How the fuck is the "anti-electoralist left" supposed to accomplish anything when they neither posses state power and is constantly crushed by the state power that it does not posses? The mfing Democrats put all their power into blocking and shooting leftists, then wonder why the left isn't getting anything done.
(paraphrasing) the far left will say to firebomb a Walmart but not actually do it
We burnt down a motherfucking police station
A major climate bill
If it does nothing to change the trajectory of climate change than how is it major?
(Paraphasing) What have the anti-electoralist left done in comparison to the democrats?
Why the fuck are you comparing the least powerful people in the country to some of the most powerful? Are you even a leftist, Contra?
Not to mention the absolute stupidity of saying the anti-electoralist left is ineffective, when I'm pretty sure both Marx and Lenin both pointed out the pointlessness of bourgeoisie elections (maybe theory nerds can correct me if I'm wrong?)
I haven't watched Contrapoints for a loooong time, but she was always my least favourite Breadtuber. She had this sort of "Trans people should try to pass if we want to be accepted" video if I recall correctly and that's when I noped the fuck away from her videos.
Skull boy is okay, the rest of breadtube can suck my enby ass. Half of them give me fed vibes anyway.
The weekend, sick leave, maternity leave, OSHA, no child labour, civil rights, holidays, etc. all came by as a result of strikes and other direct action
There's a concept in the philosophy of climate change called "intervention responsibility." Basically, it just involves the recognition that "x is responsible for y" is only intelligible if x has the power to intervene in a way that prevents or changes y. The upshot of this is that different kinds of agents have different responsibilities with respect to big, complicated problems in light of the power (institutional and otherwise) that they have: I have a certain set of things that I can intervene on as a relatively wealthy white guy in the Imperial Core, giving me a different set of responsibilities than a subsistence farmer in the global South. Neither of us has anything close to the kind of intervention responsibility that, say, the US President or the Chevron Corporation has though, because those sorts of agents have access to causal levers that neither I nor the subsistence farmer could possibly get near, let alone pull.
Asking "what has the disempowered, disenfranchised left done that's more effective than the wealthiest empire in the history of the world" is a category error on par with asking what the color blue has done to make itself larger than the color orange. It's nonsensical, because you're comparing totally different kinds of things with access to totally different sorts of influence, and thus totally different responsibilities.
Anything on the level of influence as a major climate bill?
Well, I can't say I've ever signed a bill that makes oil and gas drilling on public lands a legal requirement for investing in renewable energy, and I also haven't approved more drilling permits on federal land than Trump, but I can say , unfortunately I'm just one person and it's not like I have a platform with 600,000 followers to share my thoughts on it or anything.
Elections can stop fascists. Problem is you have to put people who really oppose fascism into power instead of people whose ideology is to collaborate with fascism and refuse to use any power given to them against fascism. How many times are you gonna be slapped by democrat party actions before you realise they are perfectly fine with fascism in power
It's really easy to caricature the anti-direct action liberals as real life misanthropes whose politics is "democracy will be destroyed" and then not safeguarding that democracy. It would help to dispel that myth if they were more vocal about what specifically their methods have achieved.
It's like that time Ceaser was crying because Alexander the Great did so much when he was the same age. He refuses to acknowledge that Alexander inherited an army.
Yeah, if I had the reach and money of the democrats, I'd probably do a whole lot more just by virtue of not spending it on golf courses, mansions, and corrupt military expenditures. And you know what else? Labor would probably have a lot more money, good will, and reach if the US didn't go fucking ape shit, kill a bunch of people, and threaten to blow up the world as we knew it from the second WW2 ended until the dissolution of the USSR. All the while bombing the fuck out of miners, infiltrating any leftist groups that existed, and assassinating leaders of black movements. Domestic and international labor has to build its base out of rubble so fine you'd mistake it for sand. Democrats inherited the richest nation ever known and a worldwide military industrial complex and can't feed children lunch.
Remember If you don't tell her about the illegal and cool things you do they don't count. You have to dox yourself and list all the Walmarts you've firebombed or contra won't take you seriously
Just... good luck, Contra. If this is the ship you wanna go down on, okay. Her support or non support is totally insignificant, thanks for the videos I guess. She already knows what must be done, we all do, we're all just removeds and friends waiting for the revolution (like the book, obviously would be caught in the slur filter, yes it has the f slur this one).
This whole scheme will fail, is failing, the coming insurrection/final intifada will demand communization in order to succeed. All we can do now is our best to set those future revolutionaries up for success - at least in my view. So take care of the people around you, make some alternative institutions
Natalie Wynn: "You have no power to do anything and its all your fault. Its not the responsibility of the Democratic party to stop anything bad from happening or to do anything good. Vote for Joe to make the world a better place!"
Let the workers take over the means of production and demolish the capitalist state and let's see then what the achievements will be instead of expecting some average Joe in a protest to have the same world affecting power as the not so average Joe
If Joe Biden is where the electoral ‘left’ has led us that is a lost cause. By voting you’re showing that the status quo is acceptable, and it sure as hell is not.
You’re not going to be able to push Biden left when he already has your vote unconditionally. This line of that you have to vote for the centre right candidate this specific election as it is the most important and pivotal one is something that gets deployed every single election. I’ve even seen it with the fucking UK election as it is really important to make sure that the Lib Dems are in opposition instead of the tories for some fucking reason.
Hey we did the legislative equivalent of "we hear you. We see you." 1/10th of what's needed. No it doesn't even begin to keep up with the damage of climate enhanced storms. No we won"t be doing anything further for the next 20 years with reguards to climate change and infrastructure. No they aren't doing anything of consequence but you don't have power and we do so shut up and
"They didn't even do the bare minimum why aren't you coddling them?"
The democratic response to climate change is like if your house is on fire and they sauntered up and pissed in your mailbox as a flame deterrent. Scold me all you want for being insufficiently enthused at the performance.
wouldn't be surprised if she was straight up getting paid to do this shit but it could just as easily be her class position lib brainworms at the wheel
What did that climate bill she's talking about actually do? When it comes to the US and climate, all I'm aware of is they propagandise against buying Chinese solar panels, propagandose against EVs and hinder the development of support infrastructure for them, and refuse to ratify international agreements.
As someone terrified of the prospect of Trump returning to power, yet even more terrified of having to do anything about it — I think you’re all LARPers.
For better or worse, the vast majority of Americans are lazy amoral ignoramuses who worship wealth, fashion, and power. These are their politics. This is their world. What choice do you have except to vote in their elections? Unless you have another pandemic up your sleeve to thin their ranks, idk what choice you think you have except surrender, violence, and/or voting.