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  • Another Brexit Benefit

    Fuck Nigel Frog face Farrage, The Haunted Victorian Pencil Jacob Rees-Mogg, Lord David Pig Fucker Cameron, Maybot, Boris I don't care where I stick my Johnson, and all the rest of the Tories who either actively supported this or were to self interested to not rebel as their leaders doubled down on their Brexit folly again and again.

    • As a mainland European I find Brexit absolutely hilarious. Even Labour is now like: "we didn't get the bad press, so we're fine with Brexit now".

  • All other countries without sideloading mandates

    Every 3rd world country that was already jail breaking and sideloading apps anyway:

  • Don't cry over it. I live in Europe so I'll get it but the thing is that Apple will most likely force people into some kind of bullshit certificate that you've to buy in order to be able to sideload.

    If you read the legal document about side-loading then Apple could be considered in compliance if they just decided to create a “sideloading program” where you can apply and pay for a special certificate with a vetting process and a lot of restrictions (being a company over a certain size etc). Essentially the same as the current Enterprise program but extended to allow 3rd party stores and distribution of App to random users not part of the same organization.

    The legislation won't stop them from doing this and it will effetely only be used by large companies that can go through the vetting process and pay the ridiculous amounts of money that Apple will be asking for.

    • Why would you assume the legislation won't stop it, they have iteratively corrected legislation to mandate it's original intent plenty of times, most recently they've begun looking at cookies because the banner wasn't the intention of the lawmakers.

      • Why would you assume the legislation won’t stop it, they have iteratively corrected legislation to mandate it’s original intent plenty of times

        Because just for starters Apple even tried to argue they shouldn't be subject to the legislation because they didn't have one store but multiple stores. Same with iMessage and whatnot.

        If you read the legal document about side-loading then Apple could be considered in compliance if they just decided to create a “sideloading program” where you can apply and pay for a special certificate with a vetting process and a lot of restrictions (being a company over a certain size etc). Essentially the same as the current Enterprise program but extended to allow 3rd party stores and distribution of App to random users not part of the same organization.

        most recently they’ve begun looking at cookies because the banner wasn’t the intention of the lawmakers.

        Yes but do you know what happens? Due to the way the EU works and our constitutions and agreements work we're talking about at least one year of discussions about the issue and then a 3 year period where countries will have to study what was decided by the European Commission and pass national legislation about it. Then you'll have a transition period like (2 more years) until such legislation goes in effect (deadline). So we're talking about around 5 years to get anything practical. We've seen this with USB-C - even before there was USB-C the EU was in talks to adopt a single port (at the time Micro/Mini USB) and it all took about 10 years to unfold.

        Apple is very good as twisting things and what's currently written on the proposal doesn't force Apple to open up iOS to be a generic platform like macOS or Windows - it simply asks them to allow 3rd party stores and sideloading of applications outside their store. Doesn't say that anyone should be able do it, doesn't set the terms, doesn't say it should be free.

  • think the film Tron made a good while ago was about users having control versus systematic control over the users by the system admins

  • AppStore won't be enabled? Who needs it anyway, I can do ownloading.

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