Islamophobia and antisemitism into the same comment. Wild dude.
  
  Also Kosher and Halal have more rules than just around meat dipshit.
  
  Please tell me what animal slaughter was involved in my jar of Kosher dill pickles you edgelord reddit atheist?
- Notably, maximization of animal suffering is a key element to both.
  
  God says it makes the meat taste better.

I am not going to lie I like bacon bits in my famous bowl slop bucket

Wait till they find out KFC owner PepsiCo's flagship beverage is also Halal. And how many brands Pepsi owns.

I don't remember haram things in KFC?

اللعنة على الغرب والصهاينة!

No pork doesnt mean its automatically halal

Theres also requirements for Halal Slaughter

LOL

Outside of a handful of franchisee markets, KFC Canada hasn't had pork products on the menu since the Double Down was a thing over a decade ago.

Outside of a handful of franchisee markets, KFC Canada hasn't had pork products on the menu since the Double Down was a thing over a decade ago.

I was about to ask, "What pork products?"

Isn't halal and kosher slaughtering kinda fucked because its just "bleed the animal out" with no attempt to stun or otherwise mitigate the pain and experience of having its throat slit

And no I don't need to be told "well eating meat anyway is fucked carnist alphys-smug " as if that would be helpful

I thought I read that the Halal method hits some important nerves that at least lessens the agony of decapitation, but I never checked to verify that. I get your annoyance. A lot of the libs were suddenly crawling out of the woodwork to scream about animal rights during Ramadan and Eid before going back to their usual shit of doing nothing about anything ever.
- I’ve also heard this, and some of the mechanics of it makes sense.
- I am pretty sure they just slit the throat and let them drain out
  
  And apparently hexbear thinks this is fine because of every bit of the treatment of the animal up until that point justifies an equally horrific death because Logic and Reason gj guys
The problem with this way of thinking is if you have a problem with halal slaughter then you have a problem with the entire meat industry. Why single out one specific method of animal suffering and ignore everything else?

Animal suffering is animal suffering you either are ok with it or not there's no middle ground pick and choose what kinds of suffering you're ok with
- You can say that having meat is more important to you than animals not suffering but you would still prefer to minimise that suffering where possible.
- There totally is a middle ground, like "minimizing egregious pain and suffering within practicality". So concern about halal slaughter specifically is reasonable.
Well, eating meat anyway is fucked carnist.
- Pretty sure the person you are responding to is vegan. Nice friendly fire.
but the second part is so crucial. given that meat is always depraved murder, any special concern from a carnist about halal/kosher meat is just islamaphobia/anti-Semitism
- I’m vegan. There are degrees to cruelty and completely unnecessary or justified additions to the suffering experienced is just that, for no reason adding to the suffering.
- because nobody can be fine eating meat but have a problem with an animal being tortured to death okay cool lol
And no I don't need to be told "well eating meat anyway is fucked carnist " as if that would be helpful

Well clearly you do need to be told that if you still don't see why it's correct
- You guys are really wacked out taking the horrific treatment of an animal during its life and using that to justify "well it's just fine to slit their throats and let them bleed out" like it is honestly a fucking absurd stance to me but okay whatever guys
  
  I forget this website thinks peta is good and not the rspca backwards ass shit

KFC is objectively the worst fried chicken franchise.

"Animals must be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter and all blood is drained from the carcass. During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.

There is debate about elements of halal, such as whether stunning is allowed.

Stunning cannot be used to kill an animal, according to the Halal Food Authority (HFA), a non-profit organisation that monitors adherence to halal principles. But it can be used if the animal survives and is then killed by halal methods, the HFA adds. "" -BBC article.

But "UK Food Standards Agency figures from 2011 suggest 84% of cattle, 81% of sheep and 88% of chickens slaughtered for halal meat were stunned before they died. "

So it means that the method of slaughter must be exactly as specified, and whether stunning is allowed or not is up for debate. I see that "healthy" is not specific, so a brain damaged or anesthetized animal may not count. I really feel like a religion shouldn't have such power over the meat industry, at least to the detriment of best practices. I can see a future where Halal practicing people won't/can't eat perfected lab grown meats because they are not technically halal, leading to an increase in animal suffering.

Regardless, it is an interesting conversation for not just animal rights, but other religions. Is it forbidden to eat "blessed" (or cursed) meat if you are from another religion? I can't imagine non-religious people care too much, but plenty of people believe in the power of prayer and vibes or black magic or whatever and if everything made at KFC has a prayer infusion then there might not be any reason to eat at a KFC for some groups.

Is it forbidden to eat "blessed" (or cursed) meat if you are from another religion?

If you are from another religion, then surely to you, their religion is a bunch of cultish nonsense and their blessings and curses have no power or substance so it wouldn't matter?
- Hey currently religious rules include: -Eating scaleless fish or seafood is forbidden, but actually shrimp is ok but crab is not. -Wearing clothing made of two different fibers is a sin. -Don't cook a young goat in its mothers milk.
  
  So I'm not about to assume what might be considered a non-issue to any specific religious community.