Quick question, who formed an alliance with Hitler? Stalin or Roosevelt?
The answer to this question is "Mussolini and Tojo". Several European countries signed a "Non Aggression Pact" before the USSR, and then the USSR signed a "Non Aggression Pact" to buy time because they knew an invasion was inevitable.
Aha, but we decided that World War II arbitrarily started when Germany invaded Poland after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and didn't start because of any conflicts before or after that. Checkmate, tankie
Viewing WWI and WW2 as basically one giant war with an interlude would be too difficult for Neoliberal posters but if you mention Crecy or Agincourt they'll probably blather something about the Hundred Years War. Deeply unserious understanders of History.
It really is interesting how these people can skate by saying the USSR and Nazis had an alliance while I have to actually be knowledgeable about history and economics. I suppose I wouldn't think what I do if I weren't knowledgeable. I would probably think what they think.
The USSR also tried to form alliances with the Allies but we're rejected. Nazi Germany was very much their last choice despite being invaded by many of the Allies during the Russian Civil War
yes and I wouldn't really say nazi germany was a "choice" for an ally, or even an "ally," the soviets were, again, stalling, buying time, and pretty much knew germany was eventually going to invade them, since hitler had spent the previous 19 years screeching into microphones about "judeobolshevism" and "the slavic untermensch" and the need for "lebensraum"
(yeah I'm posting wikipedia, I don't feel like spending the rest of my sunday night hunting down the specific books on libgen that are cited on each page, suffice it to say these are events which did occur, and even English Wikipedia doesn't deny them, the problem with a lot of these pacts is that they are named different things by different countries)
What makes people freak out about molotov ribbentrop is the agreement to partition states. the reason for this is because the USSR needed time to deconstruct factories and move them east before the luftwaffe could bomb them. The USSR made a calculated risk that by dividing poland they could move the future war front far west of where it would otherwise be if they refused a non aggression pact and just got invaded right away, and at the same time, move their war industry far east of the war front. Of course by making this calculated risk they gave an easy propaganda victory to all bourgeois nations who experience collective amnesia about every other non aggression pact, as well as their categorical refusal to enter into collective security against fascism with the "bolshevik menace" in the 1930s. It is somewhat similar to how USSR tried to join NATO in the 50s and was refused. The bourgeois nations never wanted collective security or peace with the USSR, even when it was on the table. In particular the USSR only invaded finland because it was the most convenient route to invade the USSR, and the Finnish (a future axis power) wouldn't sell them the land that the nazis eventually used to invade.
19 million plus people were killed. the culture, languages, everything was obliterated to the best ability of the bloodthirsty monsters that forced the people off of the land leaving the survivors were left to pick up the pieces under brutal colonial oppression. and this piece of shit has the audacity to whine about their fascist vietnamese family being caught in the crossfire of the heroic struggle of liberation of their homeland.
PPI has been around since 1989 and views itself as Bill Clinton's "idea mill" aka think tank. Why I call them a fossil fuel think tank is detailed here. They oppose climate action, defend fracking, and receive donations from Exxon Mobil.
it's safe to say that their upvotes are farmed, and their organic support is mostly bourgeois economics and political science majors and interns who hope to work for PPI or a similar think tank one day. It's basically a Neera Tanden farm.
PPI has been around since 1989 and views itself as Bill Clinton's "idea mill" aka think tank. [Why I call them a fossil fuel think tank is detailed here.](https://archive.is/4Voil#selection-595.0-597.270) They oppose climate action, defend fracking, and receive donations from Exxon Mobil.
it's safe to say that their upvotes are farmed, and their organic support is mostly bourgeois economics and political science majors and interns who hope to work for PPI or a similar think tank one day. It's basically a Neera Tanden farm.
The creator of r/neoliberal, [Colin Mortimer](https://twitter.com/Colinmort), is the [Director of the Center for New Liberalism at PPI](https://archive.is/Jq2sO), which seeks to "develop a salient identity around the center-left values that have increasingly come under fire in this age of populism."
I remember a commenter on there years ago saying he had to hold back his temper when a buddy brought up the minimum wage being too low. Back when they were trying to raise it to $15
The top reply being an "I make money and you have to work" comment is really funny. Bro we know, if you didn't have a fake job at daddy's lawfirm you wouldn't be a neoliberal.
So, you need to beat them on the level they're operating on. A funny quip both instantly reveals their "moral superiority" for the self-important moral narcissism it actually is, and also makes you look strong and them look weak in the audience's eyes.
Of course it's about moral superiority. It's not a plain statement of geopolitical reality. We're just virtue signalling.
Also, scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds is a summation of liberal ideology and it's role within capitalism; liberal rulers will turn to fascism when capitalism begins to fail. They don't seem to know that's what it means, and just think it's a pithy personal insult or something.
Also lol at the guy complaining that commies redefined racism to exclude the yts.
I always find it odd liberals always want to prescibe some sort of morality to Marxism. Are they projecting and trying to pretend evrryone is as evil as they are, so communists just have to be lying about their ideology, so we are "virtue signalling"?
It's very easy to dispell this. ..... It's not hidden knowledge that liberalism has been the primary enemy of fascism........ I could respond with pages of reasoning and sources.
Listen, liberalism is the final realization of the liberty and equality of all people. It was created when by pure chance a few brilliant white men who loved slavery were born, got together and thought really hard for a long time, then realized the eternal moral truths of the universe! The WEST you hate so much came up with this idea, so chew on that. That's why Hitler loved AUTHORITARIAN BOLSHEVISM and HATED the West (he talks about it in his book).
Funny enough, I’ll sometimes come across some right-winger whining about gender politics, race-baiting, and cancel culture. Check their profile and they’re power posters on neoliberal and noncredibledefense. But they vote Biden so of course they’re not like those dastardly republicans.
Opened it and the first comment is "any love for a kitty crossiant 😏" type comment.
I love the comments. The comments suggesting to read a book is too funny. Or saying how commies are nazi collaborationists cause they made a pact. 0 self awareness.
Burgerland literally fostered and strengthened relations with people who carried out holocaust. But anyway, Molotov ribbentrop pact 😎😎😎 owned.
I like the little dork that thought up a cool interaction where he got to be condescending to a service worker. Yeah man you totally owned that imaginary barista lol. They always fantasize about doing that kinda stuff because they won't do it in real life.
Whenever I see people denigrate baristas I think of that Brennan Lee Mulligan bit: "Baristas dont deserve a livable wage? Do you think you should be able to buy a cup of coffee? Okay, then you're bad. Baristas do more than whatever it is you do"
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If you see all politics as a power struggle between two sides, then someone who tells you you're not giving the other side enough credit must secretly support that side beneath the surface. Like when a liberal organization like the ACLU defends Nazis' first amendment rights.
My response would be that I don't trust a society that eschews the pluralistic debate step to actually end up with the right norms. If you're on the left and worried about Nazis, you should be just as worried about McCarthyism locking your own views out of the system.
As a wise man once said, the shape of our democracy is the issue that affects every other issue”
IMAGINE sincere Pete posting in 2024. These people have lost the plot.
to you brave soldiers posting at them over there. Love how the comments with actual references are heavily downvoted whilst the smug idiots posting gotchas that in no way engage with factual reality and have no sources are up voted over there. Truly a chamber of geniuses and a forum for intelligent discourse over there (unlike here we are perfect uwu)
Just caught a 3-day ban for trolling their subreddit. Funny thing is I wasn't trolling. I just pointed out that "scratch a leftist and a fascist bleeds" is a terrible response. Guy tried to clap back and I just kept pointing out how shit his responses were lol, this is apparently too much for them. You don't even need to scratch these people, you can just give them a gentle poke.